Too much Straight Porn
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How is it possible that a man who identifies as "gay," admits to be turned on by straight porn, not consider himself at least bi sexual? By the way, it's a question not an attack. I just really want to understand this because I think the subject is somewhat fascinating.
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well, the actual world aint that black and white. by your definition i should be called bisexual cause i used to fuck women exclusively. to me the fact that i havent had any pussy in over a decade (nor am i likely to have some anytime soon) clearly tells me im gay as a whistle. even though i often get off to bisexual porn, women/shemales fucking men and other strictly speaking non-gay porn categories (although, to your credit straight stuff mostly just gets me hard, getting off on it aint something that practice).
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well, the actual world aint that black and white. by your definition i should be called bisexual cause i used to fuck women exclusively. to me the fact that i havent had any pussy in over a decade (nor am i likely to have some anytime soon) clearly tells me im gay as a whistle. even though i often get off to bisexual porn, women/shemales fucking men and other strictly speaking non-gay porn categories (although, to your credit straight stuff mostly just gets me hard, getting off on it aint something that practice).
In the scenario you've just explained, I wouldn't view you in the same category. Some people are late bloomers. Some guys may not actually know that they're gay until much later on in life. If you've had heterosexual sex, I suppose that, that arousal one get of seeing straight porn doesn't really go away. I'm talking about men that are "emphatically gay." For many of us who have known practically shortly after our birth, I don't understand the attraction, or openness to both gay and heterosexuality, without having some level of bisexuality. I think it's more than just, when people simply say "we are all fluid." 'Cause let me tell you, I've always been gay, and there's nothing fluid about me.
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Go to your profile > then Profile Settings:
This doesn't work in Browse mode – I'm pretty sure you see everything there.
And for the record, I also think there's too much straight porn here. In fact, I disagreed with the decision to allow straight porn at all (is there just not enough straight porn on the internet?)
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In the scenario you've just explained, I wouldn't view you in the same category. Some people are late bloomers. Some guys may not actually know that they're gay until much later on in life. If you've had heterosexual sex, I suppose that, that arousal one get of seeing straight porn doesn't really go away. I'm talking about men that are "emphatically gay." For many of us who have known practically shortly after our birth, I don't understand the attraction, or openness to both gay and heterosexuality, without having some level of bisexuality. I think it's more than just, when people simply say "we are all fluid." 'Cause let me tell you, I've always been gay, and there's nothing fluid about me.
heh, i clearly didnt get my point across. let me rephrase: i think your previous question contains a fallacy. getting off to something does not necessarily have anything to do with being gay or straight. you may be gay and a lot of other things at the same time. and you may get off to a lot of different stimuli, most of which may have nothing to do with an actual person, let alone a specific gender. e.g. getting off to rolling balls (granted, a rather extreme example) conveys nothing about your actual sexual preferences, doesnt it?
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This doesn't work in Browse mode – I'm pretty sure you see everything there.
yeah, it does, i just tested it.
And for the record, I also think there's too much straight porn here. In fact, I disagreed with the decision to allow straight porn at all (is there just not enough straight porn on the internet?)
and what specifically is the harm of having it here?
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Remember that not all the categories are for everyone.
There are many different themes for as many different tastes.
You might not agree with it but you shouldn't make others not to be able to view it.
Example, I am a big guy but I do not like watching bears or chubs so I don't watch it. It's that simple.Why do we need to get so uptight about choices that others make?
The world would be much happier if everyone stopped worrying about the other people and started worrying about themselves and their own actions.
Just my point of view.
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In the scenario you've just explained, I wouldn't view you in the same category. Some people are late bloomers. Some guys may not actually know that they're gay until much later on in life. If you've had heterosexual sex, I suppose that, that arousal one get of seeing straight porn doesn't really go away. I'm talking about men that are "emphatically gay." For many of us who have known practically shortly after our birth, I don't understand the attraction, or openness to both gay and heterosexuality, without having some level of bisexuality. I think it's more than just, when people simply say "we are all fluid." 'Cause let me tell you, I've always been gay, and there's nothing fluid about me.
heh, i clearly didnt get my point across. let me rephrase: i think your previous question contains a fallacy. getting off to something does not necessarily have anything to do with being gay or straight. you may be gay and a lot of other things at the same time. and you may get off to a lot of different stimuli, most of which may have nothing to do with an actual person, let alone a specific gender. e.g. getting off to rolling balls (granted, a rather extreme example) conveys nothing about your actual sexual preferences, doesnt it?
This is interesting.. I guess I have to try to do some more reading… I understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, I can't shake the idea there is some element of fear OR not being fully comfortable with sexuality. Maybe it's because of the community I grew up in. You see, in the 80's in my gay community, a LOT of young men in that era, would call themselves bi-sexual, as to mean "it's not as bad as being gay." So, as I got older, I've always felt that when people use words like "fluidity," or "I don't like to identify myself as anything," is kind of a cop out. You have to identify with something.. It's like when Prince tried to call himself that symbol. Although I respected him for doing that, but at the same time, it doesn't work! LOLOLOL
Now I say this NOT to give the impression that I think people should "label themselves," but a the same time, people should be able to accurately be able to identify you, or relate something tangible. -
heh, thats exactly the point i was trying to get across. when you asked why would anyone call themselves gay while watching straight porn, you were the one that was uncomfortable with the idea, dont you think? the other guy had no problem with calling himself gay. or in my case i dont have any problem calling myself gay (and theres nothing fluid about that). and watching straight porn…
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No, I wasn't uncomfortable. I was just trying to understand. It feels weird because, it's like I'm a straight person trying to understand a gay person. This goes to show you that we're not having enough conversations about sexuality in general.
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well, i know im going off on a tangent here, but look at what pc arseholes are doing with america and the world in general. fucking 'safe zones'?! is it any wonder people havent got a friggin clue about anything let alone something as comparably complex as sexuality.
and speaking of understanding. why cant you take it as an axiom? he is gay coz he says he is (he should know himself better than anybody). -
well, i know im going off on a tangent here, but look at what pc arseholes are doing with america and the world in general. fucking 'safe zones'?! is it any wonder people havent got a friggin clue about anything let alone something as comparably complex as sexuality.
and speaking of understanding. why cant you take it as an axiom? he is gay coz he says he is (he should know himself better than anybody).Very true what you said about PC. That's the one thing I fully agree that it is almost solely responsible for our society not being able to be honest, not because we don't want to, but because in many cases we can't because of PC. Now to answer your other question, I think we take it for granted the power of words, and their definition. As humans, it's very difficult when someone declares themselves as one thing, it is only human that someone would become perplex when someone does something other than the definition of the word they proclaim. Now, I do understand that the meaning of words do sometimes change with each generation. However, I think we can say the word gay has always been pretty consistent and straight forward (pardon the pun LOLOL).
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heh, arent people defined by actions? having sex in a cemetery with a living person (or oneself for that matter), doesnt necessarily make someone a necrophiliac. so why would watching straight porn make someone not gay?
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This doesn't work in Browse mode – I'm pretty sure you see everything there.
yeah, it does, i just tested it.
And for the record, I also think there's too much straight porn here. In fact, I disagreed with the decision to allow straight porn at all (is there just not enough straight porn on the internet?)
and what specifically is the harm of having it here?
I still see things in Browse mode that aren't listed in Search mode. A staff member explained about a year ago that that's because Browse mode shows everything. Maybe a staff member can clear it up again.
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heh, arent people defined by actions? having sex in a cemetery with a living person (or oneself for that matter), doesnt necessarily make someone a necrophiliac. so why would watching straight porn make someone not gay?
The difference is, if you were having sex in a cemetery, I don't think the average person would automatically think you were a necrophiliac (not to mention the fact I think that's illegal LOLOLOLOLOL). Oh boy, you really went out there. You're too funny…..
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Love seeing straight guys go at it.
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The difference is, if you were having sex in a cemetery, I don't think the average person would automatically think you were a necrophiliac (not to mention the fact I think that's illegal LOLOLOLOLOL). Oh boy, you really went out there. You're too funny…..
i try.
anyhow, lets try another angle. im sure youd agree there are myriad ways to make you aroused and/or ejaculate that have nothing to do with any actual male and/or are effectuated by a female. complete/partial sensory deprivation, automation, pharmacology, post-apocalyptic world re-population, take your pick (regardless of whether youd participate wi[ll/tt]ingly or not). that alone would tell absolutely nothing of your sexual preference, let alone change it in any meaningful way.
coming back to my previous point, if we paraphrase descartes famous quote, the fact that someone says/feels/knows that theyre gay should be sufficient. there is no need for any external validation (thats a truism if you will). the fact that someone else goes looking for one says more about this other person than it does about the first one (well, anything else really)…
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and what specifically is the harm of having it here?
I still see things in Browse mode that aren't listed in Search mode. A staff member explained about a year ago that that's because Browse mode shows everything. Maybe a staff member can clear it up again.
you didnt answer the question, though, did you?
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you didnt answer the question, though, did you?
I never said there was any "harm" from having straight porn on the site. I said I disagreed with the decision to allow it. I didn't see any point (and on a site called gaytorrent, of all places).
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This is a gay site. Not LGTB (Lesbian, transexual and bisexuals), only GAY. So, there isnt any reason for straight porn, in my oppinion.
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