Too much Straight Porn

[smbsmbsmb123]

@viscous:

This doesn't work in Browse mode – I'm pretty sure you see everything there.

yeah, it does, i just tested it.

@viscous:

And for the record, I also think there's too much straight porn here. In fact, I disagreed with the decision to allow straight porn at all (is there just not enough straight porn on the internet?)

and what specifically is the harm of having it here?

[obras62]

Remember that not all the categories are for everyone.
There are many different themes for as many different tastes.
You might not agree with it but you shouldn't make others not to be able to view it.
Example, I am a big guy but I do not like watching bears or chubs so I don't watch it. It's that simple.

Why do we need to get so uptight about choices that others make?

The world would be much happier if everyone stopped worrying about the other people and started worrying about themselves and their own actions.

Just my point of view.

[AnythingOld]

@smbsmbsmb123:

@AnythingOld:

In the scenario you've just explained, I wouldn't view you in the same category. Some people are late bloomers. Some guys may not actually know that they're gay until much later on in life. If you've had heterosexual sex, I suppose that, that arousal one get of seeing straight porn doesn't really go away. I'm talking about men that are "emphatically gay." For many of us who have known practically shortly after our birth, I don't understand the attraction, or openness to both gay and heterosexuality, without having some level of bisexuality. I think it's more than just, when people simply say "we are all fluid." 'Cause let me tell you, I've always been gay, and there's nothing fluid about me.

heh, i clearly didnt get my point across. let me rephrase: i think your previous question contains a fallacy. getting off to something does not necessarily have anything to do with being gay or straight. you may be gay and a lot of other things at the same time. and you may get off to a lot of different stimuli, most of which may have nothing to do with an actual person, let alone a specific gender. e.g. getting off to rolling balls (granted, a rather extreme example) conveys nothing about your actual sexual preferences, doesnt it?

This is interesting.. I guess I have to try to do some more reading… I understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, I can't shake the idea there is some element of fear OR not being fully comfortable with sexuality. Maybe it's because of the community I grew up in. You see, in the 80's in my gay community, a LOT of young men in that era, would call themselves bi-sexual, as to mean "it's not as bad as being gay." So, as I got older, I've always felt that when people use words like "fluidity," or "I don't like to identify myself as anything," is kind of a cop out. You have to identify with something.. It's like when Prince tried to call himself that symbol. Although I respected him for doing that, but at the same time, it doesn't work! LOLOLOL   Now I say this NOT to give the impression that I think people should "label themselves," but a the same time, people should be able to accurately be able to identify you, or relate something tangible.

[smbsmbsmb123]

heh, thats exactly the point i was trying to get across. when you asked why would anyone call themselves gay while watching straight porn, you were the one that was uncomfortable with the idea, dont you think? the other guy had no problem with calling himself gay. or in my case i dont have any problem calling myself gay (and theres nothing fluid about that). and watching straight porn…

[AnythingOld]

No, I wasn't uncomfortable. I was just trying to understand. It feels weird because, it's like I'm a straight person trying to understand a gay person. This goes to show you that we're not having enough conversations about sexuality in general.

[smbsmbsmb123]

well, i know im going off on a tangent here, but look at what pc arseholes are doing with america and the world in general. fucking 'safe zones'?! is it any wonder people havent got a friggin clue about anything let alone something as comparably complex as sexuality.
and speaking of understanding. why cant you take it as an axiom? he is gay coz he says he is (he should know himself better than anybody).

[AnythingOld]

@smbsmbsmb123:

well, i know im going off on a tangent here, but look at what pc arseholes are doing with america and the world in general. fucking 'safe zones'?! is it any wonder people havent got a friggin clue about anything let alone something as comparably complex as sexuality.
and speaking of understanding. why cant you take it as an axiom? he is gay coz he says he is (he should know himself better than anybody).

Very true what you said about PC. That's the one thing I fully agree that it is almost solely responsible for our society not being able to be honest, not because we don't want to, but because in many cases we can't because of PC.  Now to answer your other question, I think we take it for granted the power of words, and their definition. As humans, it's very difficult when someone declares themselves as one thing, it is only human that someone would become perplex when someone does something other than the definition of the word they proclaim. Now, I do understand that the meaning of words do sometimes change with each generation. However, I think we can say the word gay has always been pretty consistent and straight forward (pardon the pun LOLOL).

[smbsmbsmb123]

heh, arent people defined by actions? having sex in a cemetery with a living person (or oneself for that matter), doesnt necessarily make someone a necrophiliac. so why would watching straight porn make someone not gay?

[viscous]

@smbsmbsmb123:

@viscous:

This doesn't work in Browse mode – I'm pretty sure you see everything there.

yeah, it does, i just tested it.

@viscous:

And for the record, I also think there's too much straight porn here. In fact, I disagreed with the decision to allow straight porn at all (is there just not enough straight porn on the internet?)

and what specifically is the harm of having it here?

I still see things in Browse mode that aren't listed in Search mode. A staff member explained about a year ago that that's because Browse mode shows everything. Maybe a staff member can clear it up again.

[AnythingOld]

@smbsmbsmb123:

heh, arent people defined by actions? having sex in a cemetery with a living person (or oneself for that matter), doesnt necessarily make someone a necrophiliac. so why would watching straight porn make someone not gay?

The difference is, if you were having sex in a cemetery, I don't think the average person would automatically think you were a necrophiliac (not to mention the fact I think that's illegal LOLOLOLOLOL). Oh boy, you really went out there.  You're too funny…..

[bbbaebb]

Love seeing straight guys go at it.

[smbsmbsmb123]

@AnythingOld:

The difference is, if you were having sex in a cemetery, I don't think the average person would automatically think you were a necrophiliac (not to mention the fact I think that's illegal LOLOLOLOLOL). Oh boy, you really went out there.   You're too funny…..

i try.
anyhow, lets try another angle. im sure youd agree there are myriad ways to make you aroused and/or ejaculate that have nothing to do with any actual male and/or are effectuated by a female. complete/partial sensory deprivation, automation, pharmacology, post-apocalyptic world re-population, take your pick (regardless of whether youd participate wi[ll/tt]ingly or not). that alone would tell absolutely nothing of your sexual preference, let alone change it in any meaningful way.
coming back to my previous point, if we paraphrase descartes famous quote, the fact that someone says/feels/knows that theyre gay should be sufficient. there is no need for any external validation (thats a truism if you will). the fact that someone else goes looking for one says more about this other person than it does about the first one (well, anything else really)…

[smbsmbsmb123]

@viscous:

@smbsmbsmb123:

and what specifically is the harm of having it here?

I still see things in Browse mode that aren't listed in Search mode. A staff member explained about a year ago that that's because Browse mode shows everything. Maybe a staff member can clear it up again.

you didnt answer the question, though, did you?

[viscous]

@smbsmbsmb123:

you didnt answer the question, though, did you?

I never said there was any "harm" from having straight porn on the site. I said I disagreed with the decision to allow it. I didn't see any point (and on a site called gaytorrent, of all places).

[amofutbol]

This is a gay site. Not LGTB (Lesbian, transexual and bisexuals), only GAY. So, there isnt any reason for straight porn, in my oppinion.

[junior]

It's very simple to avoid watching it if you don't want to see it.

[yababylol]

I'm bi, and I regularly frequent this site (it's my favorite for man-on-man action) and one other site that focuses mainly on "straight" porn. That other site doesn't have a lot of gay porn, but I can tell you that it shows up on the so-called "straight" site, there's a devoted category for it, and some of my favorite downloads ever have come from said straight site. I've also noticed that some of the biggest hetero horndogs active in that community have been intrigued on occasion by a hot piece of ass-fucking in terms of really feminine bottoms, and privately message me for more information.

One thing that's different about here and there, though … there's not a damn hetero there that complains about the gay stuff because it offends their eyes (that includes the ones that never so much as touch the minority of gay content on that site). It's weird, because that's the exact opposite of the way things are in mainstream society, but it's literally the other way around when it comes to primarily gay communities on the Internet. The guys on the straight sites that don't want to see gay stuff scroll past it and move on, and realize that everyone's taste in smut is different. The guys on the gay sites that don't want to see straight porn are the ones that pitch a bloody fit over it.

I have often jerked off to a man fucking a woman, while primarily focusing on the man. I've done it the other way 'round, too, but my main point is that there is gay value to straight porn. I had a 100% gay-identifying buddy tell me just the other day how he used to watch soft porn on cable late at night because he just found the male models in it so hot. Plenty of guys have a "straight bro" fetish, and completely get off to watching a hot guy fuck a woman.

If you don't get into that yourself, that's just fine, you don't have to apologize for it or explain yourself -- we're all different. It's a bad idea to go about scolding anyone else for not following in your footsteps, though. Get over your hangups and over yourself, is my advice. You do have the option to filter out what you don't like, but it's silly to believe that it's appropriate to BAN anything that isn't cock-on-cock because you personally don't approve of it.

I don't like scat and golden shower videos, or wrestling videos, or condom videos (like, that's my pet peeve, especially with anything produced after PrEP) ... but I sure as shit don't go around asking people to explain themselves for daring to like those things and being glad that they're here. I take what I like from the community, politely and quietly avoid what I don't like, give back as much as I can, and trust everyone else to do the same. I don't like the idea of being asked to "explain" liking what I like, though.

Enough with the pureblood homosexual nativism vibe ... it's stupid. It was getting old to me even in the early 2000s when I was just blossoming as a young man and having fellow cocksuckers look at me in disgust when I admitted to them that I knew what vagina tastes like.

Fast forward 10 years, in this day and age .... it almost seems like a queer version of Donald Trump promising to build a wall to keep the filthy heteros out. Can we just get over the tribalism?

Just don't click on links you're not interested in, and move on. You don't need to "ban" anyone for inconveniencing you by daring to force you to spend 0.2 seconds scrolling past their upload that you don't like.

It's as simple as that.

[pornofan]

A hot str8 man fucking his balls off is an amazing demonstration of what the male animal is capable of. It is educational in terms of what m/f sex actually consists of. Apart from porn with dudes with women, this site and any other gay site features a lot of gay-for-pay, alleged straits having sex with men or solo sex while they watch a strait video, knowing that the camera is watching.

There are sites were men known around here for m/m sex get to bang women. There certainly is a lot of fuss or even fetish about strait men being picked up off the street or lured onto a bus, putting a glory hole to good use, or putting on a show for someone they think is female. Personally, I don't see the point of getting some guy to discharge his boner in an erotic frenzy while he is purposefully deluded into thinking the mouth taking his load belongs to a babe.

What is this snickering about? Straits are so stupid? Or perhaps, sometimes, there is a sense of getting in on some private authentic balling where we see the lust-driven skills and experience of a fine male specimen, someone who a gay man might only dream of. Maybe when you see someone on the street freeballing, or the gentle convex curve of a man naturally bulging, even without a conspicuous penile display, you are more able to imagine what he's packing and what he does with it.

Swimmers, divers, gymnasts, wrestlers, and many other kinds of jocks present their sexual construction in a way that may be admirably alluring, though nearly none are actually either gay or "curious." Young men newly pubescent with their first growth of man flesh and body hair, pits and pubes, can be very exciting to admire as physical specimens as well as to enjoy the power and randy innocence to be seen as they flaunt or otherwise (hidden cam anyone?) some of their earliest orgasms at the start of what will likely be a long life of spreading sperm for their own pleasure and the enjoyment of others.

While there have always been military men who cleave to other men, back at least as far as Sparta and "The 300," there is a whole industry built around buff young enlisted men at the height of their sexual force and physical condition. If that's a turn-on, how much does it actually matter that they are watching (as we can often tell from the audio track) women in ecstasy.

Unless you are only turned on by gay men, it might be useful to know what those str8s normally do, normally like, and may well be thinking about as their needs are being met by a man. Such knowledge may help produce the experience– often seen in hired str8s and impecunious students, skaters, surfers, and active duty military-- of someone who has a mindblowing orgasm from a blowjob that completely transcends whatever they have experienced from women, no matter how many they have had.

Not suggesting women cannot suck successfully or that all male cocksuckers have great skills. And while it seems as though men prefer to have their cocksucker swallow, lots of gay men go to all that work and then spit it out. (How rude.) Obviously, there are no hard and fast rules for these things, but there definitely are people who like to see str8 hunks in the throes of ecstasy. If that is from a woman, it is educational for those offering themselves as a proxy. If the orgasm is from a man, then that offers its own sense of satisfaction, the sense of providing potential new levels of quality experience.

Some people seem to find pussy offensive, but at least an equal number find men so overwhelmingly alluring and attractive and desirable that studs in their prime are intensely exciting, to the point where the angle of entry, the rhythm of swoop and thrust, is all that really matters.

When people watch sex going on, are they thinking "I could be doing that" or "He could be doing that to me?" Then maybe there is a corollary that says, "that stud has no idea what he's missing because I could do so much better."

Everyone will find their own way to release their seed. NOW there is man-on-man action, but within the lifetime of many folks here, there was only covert spying on underwear sections of sales catalogues or hetero porn, if you could find any over (under?) the counter that actually showed a man rather than just an array of giant boobs. Some of us are grateful we can see a hard dick at all, much less one that is shooting its load. Who is making the man's cum explosion happen is less important, at least to some of us.

... Just discovered a new video with Richard Sutherland fucking some chick. The aggressive shock of hair above his cute and manly face, his inked muscles, big cock, and the way he enjoys playing with his nipples while he enjoys the benefits of being young, hung, handsome, horny, and marketable strikes me as Essence of Studlyness. Proof positive that hetero porn has a definite place on this site.

[Fabiomittens]

@Popper:

They will focus on the male models in straight porn…

I use to think that too, but there are some straight porno companies that focus solely on the men. some gay porn companies even make them with the gay porn stars in them. The women are very quiet and in some cases their faces are  blurred out or cut out completely, then you get to see this really sexy "straight" guy. So I do get it, but there is s difference between that and just rgular straight porn. That I don't like seeing, and there is a lot.

[Fabiomittens]

@AnythingOld:

How is it possible that a man who identifies as "gay," admits to be turned on by straight porn, not consider himself at least bi sexual? By the way, it's a question not an attack. I just really want to understand this because I think the subject is somewhat fascinating.

I get it. Sometimes I do like straight porn, I like to watch it. Just watch. but in real life, im not going near a vagina!! I hate them, they are weird! I also like watching water sports, but in real life, I know i'd hate it being anywhere near it! I cant imagine the smell!