Asking For Seed Bonus Gifts

[Popper]

@rR:

@mods/admins
why I cant receive seed bonus gifts?
is it only for the original uploader?
what if I re-seed something which I didn't upload originally?

~rR

Yes, it is only for the original uploader and since there is no torrent you uploaded originally alive, you can't get the seed bonus point gifts …

In addition, having set strong privacy level, means to give gifts to someone one can not see it's name and situation, supposedly a Power User (having good ratio), moderator or administrator ...

It is the current design (limitation?) of this new feature making "new" torrent posting attractive

[cumeaternc]

Like all the mods and admins my privacy level is set to strong but I have recieved seed bonus points as other uploading mods.
The idea behind the seed bonus is to reward uploaders for good uploads.
Finally, if a user post a comment in this forum I believe his stats are listed under his avatar.  That way you can tell if they really need help from seed bonus points or not.

[Popper]

Yep.

But you can't see which torrents a person with strong privacy level has uploaded to give a seed bonus gift to one of them, in case one wants to help. It's why the chance is missed to get a seed gift 

Haven't upload anything present, even without a protected Profile a member could not get a seed bonus point gift.

[garjr71]

@Uwe:

Yes, it is only for the original uploader and since there is no torrent you uploaded originally alive, you can't get the seed bonus point gifts …

thats bad, its not good for those who are good mirrors, and re-seed
i suggest that GT.ru should use this feature as encouragment for re-seeding old/dead stuff
@Uwe:

In addition, having set strong privacy level, means to give gifts to someone one can not see it's name and situation, supposedly a Power User (having good ratio), moderator or administrator …

I did not get this point ! Does this mean only Power Users, mods and admins can give seed bonus gifts??
what about those who have loads of extra seed bonus but arent PU/mod/admin ??
are they not allowed to give away seed bonus?
if not, then why the descrimination ?
/side rant
wow! that sounds so politically correct, "descrimination"?!! LMAO =))
i wonder where i picked up that word.. ohh wait, I am gay!!! LOLz!!!
/end rant

Update- just read the next page comments
i am still puzzled, privacy settings and what not?? !! ???

@Uwe:

It is the current design (limitation?) of this new feature making "new" torrent posting attractive

hmmm, well maybe yes, I have Daddy's Teenage Turn On, which I was going to upload on GT.ru
but got tooooooooo lazy (and work load too)
maybe i'll do it this weekend
/side rant
yeah yeah, its so easy to upload a torrent and all, i know
but tell that to someone who didnt do it .. at all !
also i am sceptical about the hoops and holes i use to access/download from GT.ru
will i be able to seed/upload a torrent successfully?
dunno, i'll have to try
sometimes you just gotta do it !
and leave the rest to … errrmm.. admins?? LOLz!!
/end rant

~rR

[Popper]

I did not get this point ! Does this mean only Power Users, mods and admins can give seed bonus gifts??

No anyone can give seed bonus points as gift.

This was related to the possibility to set the Profile privacy level to strong. Reserved to Power User, Moderators and Administrators and …?

[Gr1zz]

@TwjT3NEc:

I think he meant, he's not giving because he can't see your stats.
Which is as far as I'm concerned, as it says in the settings Privacy level.

That's close.  It's not so much the stats, as the uploaded torrents, since that's where one can give seed bonus.

If I can't easily find out which torrents I need to go to to give a seed bonus, I'm not going to do it.  Chances are good that if you are uploading something I like, you are also downloading and/or seeding other things I'd like.  I can't reward you for it if I don't know about it though.

Let's say that I like bears with lots of foreskin. (Those who know me know just how much of a stretch that is. )  And you upload something called "Bear Skins Rug #4", that happens to be just what I'm looking for.  If your privacy settings let others see you are also seeding #1, 2, and 5, and have downloaded #3.  You can bet a policeman's donuts that I'm going to give you bonus, not just for the one you uploaded, but for leading me to the other ones as well.  Of course, the only way I can give it to you is through your upload of #4, but what do you care, as long as you get it.

@cumeaternc:

Like all the mods and admins my privacy level is set to strong

I didn't notice this before, but it does make it tough for mods and admins to lead me to stuff I'd enjoy.  I guess that's to make it hard for people to figure out what you like, so they can get special privileges for uploading your favourite type of material.  Or is there some other good reason I'm missing for running with strong privacy settings?

[garjr71]

why make privacy levels so strong that others can not see/know what you have downloaded?
how does it matter?
where do you control these privacy settings? can I (normal user) change it?

i know this is bit off topic… sorry

~rR

[cumeaternc]

@rR:

why make privacy levels so strong that others can not see/know what you have downloaded?
how does it matter?
where do you control these privacy settings? can I (normal user) change it?

i know this is bit off topic… sorry

~rR

Sorry but a normal user cannot change their privacy setting. Only Power Users and above can.  Why set privacy so high you ask.  Believe it or not but some uploaders don't want recognition, they just enjoy uploading good content.  Some uploaders don't want to be bothered by endless requests for similar content. Some users are just plain paranoid.  If a user needs seed bonus points for help, chances are they are not a power user and you can see their torrents with a few simple clicks.

[Gr1zz]

@rR:

why make privacy levels so strong that others can not see/know what you have downloaded?
how does it matter?
where do you control these privacy settings? can I (normal user) change it?

i know this is bit off topic… sorry

~rR

Something odd is happening here.  When I try and see what his levels are set for, I get this:

garjr71's security settings doesn't allow to show you the Profile!

Now, for the privacy settings, look at the top of your screen, right under the gaytor.rent banner.  You will see this:
 Home  Browse  Search  Upload  Profile  Chat  Forum

Click on Profile, and you will see another screen with lots of choices.  Down near the bottom, you will find:

Privacy level (For Powerusers and above)
Normal (Everything will be showed)
Low (Userprofile will not shown to other users)
Strong (no info will be made available, Profile, Username in peers, uploader name.)

And below, you can see what the requirements are for being a power user.

(sorry, I don't know how to inline images yet)

[Popper]

Dear Original Torrent Uploader,

Though we do not have (yet) a rule about asking and thanking for seed bonus points, I'd like to remind our dear members and here especially the so much loved original uploaders (torrent posters), that the torrents got a Description box and not a seed bonus points begging box.

As well general customs on forums on the web find ALL CAPITAL LETTERS writting impolite and as yelling, shouting or crying. Therefore it should be avoided, except to highlight a single word. I think we have a rule about this …

Therefore, please do not ask or thank for seed bonus points on the top of the description and/or in all capital letters.
Please place, if you really think to need to do, a thank you for seed bonus points at the very bottom of the description only.
You can as well use the comments to thank for received seed bonus points.

Thank you in advance.
Uwe

[Jakkob]

Full Disclosure: I have not uploaded any videos (yet) and currently my ratio is below .300, but I am seeding I promise!

I think if someone is going to upload a vid, then they should be entitled to a little graffiti on their pages, encouraging people to donate. I mean really, its not like real money, and if people like the persons stuff, sometimes you need to be reminded to 'tip', especially if you are a nub like me!

anywho, thats my two-cents. thanks for the great site!

:cheesy2:

[Popper]

Well …

Regular original torrent uploader should not need the seed bonus points for ratio keeping, however of course they merit them. They just should not beg for them as they were the poorest of the world, e.g. by putting:

SEED BONUS HIGHLY APPRECIATED. THANKS!

or worse seen in the first line of the torrent description, then visible in the list, too (instead of the start of the description of the upload content).

Actually original torrent uploader are rich by what they offer all of us  :hug: and need our love.

and as I said they can put it at the end of the description in not capital letters or a comment (which will reveal their share ratio and seed bonus account  >:D )

Uwe

[bluehue]

i love getting seeded fat bonuses from all kinds of random users one after another. after all, it's the acknowledgement that i presented something so special to fellow users that they seed me bonuses is what fulfills my innermost desires and keeps me coming back for more.  :hot2:

[reznor]

I did that in some of my first uploads,(wrote something like; seed bonus highly appreciated). Not because I needed it, but because I saw other uploaders doing it and I wanted a "piece of the cake" too.
I felt a bit embarrased doing it, almost as if I was poor and had to beg. :-[ That and the fact that my ratio is fine from uploading and seeding made me stop doing it.

Personally I seldom give seedbonus to those who ask for it, but I give to those uploads I really like, to show the uploader I apriciate his work and maybe (hopefully) encourage him to upload more of the same. :cheesy2:
And please don't take me wrong,I still appriciate seedbonus, but nowadays I actually appriciate a simple "Thank you" more. What is up with people not taking the extra 2 seconds to press the "thank you" button? I really don't get it…

Well thats my two cents, I'm sorry if this was a little OT, but I got carried away while writing. 

[trukr]

I noticed that while some users with high ratios use the ole "Seed bonus is highly appreciated" line all the time, they also gift nearly all their SBP away. That's OK in my book.

From what I've seen it looks like most people who mention SBP in their descriptions use their points appropriately, either because they could use them or because they like to spread the love or both.

I simply give out points based on whether or not I liked what I downloaded and ignore everything else (well, most of the time), or maybe just a click of the [Say Thank You!] button if it was so so or use the button at least as a gesture to say thanks for sharing. Some people wonder why not many people say thanks. A few might just be lazy, but I don't say thanks if it's total crap. Why thank people for crap? :laugh: In that case they should thank me for downloading their crap and helping their ratio and/or seeding their torrent.

[Bernd]

Most of the Seed Bonus Points I've collected are used to reward (or "buy") my requests being fulfilled.

I don't need them for my share ratio, because I upload myself torrents. I' don't ask for them, but I always like them as a sign of appreciation of my uploads.

[ganatu]

Recently it seems that every over post has a "seed bonus appreciated" tag.

It has become meaningless to me. I have reverted to my original practice of awarding unneeded SBP as a signal of my desire for more of the type of file uploaded. If the uploader doesn't need the points, then they can in turn gift them to another.
I am trying to make an impression that has more force than a "thankyou" I can freely generate at the press of a button. I want the uploader to know that I am giving them something that has actual value in this system. I have noticed that the "power uploaders" have amazing libraries and appear to get satisfaction from providing downloads that are highly prized by someone.

@cumeaternc:

Like all the mods and admins my privacy level is set to strong but I have recieved seed bonus points as other uploading mods.
The idea behind the seed bonus is to reward uploaders for good uploads.
Finally, if a user post a comment in this forum I believe his stats are listed under his avatar.  That way you can tell if they really need help from seed bonus points or not.

You can't get that information conveniently, if at all, from the torrent blurb

[beercan]

sigh i just spotted a upload with the description "give me some bonus" in the description (not the whole description).
i personally give seed bonus (i know i dun have a lot) to shows that i like based on what i can.
my normal gifts are usually 10% of what i have at the moment and it's to show my appreciation on the uploader for providing a file i like for whatever reason.

these descriptions irk me a lot due to it being out of place (descriptions should be on the file and not a place to solicit bonuses)
and make me pretty anal about giving bonus to the uploader … call it reverse psychology if you like 

I don't know about the the majority but i would prefer if such personal were places in the comments (i do read comments about the download).

apologies if i offend anyone ... had to get it off my chest. :sorry:

[Popper]

Basically the Staff agrees with you. See for example http://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=7208.msg34038#msg34038

Rather than creating another rule (we got already soooooo many), we tried by explaining and PM to regulate the way it is asked for seed bonus. I think that was rather success full, because it has calmed down.

[cumeaternc]

Here is another thread that discusses this and it has a poll to vote you mind.  If enough members are turned off by seed bonus beggars then we may have to set some guidelines on how they can be asked for.

http://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=8291.0