Straight guys in gay porn; are the really straight?

[hamptonbay]

Getting fucked by guys for money is one thing. One guy fucking another guy in the ass to the point of squirting cum all over him proves that he was sexually aroused. Regardless of what he thinks or says about his sexuality, it would be safe to say he is aroused by men's assholes.

We are all sexual. It is close minded for anyone to generalize to the point of stating they can never be aroused by a particular gender. Stating someone is gay is referring to their subculture identity and not so much referencing their inability to properly engage in intercourse with the opposite gender.

[unknown69]

No they are not. Gay for pay is rare especially in gay porn which claims that models are straight. The real question is: Why do you care? The point of porn is to see models perform sex acts that get you off. I don't give a shit whenever a guy performing in porn is a druggie, is vegeterian, listens to Justin Bieber, is an asshole to his friends,… so I couldn't possibly care less whenever they are gay or not.

[JediMan]

I don't know they are straight or gay or bisexual but some male porn star they do both gay porn & straight porn.
For example. Denis Reed who play both gay &  straight for past few years to present day and now he play straight porn more than gay porn.

[Valicore]

Yes, absolutely. The body is a tool, and sex is a form of manual labor. With viagra, they don't even need to enjoy what they're doing, especially if they're a bottom. No one would suggest that because a person is a professional manual laborer that digs trenches or does construction work is doing it because they love it, even though it's totally possible they do, and I feel that sex work is the same. They are using their body in return for money. It's only our modern stupid insistance on labels and making sex some sort of special category of physical activity that we have changed that thinking.

[teague182]

Who cares? Hot either way

[DilfLover1]

i find sexuality conveying the desire to pursue relationships w/ the sexes they are attracted to. i feel that a guy who fucks another man, could just fuck the guy, but have NO interest in pursuing any sort of relationship w/ that person.

[pornofan]

It surprises me that no one is saying they have had sex with str8s who got off and perhaps even repeated the experience, even though they are busy pursuing sex with women, often even lots of women.

Back before the love that dare not speak its name because the love that would not shut up, there was a time when most everyone you knew was strait, virgin or otherwise. If they had sex with a man "faut de mieux," that was just being horny and welcoming the convenience, not their real interest.

Perhaps it is hard for men today to believe that kids fooling with kids etc. does not mean lies and hypocrisy, but a man who is not afraid of who he is and what he wants can pretty much get off whenever circumstances allow. Good thing, too, because back when everyone lived in a closet or really was strait, the first and most important fact in getting laid did not involve a decision about the orientation of your lust object, but his attractiveness and availability.

Military men on leave from an all male environment of communal showers, communal sleeping in racks perhaps stacked three high, and toilets without separation all build up a head of… steam... for when they are allowed loose, and not all of them find welcoming females. Whether they are sailors home from a long voyage at sea or athletes breaking training when lured by a bimbo groupie, men are men with manly needs.

I've known some Navy sailors who have had dozens or even hundreds of women, sometimes whores at the rate of two or three a day, and had no doubts that getting a bj from a fag friend was going to ruin their reputation even if anyone ever found out about it. A rather bearish roofer slept with me, came in the morning, and then met with me later that day after a workout and shower to get ready for our sex date so he could give me another friendly load, and glad to do so. I liked seeing the photos of his kids that he carried in his wallet, offspring from three different women in as many different states.

Why anyone would think a hetero man would never ever get his rocks off with another dude is a mystery to me. And if it happens in real life, it sure as hell happens for cash. There are few uniformed military mingling in city streets these days, but when the draft was in effect, there were uniformed dudes everywhere, and they were all a target for men who liked that sort of thing. Made for some good times after sneaking into a strip club where they were too young to drink but not too young to be in jeopardy on the front lines when they got shipped out the next day. If nothing else, they had a place to stay for those last few nights before shipping out, and it was not as expensive as a hotel room, either.

None of which necessarily involves alcohol, btw, or other mental impairment.

I just don't understand why people are so committed to labels. A recent study or studies says women are almost entirely more bi- than not, whether they do anything about it or not. And sexuality is fluid, too. One successful female singer publicly fell for and partnered with another woman and then pissed off feminists everywhere when she fell in love with a man again, much to her surprise.

Shift happens. Sex happens. Be glad most men have never had much luck with blowjobs from women, and that they may be thrilled to have a chance to give an ass pounding to someone who can stand up to the unleashed animal fury of an unrestrained man who has finally found a place he can put the entire length of his scary third leg and enjoy benefits he's never known before.

Just as there was a time when there was no gay porn-- books, magazines, or cinema-- except for the very brave and very determined queer with money, we are now at a time when spurting dicks are easy to view, even outside of porn with women. Things change. Gloryholes are no longer a well-kept secret known only within the fraternity of men. Now masturbation jokes and pot jokes and casual nonjudgmental homosex jokes are mainstream.

Personally, I like to think that guilt, shame, and eternal damnation are less and less associated with any kind of voluntary sex acts and we can all really enjoy the function of the orgasm to heal our minds and bodies and, according to Wilhelm Reich, stifle the mass psychology of Fascism, at least for those proud to boast, "I'm a lover, not a fighter."

[patekcartier]

DAMN - what a great response!  (directly above)  I believe that most humans are very "middle: of the Kinsey scale by nature with a few outliers (totally straight or gay).. I am certainly gay although I have slept with many women.  I only top which is also rare in the gay world - a second "unique" trait that doesn't fit norms per say.  We are all fickle, complex and very sexually secretive..  MANY, MANY straight men have flirted with me throughout my life and I flirted back with them - only a sad few led to a sexual encounter however.  Had I been braver - who knows….but I also might have had teeth knocked out had I acted on the flirtation.  The realistic likelihood of every flirtation leading to actual "forbidden" gay sex is a rarity.  But YES - "straight" men often have gay sex.  Label them as you must - I care little what they should be defined as..  The reality is that many, many have lots of gay sexua; encounters during their lifetime.  It happens often without a paycheck; clearly it also happens with one in the G4P amateur porn era that we live in.

[gaypraha2]

" Yuck it's making my skin itch just thinking of it."
Great gay guys are still very intolerant and biphobic towards bi guys .. funny how most of them are very crazy about their right and demand respect but act like guys from the kukuxklan when it comes to bi guys….
anyway.. I supposed the question from the OP was ask to get bonus point and no answer or maybe he's a troll..
That would be like believing things like " czech hunter" are "real"... sexuality is not this or that. it's a graduation from "total gay " to "total straight" which 2 extremes dont exist and are representation of an archetype. "straight guys" sucking dicks arent straight but to the least bi.
Now of course like the biphobic guy said, he doesnt feel like a bi even if he did a girl as a teen: it's not because you had sex with a guy when you were a teen ( or a girl) that you are bi. But here the subject is different : it's about an entertainment product therefore you can't compare to real private sexual life experimentation you might have as a teen with a production involving money. Guys on porn doing other guys are either gay and pretend to be str8 or bisexual and that's it.

[sexypooface]

Most of the time, especially when from a studio, the "straight" models are either gay or bi. However, some homemade and actual voyeur videos do have straight men in them (probably). Even though I'd really like to, I don't buy that these men are "straight."

[xavrin]

Cliff is. Probably why he's in prison

[parinya001]

Sometime Real,  sometime gay or bi.  We watcher were lied.

[ginouy]

@ttl8me:

nice topic! I for one am really in the dark.. Coz I love watching BAIT BUDDIES MILITARY CLASSIFIED and BROKE STRAIGHT BOYS.  :cheers:

i agree for u

[pornofan]

Bait Buddies is one of those fantasy sites where the "strait" victim is probably performing for pay. Same with Unglory Hole. In both cases, prominent gay porn stars have been presented as innocent and naive straits being tricked into something they have definitely done before and on camera.

Hatrick: Also, my straight friend (straight?) who likes girls (obviously from his Tinder and Badoo behavior) said that if I was super rich, he would absolutely want to date me.

If he's not just being kind and flattering to a friend but actually means he could and would get off with you for pay, call him on it: Really? You could get off with a guy? Would you have to be drunk first or just bribed for a secret session? Wouldn't you be afraid that such a thing would fuck up our relationship? Or is money the only thing holding you back?

Maybe he does not actually know you are v interested and is simply making conversation or saying something functionally equivalent to a man telling a woman, "Hey, I'm definitely only into big/small tits, but otherwise I'd definitely hook up with you." Or, "You know I'm not into men, but you're definitely one fine sex fantasy for those who are."

If he's serious, take him up on it. Offer to hire him for an evening, go on a date, pick him up in a bar when the babes have him horny and frustrated at last call. Lots of fantasies can be played out. Maybe it would be an adventure he'd like, an opportunity to find out whether he actually could stud service a dude, whether men give better bj's than women (some do, some don't– surprise!). Maybe he can't get a female to offer her ass to him and he's always wanted to explore that.

If it's not a matter of religion or something, a mouth is a mouth and an ass is an ass, if he just wants someone to take his cock past the bursting point. Or does he mean that for the right pay he could suck cock or take an ass pounding? If your relationship as friends would not be jeopardized (and there are no guarantees ahead of time) and You would not feel abused or degraded.

I was once told by a str8 friend that if he ever were to do something with a dude, I'm not his type. That was disappointing because then it meant it was not a matter of his hangups or prejudices, but that everything else being equal (which it was not), he just was not that into me. Standard reason why anyone gets turned down by someone they would choose but who does not want to choose them. Bummer.

That is not, however, what you are reporting. If he's suggesting he'd be open to an offer, start saving your money.

[pornofan]

ginouy: Pls see my comment a few minutes ago.

Just wanted to add that I do love the military videos from Bobby and others who get real enlisted, active duty military men to have on-cam sex for pay. Most of them are very obviously str8. Some just need/want the money, perhaps like the idea of being so hot that fags want them and will pay to watch them. Some are being led to believe there will be pussy in their future.

But what really turns me on is that these men are sufficiently horny they can be sweet-talked, cajoled, and bribed into getting off because they are horny and it is an easy orgasm not involving their own hand. Lots of repeat visits, too, and Bobby, at least, recruits his maximally fit studs partly by word of mouth when someone who had a good time at his place lets a friend in on the secret after convincing him it is safe, fun, rewarding, and amazingly hot sex that they probably are not getting orally from females and not getting that easily.

Aside from being supplied with porn, booze, cigarettes, poppers, and toys for solo sessions or interactive contact to the point of ejaculation, even those who have gfs can enjoy the attention, the "egoboo" of having their cock worshipped, and the convenient cash.

These videos are pretty clearly WYSIWYG – What you see is what you get. The guys get a place to hang out and drink for free. Often you can hear partying in the background as a group of trained killers relaxes in another room, awaiting their turn to bust a nut. That's just hot all by itself, right? That these young men are laughing and socializing while waiting for their closeup and their (money) shot performance. They know what they are all there for and are obviously not uptight about it, not afraid they will be criticized rather than supported by others working on the same military base.

Not only are some of these dudes having the best sex of their lives and even coming back for more, there are often scenes with two buddies (or strangers), wank side by side while talking about the "bitches" they're watching on the screen, and circle jerks (no interaction) where horndogs are just being natural and spreading their wild oats together with other "real men" who have enough confidence that they are manly men that they're not afraid to surrender nonsense about self-doubts or fears of the opinion of others, and just freely indulge their carnal animal appetites with the assistance and support of others-- on camera!-- because that is what men do and what men have been bred for millenia to do as part of experiencing and enjoying the fertility for which evolutionary imperatives to glory in their reproductive games and activities has prepared them.

Add their youth and manly beauty and the casual way they reveal their most intimate toss-off grips and rhythms the sensuous environment of booze, porn, and the use of poppers and devices they may never have encountered down on the farm before they joined an all male society where they are systematically driven and polished into the best physical position of their lives, a situation where testosterone is at its peak and opportunity for release is at a minimum.

That puts them in a position to have their needs met by a skilled professional encouraging their uninhibited sensual indulgence in the glorious capacity of their bodies, and it can all be quite arousing, even granted the often shitty camerawork and incompetent lighting. Mostly, these men have absolutely no idea how superbly they are able to represent the glorious sexual capabilities they have only begun to enjoy a few years ago and may yet to have settled into fully as their right and privilege.

Bobby Garcia, of course, is not the only one who has found a way to make money pandering to the unlimited lusts of well built youths with severely limited outlets for their vital bodily fluids, but the easy and confident way in which so many are so willing to play gleefully when given a chance (and the right encouragement and circumstances) certainly satisfies those who sign up, to the point where sometimes one can see them move from nervous, uptite, insecure, and basically inexperienced, to wildly experimental participation that makes their lives better and happier and does the same for viewers playing along at home.

I find it encouraging that more and more dudes seem to find it acceptable to take it where they can get it, seemingly without guilt or shame. It's certainly exciting to get to see and hear their most private moments that it may be no man will ever get to observe again. And if they are loosened up enough to accept physical pleasure without hangups, so much the better for everyone.

This kind of de-heteronormalizing of acceptable behavior for someone with a hard cock is a good thing for society. And, yeah, a few of these men may take a more aggressively active role in exploring the chance to suck or bottom, but even when the presented fantasy is that we porn consumers are watching actual pickups, genuine seductions, legitimate first-time participation, spreading the meme is a good thing in general.

I mean, I'm a believer that porn is good for society, opens up our attitudes and widens the range of the possible. Right now in the US there is a television insurance advert where a somewhat brawny man puts on makeup and a costume and goes out as a pink fairy for what seems to be his daughter's party, where she is thrilled that Daddy is being so silly just for her and her friends, who all squeal with delight.

The art of the possible is expanding all the time. Are men actually having on-cam sex in public as a result of a random solicitation by strangers? Unlikely, but like the stunningly revelatory true stories in the Straight to Hell (Manhattan Journal of Cocksucking) magazines and books from Boyd MacDonald, they change and enlarge our world.

I think that's true even when the fantasy is fictional, and even when the cumshot is no more real than the blood spattered all over during the shower scene of Psycho. I do hate fake cumshots, but at least now the world allows cumshots to be represented routinely, which is as important in its way as magazines that show naked women in full, not with a staple getting in the way of those who want to look.

At least we've moved from fake cum being a significant advance over prudes and censors to the point where the real thing is expected. And where actual firemen, cops, soldiers, sailors, flyboys, and Marines are getting it on so that we can enjoy their private pleasure, too. Long ago, Sergeant Swann, a genuine Marine, fucked a lot of other actual Marines and helped lead the way to what we can take for granted now.

Also, it certainly did not hurt the move in this direction to have porn stars in cammies and other military costumes presenting fictional versions of what we now can see actually happening, but boy am I glad we can just find the real stuff of dreams to play along with and not just have to settle for pure fiction instead.

[7N7]

YES, most of them from the major producers. It's obvious.
And it's obvious they don't do anything with another guy for free.

Do you think those tops from MACHOFUCKER are really gay or they are doing it for money?
OK. Most of you rather believe the ugly ones might be straight but the handsome ones are definitely gay, and at nights you think you and the handsome ones will be boyfriends, it's typical. But no, most are straight too… BelAmi, Sean Cody, GayHoopla, Corbin Fisher stars ... they have girlfriends, wifes and kids.

I don't like to watch 2 gays having sex and getting paid for it as they already do it for free, if I had to choose a guy to pay him to have sex with another guy, of course I'd pay a straight one and it's not as hard as you think. It's really easy to persuate straight guys to do anything, you just have to know how to do it.

I like to watch straight guys, either solo, with another guy or a girl, I don't care.

Lucky we have straight guys in "gay" porn too. Without them, it would be nothing like we use to watch.

[horyna]

That's a rather romantic view: Porn stars doing porn because they adore sex. But it's also a job, isn't it?

I don't see why gay porn stars should not get paid. Actually porn stars don't get paid for having sex but for being filmed while doing and that stuff being published. You cannot go to gay people and ask them if you can watch them having sex. … Maybe you can and maybe they do it ...  ::)  :laugh:

Gay people have done it with women for centuries, why shouldn't it work vice versa? And in the times of Viagra I don't think it's a major problem any more.

[moraszapamti]

They are not straight.. simple as that

[7N7]

@moraszapamti:

They are not straight.. simple as that

In your pinky dreams

[horyna]

lol, I wished I still have those pinky dreams. There is nothing wrong about a little self-delusion from time to time.