Is bareback videos a culprit for AIDS?
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You can't blame porn. Blame lack of education.
I always assume if someone wants BB sex that they are HIV positive.
You can't blame any one thing. There are a myriad of factors that affect HIV rates. It's not effective to blame one of those factors and ignore the others.
In my experience saying it's soley because of lack of education isn't correct. i'll give myself as an example.
I am HIV negative, and currently single. I have had casual sex obviously.
I am confident that I am sufficiently educated on HIV risks, treatments and facts.
If I have casual sex, I protect myself. However I have to admit that I have had instances where I have been careless/ given in to temptation/ taken a risk.In my experience that is normal. If only because the instances that it has happened is with other's that would swear they are safe all the time.
I would say I am safe 90-95% of the time. I get the feeling that is rather common.Historically, I panic afterwards and get myself checked asap but the fact remains: why do I take the risk 5-10% of the time?
Do I elevate bareback sex in mind? yes
Why?I always assume if someone wants BB sex that they are HIV positive.
That's not fair. I will admit that its safe mindset, but it certainly isn't correct.
Wide spread demonisation of the desire for BB sex will only cause people to lie about how often they do it.
I didn't say that if someone wanted BB sex they were positive, it just means that I "assume" they are, I am not demonising anyone, it's my method to staying safe.
You have to ask yourself, "if they are willing to have BB with me and know nothing about me then how many other people have they had BB sex with"
Of course it isn't fair to judge people. But rather safe than sorryā¦ but I still sleep with them lol, I just rubber up.
Of course I have had BB with random people before (many years ago). But like you consider myself to be fairly well educated on the risks.
The reason you have "elevated" BB in your mind is because BB is the bees knees! It doesn't get better than BB. But you have to weigh up the risks involved.
Of course there is a risk with BB, even in a LTR, we both get checked every 3 months. It is about trust and after being with him for nearly 12 years I think I can trust him. We have both had BB with randoms since being with each other and we tell each other straight away. Then we keep it wrapped for the next few weeks and once the "incubation period" (Think its 2 weeks with the current testing we get.) has passed we get checked, then back to BB.
I think education is largely to blame, most people who have BB sex in my experience are not aware of the risks, 1 in 8 gay/bi men in London are estimated to be HIV positive, 1 in 20 as a UK national average. That means that last year statistically I would have slept with at least 2 men who were HIV positive.
anyhow, I don't want to argue, its just my opinion.
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I'm sorry if that came across more confrontational than intend, it's not an argument. I actually gathered that the statement for what it was.
The only thing we disagree on is that high risk behaviour is due to lack of education.
Every time I've had the situation crop up with a guy its pretty much always been a case of them actively ignoring the risks as apposed to them not understanding that they should be safe. I'll admit that there is a range in people's understanding of nuances of the risk itself but all the same, they know the overall message.
A lot people I've met use self justifications like, "Even if I get it. It's not a big deal" but when you follow up with with, "Well do you actually want to get it?" The answer is always no.
I will admit that the whole Prep thing does have people confused.
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If you mean "Are the bareback acts we're seeing happening on camera possibly spreading HIV?" then sure, probably. Some of the more crazy barebacking videos I've seen where it's a recording of a giant bareback sex party probably had some STD sharing happening, but the fact that it was being recorded didn't change that. If it was happening privately with no cameras around the HIV spreading would still happen.
On the other hand if you mean "Are people watching these barebacking videos and then being influenced by them into thinking it's all cool and awesome and no worries to run out and do the same?" then that's just silly. Sure, like with violent films, video games, etc. every once in a blue moon there's going to be that one nutcase with a very low IQ who sees something on film and feels the urge to mimic it in real life, but they're, thankfully, extremely rare, and their stupidity-fueled actions are in no way to blame on the media they consumed.
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On the other hand if you mean "Are people watching these barebacking videos and then being influenced by them into thinking it's all cool and awesome and no worries to run out and do the same?" then that's just silly. Sure, like with violent films, video games, etc. every once in a blue moon there's going to be that one nutcase with a very low IQ who sees something on film and feels the urge to mimic it in real life, but they're, thankfully, extremely rare, and their stupidity-fueled actions are in no way to blame on the media they consumed.
You are thinking in extreme's.
Porn influences sex in a multitude of ways. Hell I can even say that it has had some influence on the type of people I am atracted to, the way I view my body and the habits I keep to influence what I look like.
I pretty much exclusively watch bareback videos. (To me they are just hotter)
On the occasions that I have slipped up and been stupid in sex. Is it possible that has had effect?Ā Maybe.
Its obviously not the sole or even main reason obviously.
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all gay starĀ movie actors they tested for HIV before they makeĀ this movies
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A few red flags in this discussionā¦
PREP is not a guaranteed protection...
When taken every day, PrEP has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV infection in people who are at high risk by more than 90%. PrEP is much less effective if it is not taken consistently. PrEP can be even more effective if it is combined with other ways to prevent new HIV infections like condom use, drug abuse treatment, and treatment for people living with HIV to reduce the chance of passing the virus to others.
Someone who has an undetectable viral load can still pass on HIV
Just because you have HIV doesn't mean it is safe to have Bareback with other positive people...
"Re-infection, also called āsuperinfectionā, is when you are HIV positive, have unprotected sex with another person with HIV and pick up (or pass on) a different strain of the virus.This can make you sicker faster if the new strain is more aggressive than the strain you already have. If the new strain is resistant to HIV drugs, it may also stop your drugs from working or limit the therapy you take in future.
It is hard to say how common re-infection is. Recent studies suggest it may be more common than previously thought. If you have HIV you will need to find out as much as you can and make your own decision."
You can't blame porn. Blame lack of education.
I always assume if someone wants BB sex that they are HIV positive.
I never have BB sex with anyone apart from my husband, we always play safe with other guys.http://www.tht.org.uk
https://www.aids.gov
http://www.hivaware.org.ukdo you ask the guy to use condom when you perform BJ on him?
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Just to point something outā¦ There has yet to be so much as one documented case of HIV transmission where the only sexual contact was oral.... Just sayin'.... This doesn't mean it's impossible for transmission to occur from oral sex, however it is very suggestive that the risk isn't very significant to begin with from oral sex.
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foreco,
Thank you for the information it really helped me understand the whole situation better.
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I think studios are more careful then they were back then but at this point it would only make a small dent I believe.
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its very dengerus
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I really do hate questions like these. It's like saying "violent video games are responsible for homicides." It's a bunch of rubbish! Anybody with good common sense cannot blame video games for the actions of others. There is always something far deeper. So, having said that, you can't blame barebacking videos for the cause of H.I.V. and A.I.D.S. it is not logical. I love bareback videos, but I'm not going to make willful attempts to have someone bareback me, or someone else simply because that's what I like to watch. SMHā¦ Ā :blink:
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its very dengerus
It's spelled "dangerous", and noā¦ It's not necessarily dangerous. There are a number of factors to take into account when assessing risk factors, the biggest of which is the person's viral load. It is scientifically proven that an undetectable viral load alone is safer than a condom, so I'd beg to differ on that point.
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It's spelled "dangerous"
Erm, we don't correct people's spelling. Especially when English may not be their first language and we know what someone means
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I get where you're coming from cannonmc, but I have just one questionā¦.
If nobody points out spelling errors, how can they learn? I really don't mean to sound like a dick, but I can see how it may be perceived as such.
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I get where you're coming from cannonmc, but I have just one questionā¦.
If nobody points out spelling errors, how can they learn? I really don't mean to sound like a dick, but I can see how it may be perceived as such.
::)
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I realize this is something of a dead thread, but it came to mind when I had a discussion last night.Ā A friend of mine essentially said most people are seroconverting because of bareback porn.Ā It shocked me because he is an HIV positive man (who is HIV poz for 20+ years) and a former educator.
Im negative and a former educator, and I call hogwash.Ā I think a goo number of people can separate the fantasy of porn from reality; not just barebacking but the romanticizing (and cleaning up) of a lot of sexual acts that occur.
I think it's an easy red herring to label porn as the cause of rising HIV rates, but the fastest growing populations are younger and minority in the US - so that doesn't seem to match the "porn consumption crowd".
I wish I knew what the lynchpin was - I'd love to reduce the possibility of infection for so many at risk
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Poor education / awareness is a more serious culprit. I've heard from a public health sex worker, whom I had a talk with very recently, is that gay teenagers think it's okay to have unprotected sex and actually getting infected with HIV isn't that serious. If you're already infected you don't have to use condoms, inside condoms, dental dams, gloves and the like, and that would be completely fine, and that there would be little to no reason for concern whatsoever, it's just that once you're not seropositive anymore you'll have to use medication. So these teens try to get infected with HIV purposefully. One of these methods is bareback sex, but oral sex and any other activity which causes exchange of bodily fluids also transmit HIV.
In my opinion, that is a horrible thing to do. You'll easily infect unaware sex partners with the virus, and cause grief to them and the people close to them.
Sure enough, trace amounts of HIV and other STD's have a time window before they can be detected, and if you have protected sex in that time window (And you think you're clean) you can infect other sex partners through unprotected sex.
Good sex education can prevent a lot of trouble. And getting tested regularly, too.
This! I live in the Philippines where HIV rate has increased 4800% Yes, that's 4800% due to lack of sex education to the younger generation who are the highest victims of HIV and unintended Pregnancy.Ā What's worse is that our predominant religion which is Roman Catholic, is opposed to sex education and contraceptives in general making HIV awareness to the larger lower class sector virtually nonexistent.
I've watched documentaries about 14 to 16 year old kids in my country being interviewed about the use of condoms and their response is like "What is that?" or "No budget to buy one" even if they can afford to have an online presence with their phones of from net cafes.
Currently, there are like 48000 people under HIV medications but a doctor friend of mine assumes that the actual infected HIV pipz here is at least 4x the number.Ā His 2 year stint at a public hospital had a lot of 20 something guys dying of pneumonia which should be unheard of for a healthy male at that age.Ā At least those who are taking medications have made way to take control of their live but the majority of HIV positive people in the country are unaware of their status which would mean more people infected daily like the case of the 15 year old kid who got infected because he wanted money to play DOTA in exchange of sexual favors.
Though bareback videos might seem the culprit, that would probably be more of a First World thing.Ā Social Media apps like Grindr and ironically Twitter aggravated the situation but sex education is the real culprit in my country.Ā Fortunately non-government organizations and our Department of Health are helping to combat the situation by providing education, testing and free medication to those who actively seek their help, but its like a rising tide over a 1 foot barrier.
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Poor education / awareness is a more serious culprit. I've heard from a public health sex worker, whom I had a talk with very recently, is that gay teenagers think it's okay to have unprotected sex and actually getting infected with HIV isn't that serious. If you're already infected you don't have to use condoms, inside condoms, dental dams, gloves and the like, and that would be completely fine, and that there would be little to no reason for concern whatsoever, it's just that once you're not seropositive anymore you'll have to use medication. So these teens try to get infected with HIV purposefully. One of these methods is bareback sex, but oral sex and any other activity which causes exchange of bodily fluids also transmit HIV.
In my opinion, that is a horrible thing to do. You'll easily infect unaware sex partners with the virus, and cause grief to them and the people close to them.
Sure enough, trace amounts of HIV and other STD's have a time window before they can be detected, and if you have protected sex in that time window (And you think you're clean) you can infect other sex partners through unprotected sex.
Good sex education can prevent a lot of trouble. And getting tested regularly, too.
This! I live in the Philippines where HIV rate has increased 4800% Yes, that's 4800% due to lack of sex education to the younger generation who are the highest victims of HIV and unintended Pregnancy.Ā What's worse is that our predominant religion which is Roman Catholic, is opposed to sex education and contraceptives in general making HIV awareness to the larger lower class sector virtually nonexistent.
I've watched documentaries about 14 to 16 year old kids in my country being interviewed about the use of condoms and their response is like "What is that?" or "No budget to buy one" even if they can afford to have an online presence with their phones of from net cafes.
Currently, there are like 48000 people under HIV medications but a doctor friend of mine assumes that the actual infected HIV pipz here is at least 4x the number.Ā His 2 year stint at a public hospital had a lot of 20 something guys dying of pneumonia which should be unheard of for a healthy male at that age.Ā At least those who are taking medications have made way to take control of their live but the majority of HIV positive people in the country are unaware of their status which would mean more people infected daily like the case of the 15 year old kid who got infected because he wanted money to play DOTA in exchange of sexual favors.
Though bareback videos might seem the culprit, that would probably be more of a First World thing.Ā Social Media apps like Grindr and ironically Twitter aggravated the situation but sex education is the real culprit in my country.Ā Fortunately non-government organizations and our Department of Health are helping to combat the situation by providing education, testing and free medication to those who actively seek their help, but its like a rising tide over a 1 foot barrier.
HIV/AIDS infection in the Philippines was low but growing.
The incidence of HIV/AIDS in 2015 in the country remained under 0.1% of the total population.
:afr:
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Like many others before me said, barebacking is extremely dangerous, you may think yourselves clean of STDĀ“s, but these deceases have very long time of incubation, and a window in witch they are not detectable. So you may have been tested negative, but still have some STD (hepatitis C, witch no one takes seriously and is even more dangerous than HIV, for example).
People thinking that HIV is the ONLY issue in barebacking is one of the greatest issues, like the belief that if you ejaculate outside the body you don't transmit the decease or believing that tops canĀ“t get infected.
All I said before leads us to one logical conclusion, the big issue is LACK OF KNOWLEDGE witch comes as a result of LACK OF REAL SEXUAL EDUCATION.
Love bareback movies and I suppose that if you are porn model you should get information of quality and know that you have no assurances that youĀ“ll be fine. ITĀ“S A HIGH RISK ACTIVITY AND SO THEY NEED TO BE INFORMED RESPONSIBLY.:cheers: AND, OF COURSE, NO PROHIBITIONS, WE HAVE FREE WILL WHETHER CENSORS LIKE IT OR NOT.Ā :cheers:
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lots of porn studies going bareback now coz its more profitable for now..corbin fisher is now into bareback unheard of 10years ago
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