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    Is gay marriage extremely important to you?

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    • G Offline
      Gr1zz
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      @cumeaternc:

      US law says I cannot be denied a job due to race or gender but I have yet to land a job as a stripper at the local titty bar(strip club).

      Hmm… How many times have you applied?  Seriously.  If the answer is 0, then you are discriminating against yourself!  I would be impressed by 2 or above.  Heck, even 1 would do it.  How about posting your audition tape? :pleasant:
      @cumeaternc:

      On the flip side of the coin, how many hot women have you seen working a pole at a local gay bar??? None(I hope) ;D So does that mean we as a gay community are prejudice against hetro women stripping for us…YES!

      I'm not the best judge of "hot" women, but the local gay bar I used to visit the most had more rails than poles… it was also known for the best dance floor this side of Montreal.  There was nobody at the door checking for your QueerCard either.  Generally, at least 1/3 of the patrons, and 1/2 of the staff were people of the female persuasion, and one of the worst arguments was with the liquor control board, about people wanting to remove their shirts on hot days (or when they got overheated from dancing) although they allowed paid strippers at another bar, admittedly, in a different part of the city.

      Having said all of that, there are some very nice looking guys working at the local "Hooters".  I've got to check out their Wednesday wing night some time.

      [you], are you staring at my crotch?

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      • B Offline
        baduy
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        :hug:  also want to bundle their lives with their love (gay) regretfully people I met did not meet the requirements of my little love, more sex. And I keep searching forever in fatigue, will I ever find that person? What about marriage is a serious problem and not laws that also meet this, regretfully …

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        • M Offline
          martykisser
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          I'm not exactly a huge fan of gay marriage, for some reason, I just don't believe in it.. However, it is important for us to share the same rights as any other citizen does.. If this is to be achieved only by "marriage" then so be it, otherwise, civil partnership would suffice.. We're just here for the rights aspect of it and not the whole walking down the isle to meet your other half and declare your sweet vows thing..

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            notquiteme
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            I take the visitation rights pretty seriously.  I want my boyfriend/husbear to be able to visit me if we happen to come across some emergency in the USA.  They insist that "immediate family" only.  Sheesh that news really irritated me when i heard about it (the lesbian woman denied access to her partner in a hospital and the partner died).

            I believe in the promise of each sunrise.

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              max12011
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              First yes, gay marriage is important, and it is important because marriage is important.  I think its important for people to realize that if you accept that same sex couple can enter the same union granted to heterosexual couples, then the gay/straight marriage is actually a false dichotomy.  It's actually sad that "gay marriage" has even become a term.  If this is really cause for equality, then we should really only be talking about marriage…no gay needed.

              I think a better question is really about whether marriage is important?  I think the answer is yes; it is important, but not for everyone.  Ignoring the rights confer governmentally, the institution is really more of a binding trust between individuals.  It's an agreement to stay together (for what ever reason the parties decide).  The hassle is the point.  Getting married in a way of agreeing to tie yourself to someone and knowingly facing greater difficulty to end relationships.  I think theres quite a bit of sweetness in that.

              I'm not sure if I'll ever get married of if I want to, but I do believe that marriage is perhaps one of the most significant promises a person can actually make to another. I'm stuck to you...legally!

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              • mikoneM Offline
                mikone
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                @djb32067433:

                I wanted to know if any of you guys out there take gay marriage serious? I'm gay myself, but I think I don't need marriage to prove my love and commitment to another guy. If I had a partner and we both knew that we were spending the rest of our lives together, why go through the trouble of getting a marriage license or having a ceremony? What's your opinion on this?

                I am male, gay and married so i think i will answer yes on that. 🙂

                But seriusly its not all about love but also security, if something will happen to you are your loved one. If you are married you have legal rights like any stright couple. It makes me feal more secure and i love my husband. I am 30 and we have bean together for 10 years now, but only married 1 year.

                Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't.

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                • stealfireS Offline
                  stealfire
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                  Personally, even if I was straight I don't think marriage is of personal importance.  If two people are right for each other they'll stay together.  A marriage certificate isn't going to change that.  However, I think the right to marry is an important stepping stone to being treated as equals, as a precedent for future issues, for the satisfaction of those who choose to marry and to assuring benefits, etc., to our chosen family.

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                  • MrMazdaM Offline
                    MrMazda Global Moderator
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                    Whoopi Goldberg puts it best when she said

                    If you don't like gay marriage, just don't marry a gay person!

                    Whap The User
                    The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage!

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                    • raphjdR Offline
                      raphjd Forum Administrator
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                      @stealfire:

                      Personally, even if I was straight I don't think marriage is of personal importance.  If two people are right for each other they'll stay together.  A marriage certificate isn't going to change that.  However, I think the right to marry is an important stepping stone to being treated as equals, as a precedent for future issues, for the satisfaction of those who choose to marry and to assuring benefits, etc., to our chosen family.

                      You don't see the 1,400+ rights granted under marriage in the US as important?

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                        fancydude
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                        A number of studies have been done (on straight people of course) but I don't know why they wouldn't mostly apply to Gay people.  The argument always comes up that "marriage is just a piece of paper."  This ignores the fact that most people see marriage as a permanent thing and plan accordingly.  They generally intertwine themselves in a joint checking, joint savings, mortgage in both their names, children etc.  Society blesses the union with a religious ceremony.  Part of the attractiveness of living together is that it can be dissolved without a word, if one of the parties is of the mind to be so inconsiderate.  Just move out.  But more on living together….Each party keeps their own money, often spending it in ways which would likely not occur in the married/mortgage/save for the children's colllege fund scenario.  For (stereotyped example) the nonmarried man can gamble on the horses to excess and the nonmarried woman can spend as much as she likes on clothes.  As long as each comes up with their half of the rent, who can chastise the other?  Living together is just a completely different mindset.  In the married model, it forsees the road may be rough, people blow up, lose patience, but marriage gives them cause to 'give it one more shot' since dissolving is much more expensive and painful, emotionally, socially etc.

                        Of course there are always exceptions; some can live together in a committed state of unmarriedness and vice versa, but in general this makes sense to me.

                        Interestingly, in the documentary "Saving Marriage" - the married (Gay) couples gave many of the same arguments I've summarized above!

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