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      Zoobas @blablarg18
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      @blablarg18 Bro there are more parties and directions than left or right. Libertarians, Christian Democrats, Nationalists, Greens... None of these map cleanly onto left/right. Reading a history book might help you figure that one out, but I think you get the point.

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        raphjd Forum Administrator @Zoobas
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        @raphjd I'm not a leftist, tho lmao

        I feel like you're just using the framing of "person holding an opinion I don't like, therefore leftist", which.... Seems about right when you don't really wanna think for yourself, I suppose.

        And my point still stands, nobody non-racist says "you and your ilk". At best you're being bigoted, when using the term. Doesn't really matter what the context is, 99% of the time.

        You talk like a leftist. I wouldn't be surprised if you had multi-colored hair and a nose ring.

        I think for myself, which is why I can be gay and not think as part of the hivemind.

        Funny, I was racist a minute ago, now I'm just a bigot.

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          raphjd Forum Administrator @Zoobas
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          @Zoobas

          So, every time someone new jumps into the covnersation, you demand we throw in every caveat for everything we believe.

          If you paid attention, you'd know we don't have any issue with LEGAL immigration. It's been said countless times in various threads.

          You are basing your ICE views based on leftist media. They aren't targeting just non-whites. Also, over 2/3rds of ICE is non-white, with the majority being hispanic.

          I wouldn't doubt that you still believe the lie that the little girl (toddler) with her mom and the border patrol, was taken away from her mom. I know, I know, you media told you that lie. They also didn't tell you the first part of the story that the mom was well off but wanted to come to the US so she left her entire family behind and tried to sneak into the US. She got caught and was sent back. She was told that if she brought her toddler, ICE would let her stay. Didn't work. Mother and daughter were deported. That was under Trump 45.

          More recently, under Trump 47, a similar thing happened. The leftist media claimed that ICE took a little boy from his dad. Of course, that was a total lie. The dad fled, leaving the kid so ICE had to take the kid into their care until CPS could take him.

          There are countless examples of the leftist media lying.

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            raphjd Forum Administrator @Zoobas
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            @Zoobas said:

            @blablarg18 Bro there are more parties and directions than left or right. Libertarians, Christian Democrats, Nationalists, Greens... None of these map cleanly onto left/right. Reading a history book might help you figure that one out, but I think you get the point.

            The political spectrum is a left/right thing. It's like gender.

            Every political belief falls somewhere between extreme left and extreme right.

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              blablarg18 @raphjd
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              @raphjd Left-Right is terms from French Revolution. If u trace it back there, it gets simple fast.

              1. Far Left - says Christians MUST be killed now, especially orthodox ones (Catholic in West, Orthodox in Russia) so that we can engineer "New Man". Pol Pot, Bolsheviks, Jacobins, Spanish Republicans, Ho Chi Minh - all took great pleasure in rape, slaughter & execution of nuns & priests.

              2. Left - I'll finance Far Left & wink at them.

              3. Center - Propaganda trick of Far Left. "I'm moderate and even I agree that.......[latest Far Left position]"

              4. Right - I honestly don't care if Christians are killed. I guess they can live. Maybe.

              5. Far Right - says, No don't kill orthodox & believing Christians, you sick assholes.

              Issues of race, sex & class are window dressing. Nazis were SOCIALIST & Far Left, like Bolsheviks. Nazis made a few pro-Christian speeches to get power, then went full pagan-secular-satanist & put strongest Christian believers in concentration camps - alongside Gypsies, Gays, mental defectives, & working-class Jews, means Jews who were not 'connected' like young George Soros was connected..

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                Zoobas @raphjd
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                @raphjd Bro, it says it right there "AT BEST you're a biggot". Do you know what that means? It means I'm implying more than one possibility. You could be a racist, a bigot or whatever. This really is not the gotcha you think it is lmao

                Not only that, but racism is A FORM of bigotry by definition, look:

                "Racism is a form of bigotry. A bigot is someone who holds strong prejudices against particular groups, and since racists specifically harbor beliefs about racial superiority and inferiority, they fall under the broader category of bigotry."

                Bigotry is any kind of intolerance: from sexism to homophobia. Just the fact that you don't know what the word means is... Aggravating. If this is your definition of not being part of a hivemind, I really would have to ask you if you're okay. You really don't seem to be quite outside this "hivemind" as you might think.

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                  Zoobas @raphjd
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                  @raphjd Bro, I legitimately don't know what you're talking about. I don't live in the US anymore, so I don't know what this toddler thing is about. You're making a lot of assumptions lol

                  I could look it up, but I don't think this particular incident has much to do with the main thing we're discussing: this thread being racist and migration. I'm not gonna get into whatever the incident with the toddler and the border patrol was, because it doesn't disprove anything that I said so far. Proving it to be true or not does nothing for the discussion at hand.

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                    Zoobas @raphjd
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                    @raphjd The gender argument literally adds nothing to the discussion, so... Yeah. Good luck with that one. Your way of viewing politics is extremely narrow-minded. Moving on...

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                      Zoobas @blablarg18
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                      @blablarg18 Cool origin story, but your entire spectrum is just "who kills Christians" with extra steps. That's a persecution complex with a bibliography, not political theory.

                      The French Revolution origin is real. The part you left out is that which side of the room you sat on was about economics and power, not religion. The aristocrats and other nobles who aligned with the king would be on the right, and everyone else would sit on the left. You took a historical footnote and retrofitted your whole worldview onto it.

                      Bolsheviks and Khmer Rouge were brutal to clergy, sure. But 'some regimes killed priests' doesn't make that the defining axis of all politics. Liberation theology and Christian socialism exist, which is apparently news to you.

                      On Nazis being far left: they dissolved socialist parties day one, threw Marxists and union organizers in camps. If that's far left, they were really committed to the bit of murdering every other far leftist first, without fail. Historians who actually study fascism (from all sides of the political spectrum) classify it separately precisely because of what fascists DID, not what they called themselves.

                      The Soros "connected Jews vs working class Jews" bit is where you stopped doing history entirely, by the way. This is supposed to be about politics and history, not a conclusion you built first and reverse-engineered a map to get to.

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                        @Zoobas said:

                        @raphjd Bro, I legitimately don't know what you're talking about. I don't live in the US anymore, so I don't know what this toddler thing is about. You're making a lot of assumptions lol

                        I could look it up, but I don't think this particular incident has much to do with the main thing we're discussing: this thread being racist and migration. I'm not gonna get into whatever the incident with the toddler and the border patrol was, because it doesn't disprove anything that I said so far. Proving it to be true or not does nothing for the discussion at hand.

                        Ah, so you admit you are sling insults around, without knowing any of the context involved. Typical leftist.

                        I don't live in the US anymore, and I still know what is going on.

                        Sadly, I gave you more credit than you deserve. I thought you at least paid attention to the various geopolitical issues.

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