Rep. Mike Johnson elected 56th Speaker of the House
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@blablarg18 said in Rep. Mike Johnson elected 56th Speaker of the House:
As to whatever laws you're going on about: they never banned gay discussions with kids - only pornographic discussions.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Let me quote the actual Florida law language, as it currently reads after amendment in 2023.
Fla. Stat. 1001.42(8)(c)(3) states:
"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in prekindergarten through grade 8, except when required by ss. 1003.42(2)(n)3. and 1003.46. If such instruction is provided in grades 9 through 12, the instruction must be age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards. This subparagraph applies to charter schools."
Read it with your own goddamn eyes above. It's not about pornography. It's not about sex books. The "Don't Say Gay" bill specifically and explicitly forbids school personnel from any instruction involving sexual orientation or sexual identity.
It doesn't say, "Don't show kids books with titties and cocks." It's sexual orientation. Under Florida's law, a teacher legally CANNOT read that book about a girl having two dads. That's what Florida banned. Not pornography.
Now, I understand why you thought the law did something different. That's because the forces trying to erase LGBT people sold this law on the basis of protecting children from grooming. But the law was always anti-gay.
In fact, it doesn't even stop kids from seeing pornography. So long as the material is heteronormative (i.e., a man fucking a woman) then this law doesn't even ban it. It does nothing to protect children from inappropriate heterosexual content.
You were, in fact, sold a lie.
Also please note that the law has been expanded beyond elementary school children. It was amended to apply up to the 8th grade. And it extends beyond to 12th grade so long as anyone complains, as you know a conservative will. So, it de facto covers pre-K thru 12th grade now.
Don't bullshit me when you haven't even read the law itself.
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And just in case you're thinking, "Oh, well that's just the general language they used. The law is really just about grooming," then let me dissuade you of that delusion.
If Florida had wanted to pass an anti-grooming law, then it could have done so using clear, explicit, unambiguous language. It didn't do that, because that's not what this Bill was about.
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There is no such thing as the "don't say gay" bill.
The bill you are referring to say that you can't talk to kids below a certain grade (can't remember if it's below 3rd grade or including 3rd grade) about sex and/or sexuality.
You people created the situation you are complaining about. You put porn in school libraries, then called anyone who objected "assholes".
These are the same books that have had parents arrested for reading out loud at school board meetings because the books are deemed too obscene except in school libraries. One mother was arrested for simply opening the book, because the same people that approved the book said the pictures were obscene.
Of course, you are too far gone to understand the hypocrisy.
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@raphjd said in Rep. Mike Johnson elected 56th Speaker of the House:
The bill you are referring to say that you can't talk to kids below a certain grade (can't remember if it's below 3rd grade or including 3rd grade) about sex and/or sexuality.
Dumbass, I can tell you didn't read. I quote for you directly the law as it reads on Florida's law books right now. I will do so again since you couldn't read it the first time.
Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in prekindergarten through grade 8, except when required by ss. 1003.42(2)(n)3. and 1003.46. If such instruction is provided in grades 9 through 12, the instruction must be age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards. This subparagraph applies to charter schools.
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@raphjd said in Rep. Mike Johnson elected 56th Speaker of the House:
You put porn in school libraries
Also, why didn't Florida pass a law to ban putting pornography in school libraries? The "Don't Say Gay" bill doesn't do that.
As I pointed out, that bill has no effect on a book featuring heterosexual pornography. If a pre-K school library has a book called, "Baby's First Titty Fuck," this bill does nothing.
Now, if there's a book about Sally having two mothers, no nudity or discussion of sexual intercourse at all, then the bill WOULD ban that book.
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OK, so it was a higher age than I remembered.
AGAIN, you people created the situation that you are now whining about. You people put porn in school libraries and this is the blow back.
If the books are too obscene to be at school board meetings, then they definitely way too obscene to be in a K-5 school library or any other school library.
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These are the kinds of books you want in school libraries. And if parents show the pictures and/or read from them, then you have them arrested for obscenity.
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@raphjd said in Rep. Mike Johnson elected 56th Speaker of the House:
OK, so it was a higher age than I remembered
Not only a higher grade level, but also it doesn't say SEX. The bill explicitly says
sexual orientation or gender identity
This isn't an anti-sex bill. It's an anti-LGBT bill.
@raphjd said in Rep. Mike Johnson elected 56th Speaker of the House:
You people put porn in school libraries and this is the blow back.
Then why didn't Florida pass a law to prevent porn in libraries? Again, the "Don't Say Gay" bill does nothing about pornography.
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Teachers secretly coaching kids into transing and all manner of things is what you people did and now you cry about the backlash.
Back in my day, we were always told not to keep secrets from our parents and now you guys want us to do it. That is grooming tactics.
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@raphjd Poor raphjd got his ass handed to him and now he's trying to change the subject.
You said the "Don't Say Gay" bill was about sex and preventing pornography in school libraries. You can have your own private opinion, but you don't get your own private facts.
I showed you what the actual law says. You were proven wrong.
Now you're tucking your tail and trying to throw out a red herring.
Wow, you're pathetic!
Fox News, OANN, Tucker Carlson, or whoever you were listening to about the "Don't Say Gay" bill was lying to you. You were lied to. Just admit it and learn from it.
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I've done a bit of research and I'm finding articles from Florida that say it's below 4th grade.
and the so-called "Don't Say Gay" bill, which bans instruction involving gender identity and sexual orientation before fourth gradeThat's from an article that whines about banning LGBT books in school libraries.
Of course, they don't mention that school boards in the state have banned classics like Huck Finn, To Kill A Mocking Bird and many more because liberals don't want them in school libraries.
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You are getting the backlash you deserve for your (liberals) antics in schools.
What red herring? Schools are being sued for this crap. I would have thought a know it all lawyer would know that. A month or so ago, a school settled for $500k.
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@raphjd said in Rep. Mike Johnson elected 56th Speaker of the House:
I've done a bit of research and I'm finding articles from Florida that say it's below 4th grade.
I suggest you keep researching until you find where it's amendment changing the text was approved by the Governor on 5/17/2023 and went into effect on July 1, 2023.
You can find it here:
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This is the 2023 amendment approved by DeSantis and went into effect on July 1, 2023. The crossed-out words were removed from the codified statute, and the underlined words were added. I did your "research" for you. Stop being lied to by Fox News, OANN, Carlson, or whatever news source you rely on. This, below, is the REAL world and what the REAL law says.
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What is wrong with that?
Back in my day, teachers didn't talk about their sexual orientation or who they were fucking. They didn't indoctrinate us into queer theory and white guilt. They didn't push liberal propaganda on us.
From 6th grade, we had health ed, which taught us about our bodies, puberty, and whatnot, but we didn't have sex ed until 9th grade. This was in liberal Illinois.
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@raphjd It's sad that you think acknowledging that gays exist is "liberal propaganda." You must truly have a great deal of self-hate.
@raphjd said in Rep. Mike Johnson elected 56th Speaker of the House:
They didn't indoctrinate us into queer theory
How is this "queer theory?"
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There's a huge difference between saying gays exist and the stuff we've seen in secretly recorded videos or what teachers themselves say on social media.
Project Veritas exposed one male teacher who said he wanted to turn his students into "little queer warriors".
A Scottish teen got expelled for saying there are only 2 genders. He's far from the only case of this happening.
We see the videos teachers upload of their little students "protesting" for BLM by marching up and down the hall shouting BLM slogans.
There's the video of the dad who was called into his son's school because the son would not stop crying. The teacher put him in a dress and he didn't like it so he cried. The teacher made him stay in the dress. The teacher didn't seem like she knew what she did wrong.
Social media is full of this stuff.
Mainstream media won't show it, because it destroys their liberal narrative. Local news isn't as bad as national news.
This crap is rampant.
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Lib writer faults Speaker Mike for his apparent lack of corruption - repeat, LACK of corruption:
Mike Johnson doesn't have any retirement savings, own a single stock, or have any assets at all. He has less than $5,000 in his bank account.
He's got a 250-500K mortgage, a home equity loan, and a personal loan.
So what's his retirement plan? To lobby?
If Johnson did lobby in retirement, well libs do it nonstop.
But here's the point. USA Congress is famous for insider trades.
Pelosi, Fauxcahontas Warren, Bernie Sanders, tons of Dems..... GOP sleazeballs too..... make ten million$$ from stock trades with their insider knowledge.
If Johnson is as poor as the lib writer claims: Johnson didn't.
That's good. But, as lib, the writer needs to make it bad somehow.
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LINK: Weeks Before Election as Speaker, Johnson Lamented ‘Dark and Depraved’ Cultur
Mike Johnson’s comments on a prayer call in October, during which he talked about church attendance and L.G.B.T.Q. youth, offered an up-to-date distillation of his views.
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Speaker Mike is still sketchy to me - but here's prob what libs are so terriried of.
BREAKING: All Jan 6 footage publicly RELEASED by House Speaker Mike Johnson
"I am keeping my promise to the American people and making all the January 6th tapes available to ALL Americans."
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-jan-6-footage-publicly-released-by-house-speaker-mike-johnson
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