"LatinX" and the 5 year u-turn
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Liberals spent Trump's entire Presidency claiming that the Russians stood it for him. Likewise with Stacey Abrams' loss.
Other than in the far fringes, I can't think of anything clown world about conservative ideas. Liberals, on the other hand, have world leaders spouting the clown world BS.
Climate change is extremely overrated. Until about 1978, we would currently be living in an ice age. Then until about 8 or so years ago, we would be currently living in a tropical paradise. Now the world is going to end in about 7 years. We can also go back to all the controversies about global warming/climate change, such as Email-gate, photoshopping glaciers and many others.
Liberals have all the issues around kids and gender. Kids are too stupid and immature to drink or drive, etc, etc, etc, etc but they can get puberty blockers, their boobs removed, etc. In Scotland, you don't have criminal responsibility until you are 14 and reduced sentences until you are 25 due to the "fact" that the brain isn't fully formed until then, BUT you can decide you are a different gender at 4 because your brain is fully functioning then and you know what you are.
Liberal MSM and big tech intentionally blocked the Hunter Biden laptop story, to help Biden.
Conservatives have been censored and canceled. Paypal has been in the news lately for doing it. I guess you missed the Congressional hearing where they (big tech) admitted that of the 26 elected politicians (at that point in time) that were banned, only 1 was a Democrat. On Joe Rogan's podcast, Jack Dorsey and the head of legal (the one who cried when Elon Musk said he was going to buy Twitter) admitted that they routinely act before thinking, which affects conservatives most.
I don't know of any Repub that didn't push back at the Pizza-gate crap.
Counter that to the "Summer of Love" and "Antifa is nothing more than a myth", both of which were spouted by Dems from the top to the bottom.
I think the big lie exists due to the antics of the vote counters, which you can find videos of on YouTube if you're interested. The fact that we keep having articles of Dems who committed mass voter fraud. Sure, there's the odd Repub caught too, but the extreme vast majority is by Dems, many of which I've posted here.
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@raphjd
well, this was fun for a while, but now you just sound like the ranting media idiots, so I guess this interesting discussion is done. -
@tnar said in "LatinX" and the 5 year u-turn:
well, this was fun for a while, but now you just sound like the ranting media idiots, so I guess this interesting discussion is done.
Unfortunately, raphjd is not here to debate anyone. Since Tucker Carlson and his A/M radio can't hear him shouting in agreement, he comes here to shout screeds at anyone who dares to participate in this Forum.
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Clearly, because your liberal MSM didn't report on it, you refuse to believe it.
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LOL, ok, dearie.
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@raphjd
That's a cop out avoiding the issues.Apparently you have nothing to back up some of your deeply held views, ones for which I can find no evidence. Not sure why you can't find any either, but that's what happened here.
There are similar unproven deeply held liberal views, of course. I haven't disputed that.
You also have lots of generalizations about liberals. Some of them I agree with (and I've said that about a few things in this thread), and I'm open to believing more of them, but you've given me no leads on those.
You've also given me no examples of conservatives condemning ignorance and nonsense in their own party. I'm sure that happens here and there, but I don't see anything as widespread as you imply.
I cite examples of legitimate candidates who have recently won primary elections repeating the big lie and even wasting taxpayers money by suing government agencies over made-up issues with the 2020 elections in Arizona, claims that Cyber Ninjas, hired by the Republican super-majority state senate, could not substantiate. That little stunt cost the taxpayers of the state of Arizona and Maricopa County 10s of millions of dollars, and by the way, broke the necessary security protocols on the voting machines, requiring replacement and/or expensive recertification, also paid for by taxpayers.
All that government waste is the kind of thing conservatives I grew up with and around normally seeth and rave over, but that didn't happen in this case. Not sure why, but there's certainly no condemning of nonsense in this case.
And Hillary, who hasn't run for anything in almost 6 years, is somehow brought up in this context. Why not bring up the problems with her private mail server, where conservatives do have a point when they say national security was at risk of (or maybe was) endangered?
You say liberals spent Trumps entire presidency trying to find a link to Russia. They sure did. Conservatives spent a large part of Hillary's term as Secretary of State investigating Benghazi. There were some issues uncovered by both, but no hugely damaging bombshells. They were both mostly politically motivated wastes of time.
I could go on.
What I was actually hoping was to learn something I didn't know, or gain a better understanding of conservative thought. That's not what happened here, unfortunately.
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I have posted, over the years, things that even your elected officials have said and done. They aren't generalizations when they are active DNC or other liberal political party depending on the country's policies. The same applies when it's all the liberal MSM talks about.
I don't watch regular tv anymore. I mostly watch YouTube. Before you say something silly, you can watch news clips from around the world, as well as Congressional hearings and countless other things, besides kitten videos.
I'm not going to hunt for videos and news clips of politicians saying that Pizza-gate is/was bullshit. It's not worth my time.
I posted Tucker's video when he proved that the "51 intel experts" lied to the world, on liberal MSM, that they had absolute proof that Trump colluded with Russia. He did this by showing their TV interviews and then reading from their (now) declassified testimony in Shifty Schiff's secret hearing in the Capitol basement. Every liberal who routinely posted at the time actively refused to watch the video. Instead, they just called me names and labeled Tucker a liar.
Those same "51 Intel experts" said that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation, but we now know that even liberal MSM is now admitting it's real.
Zuckerberg said that the FBI came to him a few days before Hunter's laptop became a thing and told them that some Russian disinfo was about to drop.
The deep state, liberal MSM, social media, and big tech conspired to bury Hunter's laptop.
Hunter's laptop was a massive Russian lie and I was a Russian operative, according to your fellow liberals.
Voter fraud is very real. I have posted several articles about mostly Dems getting busted for doing and quite often for long periods of time. The Dem woman from Wayne County MI plead guilty to doing this for over 20 years and in the triple digits each election.
Steven Crowder did some videos on voter fraud, where he showed that people registered to vote while listing their addresses as vacant parking lots, self-storage units and the like.
Hillary is still in the news, so she is fair game. Also, she said some things over the years that apply to the topic. She, like Stacy Abrams and so many Dems who lost refuse to admit they lost fairly, but liberals don't mind that. Liberals only care that Trump says he didn't lose fairly. Repubs see that both sides do it, while liberals ignore that their side does it also.
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@hubrys seems that you're right about this.
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@tnar The national debt is $31.044 Trillion, 10s of millions? not even close to spare change. "conservative I grew up with", time changes, people change. Liberals back in the day are now classical liberals. Liberals nowaday are authoritative/ Marxist leftists.
This happened right under the nose of the government :
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/22/politics/covid-pandemic-unemployment-benefits-fraud/index.html
$45 billion = $45,000 million, so 10s of millions are not enough to wipe those "criminals" ' asses.
"Not sure why, but there's certainly no condemning of nonsense in this case." Common man! Really not sure why? to you it's "nonsense", but is it nonsense to them?
Both left and right have their own version of "the big lies", look it up if you are interested.
"What I was actually hoping was to learn something I didn't know, or gain a better understanding of conservative thought." No you were not. You wanna learn? you ask questions. Be true to yourself, common man!
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@tnar said in "LatinX" and the 5 year u-turn:
@hubrys seems that you're right about this.
As I said, I am not going to waste my time hunting through a bazzion hours of video to find some clips for you.
Countless encounters with liberals show it's always a waste of my time.
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@blackheart88
I'm not sure how you got from my comments about the cost of the Arizona state senate ordered recount of the 2020 election results in Maricopa County (which cost state and the county taxpayers somewhere between $90m and $150m) to the national debt. Calling $90-$150 "tens of millions of dollars" isn't a stretch.The rest of your uninformed diatribe stands on its own.
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@tnar
"That little stunt cost the taxpayers of the state of Arizona and Maricopa County 10s of millions of dollars"
your own words. My point was that the government has been wasting trillions of dollars, noone seems to give a damn, but they must care about 10s of millions of dollars of waste because the elections are always perfectly run, and there are no widespread voter frauds? which part is uninformed? the cnn article? you are lying about wanting to learn? or retorted to name calling? be more specific and I will entertain you
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