Karen in FL files criminal charges because school library didn't censor a LGBTQ book.
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@bi4smooth said in Karen in FL files criminal charges because school library didn't censor a LGBTQ book.:
20 years ago (eek, maybe closer to 30?) I was visiting Indianapolis and was taken to a "private club" (I had to pay $5 at the door to get a membership!
There was a similar law in North Carolina some years ago that prohibited bars from serving a "predominantly homosexual clientele" (or something like that). So, gay bars had to be "private clubs." I recall visiting a friend there and having a similar $5 membership fee. I also had to sign in...I signed as "Jesse Helms," a senator from that state with rabidly homophobic views.
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If a parent wants their kid to read porn, then they can buy it for them.
Schools, as low as elementary schools, have no business providing it.
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What is a LIBRARY?
just kidding.. but when I go to the library.. nobody bothers with the books anymore. They are there for the internet access, checking out videos, and maybe periodicals
Frankly, libraries are obsolete.
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I still find it obsolete how religion and state of affair are still so intertwine when both are suppose to be separate.
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@hubrys
So back to the topic. Have any of you read the book? I haven't but I downloaded it and Found these choice paragraphs:"He reached his hand down and pulled out my dick. He quickly went to giving me head. I just sat back and enjoyed it as I could tell he was, too. He was also definitely experienced in what he was doing, because he went to work quite confidently. He then came up and asked me if I wanted to try on him. I said sure. I began and he said, “Watch your teeth.” I didn’t want to let him know I was inexperienced. So, I slowed down and took my time and luckily got into a good rhythm. He didn’t know I was a virgin, and I did my best to act dominant like my favorite porn star. I was an actor, and this was my movie."
"I remember the condom was blue and flavored like cotton candy. I put some lube on and got him up on his knees, and I began to slide into him from behind. I tried not to force it because I imagined that it would be painful; I didn’t want this moment to be painful. So I eased in, slowly, until I heard him moan.
As we moved, I could tell he was excited—I was, too, but the pride in me told me not to show it. I felt like I was in control and proud of myself for getting it right on the first try—all the while still being nervous. I wanted to stay dominant in that moment. We went at it for about fifteen minutes before I started to get that feeling. Weakness in the legs, numbness in the waist. I finally came and let out a loud moan—to the point where he asked me to quiet down for the neighbors. I pulled out of him and kissed him while he masturbated. Then, he also came."
I found those with less than 10 mins of review.
If that doesn't change your mind how about looking at what the BIASED writer in the CNN article:
"A library should carry books for those teenagers who have the agency to choose books (by themselves) or for those parents who want their children to read certain books," Johnson said.
"You don't get to make that choice for all teenagers, you get to make that choice for your teenager, and your teenager only," they added.No teenager has free agency to make any choices. They are beholden to their parents until they reach the age of consent at 18. If parents want their children exposed to this sort of erotica they can purchase it or check it out from the adult section of the public library.
Government and/or Schools should NEVER expose something to a minor that parents object to. At the very least they should create an adult/parental consent section that is closely monitored by the library staff.
It is not CENSORSHIP to remove such content from school libraries. These are minors and their exposure or non-exposure is under the control of their parents not the Liberal school boards or teachers. Children are sent to school to be educated not indoctrinated.
PS I don't think that this shouldn't be read by questioning teens but their parents should read and discuss it with their teen. That is what I would do if I was a parent.
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This book was being provided to kids as young as 6, in elementary school libraries.
If it was obscene enough to threaten a mother with arrest simply for reading excerpts from the book at a school board meeting, then it is obscene enough to be banned from school libraries.
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I'm an atheist and I find it disgusting to provide porn to kids.
It's pedos that provide porn to kids, in order to groom them.
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@raphjd said in Karen in FL files criminal charges because school library didn't censor a LGBTQ book.:
This book was being provided to kids as young as 6, in elementary school libraries.
So far, we only have your repeated, but unsupported, statements that it was available in elementary school libraries. All of the articles I have read about this book refer to its removal from high school libraries.
So, show me where this book was in an elementary school library.
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@hubrys said in Karen in FL files criminal charges because school library didn't censor a LGBTQ book.:
So, show me where this book was in an elementary school library.
I was unable to find a elementary library listing for the book but I found this reference:
https://shawneemissionpost.com/2021/10/12/shawnee-mission-all-boys-arent-blue-133941/
In addition, Project Lit lists the specific book in question as a resource for children aged 12-18, and as 12-year-olds/ sixth graders in Shawnee Mission are in elementary school, concerns have been raised that the book could potentially be accessible by elementary school students. We have checked, and none of our elementary schools have this book. Again, it is not a book that is included in the curriculum at any level in the district.
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@geobear40 So, according to your article, the book was not available at any of that school system's elementary schools. It was included in a general list of books produced by an outside high school oriented literacy organization for use in out-of-school voluntary literacy clubs.
So, basically, raphjd is full of shit?
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@hubrys said in Karen in FL files criminal charges because school library didn't censor a LGBTQ book.:
So, according to your article, the book was not available at any of that school system's elementary schools. It was included in a general list of books produced by an outside high school oriented literacy organization for use in out-of-school voluntary literacy clubs.
So, basically, raphjd is full of shit?According to THE article, I didn't write the article.
Booksource, a book retail company, creates Project Lit book club lists and forwards these lists to educator and teachers telling them the books that should be in their libraries and classrooms. It is a marketing scheme to sell books that lazy Liberal educator and teachers eat up. These lists gives them more resources to indoctrinate children. If they were real teachers not advocates for a Liberal agenda they would dismiss this marketing as the shit it is. They would do their own reading and research and stop being spoon fed by others to make their job easier.
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https://sentinelksmo.org/board-candidates-reveal-graphic-sex-scenes-in-classroom-book/
An elementary school is promoting kiddie porn to elementary kids.
The supposed age group that is targeted is older than elementary school, so why are they listing the book?
It was in a 7th grade (12yo) classroom.
As noted in the article, this same school district is not opposed to banning books, they deem not woke.
Let's not forget that woke Facebook removed quotes from the book because it violated their decency rules.
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It was in Oak Park Elementary School library until it was removed.
Maybe you should use DuckDuckGo since they don't hide stuff from us as Google admits to doing.
This isn't the video I saw, but it's on topic.
NOTE: This is not the politics/debate section, so watch your mouth and tone or face a suspension or possibly a ban.
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"In response to questions sent by The Reporter after the meeting, district spokeswoman Christine Liberaski said Monday that “All Boys Aren’t Blue” was in the Oak Park library for five months during the 2020-21 schoolyear, but was never checked out by a student.
“Through investigation of the matter, it was found that the book was ordered after being researched and recommended as reading material helpful for students struggling with identity. After review of the book in August, it was removed from circulation (not last week as incorrectly reported) at the elementary school due to it not being developmentally appropriate for that age group. It was never read by the librarian to students,” she said."
[https://www.thereporteronline.com/2021/10/26/north-penn-parents-bash-board-over-books/](link url)
So, it was in AN elementary school, never checked out by a student, and then removed from the shelves after an investigation by the school district. This is your big evidence?
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It does not matter.
They provided a graphic detailed teen porn book to elementary (K-5) school kids.
So, grooming isn't bad, if it doesn't end up in actual sex acts, according to your logic.
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"Until I was eleven or twelve, I didn't realize there was a second set of labia on the inside, since you couldn't see them. What's even funnier is that I thought urine came out of the clitoris…When you're standing up, all you see from the front is hair. Between your legs there are two soft, cushiony things, also covered with hair, which press together when you're standing, so you can't see what's inside. They separate when you sit down and they're very red and quite fleshy on the inside. In the upper part, between the outer labia, there's a fold of skin that, on second thought, looks like a kind of blister. That's the clitoris."
In addition to the above, Anne Frank also talks about masturbation and her homosexual attractions. Yet we shouldn't ban this book as pornographic.
"This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes. I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples"; – Bible : Song of Solomon (7) : 7 – 8.
"11 “Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was more depraved than her sister. 12 She too lusted after the Assyrians—governors and commanders, warriors in full dress, mounted horsemen, all handsome young men. 13 I saw that she too defiled herself; both of them went the same way.
14 “But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on a wall, figures of Chaldeans[a] portrayed in red, 15 with belts around their waists and flowing turbans on their heads; all of them looked like Babylonian chariot officers, natives of Chaldea.[b] 16 As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea. 17 Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust. 18 When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her naked body, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. 19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled." Ezekiel 23:11-21
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You must be desperate to defend providing graphically detailed teen porn to K-5 kids.
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@raphjd No, you're the one that started talking about elementary schools. If you go back and read the original news article, it was talking about a Karen filing suit because the book was located in a high school. This elementary school tangent is yours and yours alone.
My point in the above quotes is that content related to sex does not make a book pornographic. It might make it inappropriate for elementary school children, but not pornographic. The material is perfectly appropriate in high schools, but its homophobic, conservative, religious Karens trying to get it removed even from locations where it is age-appropriate.
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But it is and was relevant that the graphically detailed teen porn book was not just provided to high schoolers. It was provided to K-12.
Your CNN article failed, intentionally, to mention the full argument, so I had to add the context.
As always with the left, you fail to frame things in their full context, so you don't look so bad.
As I said in the last post on the 1st page of this thread (to someone else), if the book was obscene enough to threaten a mother simply for reading the book out loud at a school board meeting, then it was too obscene for kids to read.
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@raphjd The full "context" is that there is a push within the United States to relax the procedures for removing books from school libraries to make it easier for conservative, homophobic organizations to remove LGBT literature from those libraries. It is a coordinated effort with similar bills being pushed or already passed in several states at once.
The point of the efforts is to keep LGBT issues and representations from being normalized. It is culture warfare aiming at gay erasure.
I know in your personal hierarchy of identity politics, you rank your conservativism above your LGBT identity, so you might be okay with throwing yourself under the bus. But most of the rest of us LGBT people do not like being erased from culture.
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