Straight porn vs gay porn, your thoughts
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I've done the same. My solution is to go to some vintage studios. While the cheese factor comes in, the music and production values can be worse than sad, the guys may be what you've looked for.
Maybe a thread with hot straight porn actors would be useful. Girls are no thrill for me at all, but I can ignore them if the guy is hot.
Yes, women are downgraded and typically placed in frilly slut costumes, generally treated as shallow objects of servitude, and disrespected totally. This is unfortunately a reflection of society's placement of women at a disadvantage. You'd find it worse abroad.
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Have you also seen how ridiculous and degrading most trans movies are?
As-if gay men want to see trans "gyrls" treated like "rg" women in straight porn?
I think (personal opinion) that this is a HUGE part of why the "amateur" porn (OnlyFans, et. al.) is doing so well!
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They are both overly scripted. First they do oral then this position than that position and finally the cum shot.
Nobody has sex like that unless you watch too much porn and think that is what sex really is.
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I've noticed the "ugly guy, attractive girl" thing too. It bothers me. I don't think anyone goes to porn (much less professionally produced, ultra-HD, manufactured on an industrial scale studio porn) for any kind of realness or is under the impression that the people involved actually love each other or anything, but I'm completely unable to suspend my disbelief long enough to watch it. There's a gay studio or two that does it, too, but I just can't stand it and have to turn the video off either way.
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The think the reason straight porn has ugly guys in it is because the men watching don't want to get a boner watching a hot guy.
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I think it's either that, or an issue where the audience (primarily heterosexual and male) feels as if a more attractive man is some sort of competition. I've seen the reverse of this dynamic a few times where a woman I found unattractive was paired with a man I found very attractive, but I don't think that was intentional.
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@geobear40 said in Straight porn vs gay porn, your thoughts:
They are both overly scripted. First they do oral then this position than that position and finally the cum shot.
Amen to that...and in male-male porn, the first guy to suck is almost always the bottom. (It doesn't happen that way in my bedroom.)
@adonismix said in Straight porn vs gay porn, your thoughts:
I think it's either that, or an issue where the audience (primarily heterosexual and male) feels as if a more attractive man is some sort of competition.
I agree. Porn is a business, after all, and the customer base for male-female porn is overwhelmingly male...males who don't want to be threatened by guys with better bodies, bigger cocks, etc.
Conversely, many straight women like male-male porn: They're not as much interested in watching women, but they like watching guys...either solo or paired up.
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@eobox91103 said in Straight porn vs gay porn, your thoughts:
I agree. Porn is a business, after all, and the customer base for male-female porn is overwhelmingly male...males who don't want to be threatened by guys with better bodies, bigger cocks, etc.
Better looking (particularly, in better shape) I can agree to... but bigger cocks? Having 7+ is a de-facto requirement for Str8 porn, and a huge plus in gay porn! Personally, as a guy who isn't hung "in the top 10% of all males" I enjoy seeing "smaller" guys - tho it is annoying when they are ONLY cast as bottoms!
Seth Peterson (Helix) is an example... not a small cock, by any imagination, but not nearly as big as the typical "porn cock" - and in the early days of his Helix run, he was ALWAYS the bottom! Someone there finally woke up, or something, because lately he's been very vers in his scenes with them, and he's CERTAINLY vers in his OF content (with bf Aiden Garcia)
I DO believe that men who watch porn like to think of THEMSELVES as one or the other of the actors, and quite honestly, until you put a ruler up to it, most of us think of ourselves as far more "hung" than the ruler shows.. so those bigger dicks aren't so much a THREAT as a vindication that "my dick is that big too"

Conversely, many straight women like male-male porn: They're not as much interested in watching women, but they like watching guys...either solo or paired up.
I have known MANY straight women who LOVE gay porn - because the guys are hotter, and less violent...
Most women are more into romance vs hard, violent sex...
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@bi4smooth said in Straight porn vs gay porn, your thoughts:
I have known MANY straight women who LOVE gay porn - because the guys are hotter, and less violent...
Most women are more into romance vs hard, violent sex...
I think it's not necessarily about romance so much as it is that depictions of women in straight porn - even "vanilla" straight porn - are so cartoonishly one-dimensional and downright degrading. Everything is ultimately brought back to only what one partner wants, women's desire is portrayed as revolving around whatever gets their male partner off without any consideration for themselves, and if you're a woman watching that, I think it's pretty alienating. Gay porn may not be the most romantic, but at least both partners are usually shown to have their own sexual agency and desires and an interest in mutual pleasure.
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@wolfyboy00 My problem is that my taste is the opposite of what is most popular, and I am into kinky stuff that is already a niche.
Like I am attracted towards men age 45 and above, with feeling grossed out buy younger men just as much as with women. And adults without pubic hair make me want to throw up because of pedovibes I get from hairless body’s and dicks without fur are unaesthetic as fuck. So the „old trolls“ in straight porn are pretty much exactly what I like…unshaved, out of shape, not trying to look as hot as possible, while the twinks and hunks in gay porn all look like Ken.And, the straight spanking movies are way more my style, since they most of the time have a plot, and they work a lot more with humiliation, like waiting in exposed positions, get punished in front of other people who suddenly end up making a punishment contest and get creative with enemas and stuff. And the only way to enjoy the strict male principal getting his bare ass beaten is in femdom movies.
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Definitely. Funny thing is the ugly guy/hot girl is how i started to figure out i was gay. I thought i couldnt get it because the guy was turning me off. So i tried lesbian porn but that didnt cut it either. But the so called female friendly porn category was great because they actually made effort on picking a good looking guy and showing him off. Took me a while but eventually the realization i was gay hit me like a brick and now here we are :D.
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