Why is everything new being deleted from the "Fan Sites" category?

massafera

@therock07 GTRU should make the website more anonymous. I'm sure there are options that can be done. If they will do it I don't know...

massafera

@rnd256 said in Why is everything new being deleted from the "Fan Sites" category?:

Part of the popularity of GTRU is that much of its torrents are publicly available, which is a double-edged sword. If something is public on Google, that means the torrents can be found by porn fiends AND automated bots.

GTRU is one of the biggest gay porn torrent (maybe the largest?). If OnlyFans or performers or their paid DMCA representatives were to repeatedly infringing sites, this would be it.

I'm not personally privy to the software behind the automated monitoring methods, but they likely utilize a combination of simple text and image scanning. Some basic obfuscation methods will usually beat the monitoring:

Word obfuscation: R3n0 G01d vs Reno Gold
Image obfuscation: flip or rotate the image

Some other thoughts:

There are categories that are more high-risk for copyright violations than others (like Fansites). I don't know if the torrent site is capable of it, but maybe the site could make certain categories (like Fansites) private and only viewable by members?

I agree that the torrents should NOT be publicly available.

And Fansites category should be more protected and hidden. Also instruct uploaders to edit the preview images before uploading them and edit the title of the torrent, videos, description etc... If nothing changes then well, I don't see the point of keeping an FS category.

massafera

This "N/A" company is the one deleting the OF Videos from Gaytorrent.ru. GTRU it's their biggest target.

Request: 12943641, Date: Nov 19, 2021
Specified domain: gaytor.rent
URLs requested to be delisted: 269
https://transparencyreport.google.com/copyright/request/12943641

Request: 12890732, Date: Nov 13, 2021
Specified domain: gaytor.rent
URLs requested to be delisted: 87
https://transparencyreport.google.com/copyright/request/12890732

Request: 12731605, Date: Oct 25, 2021
Specified domain: gaytor.rent
URLs requested to be delisted: 372
https://transparencyreport.google.com/copyright/request/12731605

"Rulta OU", another DMCA takedown company, seems to be hired by individual models, but they are only a few models taking their torrents out of GTRU. This N/A company seems to be the problem.

They request URLs to be delisted, so why not hide GTRU from google search mechanisms?

PS: All this information I posted here is publicly available and part of Google Transparency, therefore I'm not doing anything wrong by sharing it here for you all to see.

RyanRility

@raphjd I have raised it before without reply but still wondering: would you consider stopping google (or bots) from indexing gt.ru?It is literally one click away since the site is already on cloudflare, and I think it may very much prevent/decrease DMCA bots by a huge amount. The downside is that it would bring the site to the private side for a bit, which should not be a huge problem.

eobox91103

@massafera There is another LGBT torrent site (something.org...I won't mention the name) that is not publicly accessible, and has lots of torrents from sources that send takedowns to gt.ru. As a member of that site I have no problem using it. Whatever they're doing should be done here.

RyanRility

As the transparencyreport.google.com data, g-org and g-net respectively receive 1 and 2 take-downs in 2021, while gt.ru got 32 in this November . I believe stopping search engine indexing would be a major step.

RyanRility

@raphjd since site is already hosted on cloudflare, it should be as easy as one click

please forward it to the site owner for consideration

massafera

@eobox91103 Yes I agree! Specially now that we had access to this info. If there's at least one admin reading this, please reply to this thread and contact the site owner explaining the issue, so they can take this into consideration.

Marshy

It's possible it's just Rulta. Gay for Fans usually receives takedowns within minutes. They get ignored because I don't accept takedowns from bots and half the time they want random pages such as category or search results taken down.

raphjd

@ryanrility

I am just an admin, not the site owner.

RyanRility

@raphjd is @Joker the site owner?

raphjd

@ryanrility said in Why is everything new being deleted from the "Fan Sites" category?:

@raphjd is @Joker the site owner?

Correct

massafera

@marshy Based on what Google Transparency shows, Rulta's takedown requests are usually made by specific models that hire their services (at least when it comes to GTRU), But this "N/A" anonymous company is asking to remove hundreds of torrents every few days, which coincides with, well, hundreds of torrents being removed from the Fans Sites category.

massafera

@raphjd Can you take this to @Joker ? We would appreciate it.

Ricosmare

Agreed on hiding search results from google and anywhere outside gtru, hopefully that can be achieved and the accounts reporting content kicked off.

dorftimbre

@massafera oh yes ive noticed that. that company has been so busy sending out dmca takedowns across numerous websites.. thisisnt even their main target. its the chicks of course. but everyday i get a message of another dmca takedown. sometimes its several posts , i dont think ill ever upload here again. i have so many onlyfans rips i cant upload anywhere.

krad3434

Yeah we're more or less at critical mass, some things are being deleted that aren't even OF related lol. If there goal is to report so much people upload less, its probably working.

dilemmax

Has something changed in the past few hours? I noticed some fan site torrents are staying alive a lot longer than normal.

Mabbo

@dilemmax I haven't noticed the same but, at a guess: it's Thanksgiving. Perhaps whoever is working to submit DMCA notices has a couple of days off.

bi4smooth

@mabbo said in Why is everything new being deleted from the "Fan Sites" category?:

@dilemmax I haven't noticed the same but, at a guess: it's Thanksgiving. Perhaps whoever is working to submit DMCA notices has a couple of days off.

I have mentioned before (though it is far too early to tell if this is the case yet), but these things tend to ebb and flow...

Not too long ago, Corbin Fisher's parent company was actively pursuing both seeders and leechers of their content - in court! These days, they don't even DMCA their content much... they accept the torrent "losses" as part of the business model, and I suspect OF will come to the same conclusion eventually as well...