Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025
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@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
@bi4smooth Again, nobody cares about your opinion, and to add, nobody cares about your feelings. Sorry. Big Pharma is a disgusting institution that you THINK is run by scientists, but have corporate boards, which you just don't get. You just don't get it.
If getting it means I have to live my life in fear of all the evils you have articulated over the past weeks (much less months), then I'm happy to live in oblivion...
Like I said: your life - as you describe it - really sucks.
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@bi4smooth Yes, you are oblivious. To all the crimes that Pharma has been CONVICTED of. I don't care if you "want" to believe it or not or if it sounds like poopoo.
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@hubrys said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
So, you guys are full-on anti-vax retarded, then?
I love your version of "discussion". Name call and bolt.
Typical liberal.
I know you just listen to whatever your favorite liberal "news" personality tells you without ever actually looking for yourself because that's what liberals do.
There are links in this section to CDC and WHO pages that show there are some problems. We, not the liberals, have linked to them. You ass clowns just call us names and run away without ever looking at the evidence by the very scientists you demand we listen to.
It's like how the WHO says that no one under 18 is supposed to get any of the current vaccines. The CDC, however, says that anyone 12 and over should have them.
It's also like how we found out, not through public announcements, but through data buried in reports, that mostly young males (namely those under 35) are having heart problems due to the vaccines.
BTW, I'm fully vaccinated. So go fuck yourself and your ignorant liberal bullshit. Stop getting your "truth" from sniffing Pelosi's panties or watching AOC's Instagram.
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Our resident fake conservative, like his liberal brethren, loves to ignore the science while calling us science deniers.
They refuse to believe the very scientists they demand we believe. The CDC and the WHO have both reported, though not outwardly publically, that people born with penises have a pretty high chance to get heart problems from any of the current vaccines. This is especially true for those under 35.
People born with vaginas are far less likely to have heart problems from the vaccines.
It's all in the WHO and CDC reports and liberals and fake conservatives deny it, because the only science they like is the science that fits their liberal, cultural marxist agenda.
Let's not forget how their side scare-mongered the vaccines while Trump was in office, with no evidence to back them up.
But we are science deniers for using WHO and CDC official documents.
We live in a liberal fucking clown world.
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@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
https://principia-scientific.com/most-who-took-covid-vaccines-will-be-dead-by-2025/
This "principia-scientific" website is a festering swamp of baseless conspiracy theories. No educated person takes it seriously. The linked article, which is unsigned, does not have any credible references. It lists some web domains, but no links to papers.
I expect you to reject any scientist who doesn't tell you what you want to hear, it's human nature.
No, it's the reaction of dogmatic non-thinkers. We have examples of that in this thread.
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@eobox91103 According to who? You? And who are you? Are you an expert on anything? Thanks for your opinion.
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@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
@eobox91103 According to who? You? And who are you? Are you an expert on anything? Thanks for your opinion.
As to the quality (or lack thereof) of the "principia-scientifica" domain, you could look at https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ . You will also be able find a host of other garbage-quality conspiracy theory websites that you will likely enjoy.
As to the lack of references in the article you link, you can see that by clicking on the link.
As to dogmatic non-thinkers in this thread (and many others), you can likely find that on your won.
(As for who I am, and my areas of expertise, it is established net etiquette that a person asking questions of another answer those questions themself first. Ergo, your turn. But you needn't bother; I don't care who you are, and I doubt that you have any areas of expertise.)
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@eobox91103 Right, so you don't believe the inventor of the mRNA, the inventor of the PCR test, or the former Vice President of Pfizer, all saying the same thing. Because those guys are clearly conspiracy theorists. Just for starters!
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@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
@eobox91103 Right, so you don't believe the inventor of the mRNA, the inventor of the PCR test, or the former Vice President of Pfizer, all saying the same thing. Because those guys are clearly conspiracy theorists. Just for starters!
Please provide references for these. They were not in the anonymous article you linked in the first post.
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@eobox91103 Yes, the inventor of mRNA was cited in the article, for one. You think HE'S a CONSPIRACY NUT? HMMM? I don't think so, and he echoes what the former VP of Pfizer said, as well as the inventor of the PCR test. It's all singing to the same tune, and you are playing ignorant because it doesn't fit your belief system.
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@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
@eobox91103 Yes, the inventor of mRNA was cited in the article, for one. You think HE'S a CONSPIRACY NUT? HMMM? I don't think so, and he echoes what the former VP of Pfizer said, as well as the inventor of the PCR test. It's all singing to the same tune, and you are playing ignorant because it doesn't fit your belief system.
PLEASE learn to read. There was no reference to a source. For a web page to assert something without any backup doesn't count. Show me an reference.
But you can't. You're the one with the fixed (i.e., broken) belief system who doesn't believe in fact.
Responding to your trash posts is a fucking waste of time.
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@eobox91103 A name IS a source. All you have to do is look up the inventor of the PCR test, to start. But you're too lazy or too lame to be capable of that apparently.
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@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
@eobox91103 A name IS a source. All you have to do is look up the inventor of the PCR test, to start. But you're too lazy or too lame to be capable of that apparently.
. "Donald Trump says all cows are purple."
. "George Bush says pickle ice cream is poisonous."You will, of course, believe these, because with names in those two statements, you have sources.
See how silly your argument is? Now here's a challenge: Try responding intelligently.
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@eobox91103 His name is Kary Mullis you asshole. He INVENTED the PCR test. Now here is where you stop responding because I destroy you. Kary Mullis said that his invention (the Polymerase Chain Reaction) will show that 100% of humans will test positive for EBOLA, or ANY molecule that exists on Earth. This is WHY the CDC finally admitted that over 90% of the PCR tests showing positive for Covid were FALSE. Because it's run by cycles (magnifications under a microscope by the trillions of magnifications). You simply take a sample of a cell and it shows other molecules (all of them when you magnify it high enough). It does not mean that you "HAVE" Covid, you moron. It simply is an example of the Buddhist philosophy that all is one, and all is contained within all. This is just for starters. The inventor of the PCR test, which is used by Fauci to claim all these people are positive and there is a Pandemic is bullshit. A PCR test will show that you have a molecule of Nickel, does that mean that there is a Nickel poisoning epidemic? No. You clearly don't like to actually listen to the scientists, because you obviously have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. You just don't agree with science because Orange Man Bad.
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@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
@eobox91103 His name is Kary Mullis you asshole. He INVENTED the PCR test. Now here is where you stop responding because I destroy you. Kary Mullis said that his invention (the Polymerase Chain Reaction) will show that 100% of humans will test positive for EBOLA, or ANY molecule that exists on Earth. This is WHY the CDC finally admitted that over 90% of the PCR tests showing positive for Covid were FALSE. Because it's run by cycles (magnifications under a microscope by the trillions of magnifications). You simply take a sample of a cell and it shows other molecules (all of them when you magnify it high enough). It does not mean that you "HAVE" Covid, you moron. It simply is an example of the Buddhist philosophy that all is one, and all is contained within all. This is just for starters. The inventor of the PCR test, which is used by Fauci to claim all these people are positive and there is a Pandemic is bullshit. A PCR test will show that you have a molecule of Nickel, does that mean that there is a Nickel poisoning epidemic? No. You clearly don't like to actually listen to the scientists, because you obviously have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. You just don't agree with science because Orange Man Bad.
You simply don't get it.
Unlike you, I'm willing to research things, and even change my mind, if I have reason to do so. Your assertions in this forum with no reference or cited sources. I'm not going to believe the rantings of a crazed lunatic.
I am not an asshole. You are. And you prove it almost every day. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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@eobox91103 Oh, I'm only QUOTING the INVENTOR of the PCR test. What are your credentials again? Did you INVENT anything? "I invented Froot Loop ice cream when I was twelve." This is the INVENTOR of the PCR test, and you are saying that I'm a conspiracy theorist... You're dumb. Ok, bye.
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@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
@eobox91103 Oh, I'm only QUOTING the INVENTOR of the PCR test. What are your credentials again? Did you INVENT anything? "I invented Froot Loop ice cream when I was twelve." This is the INVENTOR of the PCR test, and you are saying that I'm a conspiracy theorist... You're dumb. Ok, bye.
Are you really as stupid as you seem? I'm asking for a REFERENCE. Let me spell that for you, asshole: R-E-F-E-R-E-N-C-E. If you got that material from a reliable source, provide a link to that source. Having something written in this forum without any substantiation is worthless.
You obviously have no respect for fact, probably because your tiny little brain can't hold them. It's absolutely useless trying to discuss anything with you.
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@eobox91103 Are you fucking kidding? The INVENTOR of the PCR test said that you will test positive for EVERYTHING. You are the one who isn't getting basic common sense.
EDIT: removed excessive profanity - raphjd
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@manhandler said in Terrible News for the Vaxxed: by 2025:
His name is Kary Mullis you asshole. He INVENTED the PCR test. Now here is where you stop responding because I destroy you. Kary Mullis said that his invention (the Polymerase Chain Reaction) will show that 100% of humans will test positive for EBOLA, or ANY molecule that exists on Earth. This is WHY the CDC finally admitted that over 90% of the PCR tests showing positive for Covid were FALSE. Because it's run by cycles (magnifications under a microscope by the trillions of magnifications). You simply take a sample of a cell and it shows other molecules (all of them when you magnify it high enough). It does not mean that you "HAVE" Covid, you moron. It simply is an example of the Buddhist philosophy that all is one, and all is contained within all. This is just for starters. The inventor of the PCR test, which is used by Fauci to claim all these people are positive and there is a Pandemic is bullshit. A PCR test will show that you have a molecule of Nickel, does that mean that there is a Nickel poisoning epidemic? No. You clearly don't like to actually listen to the scientists, because you obviously have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. You just don't agree with science because Orange Man Bad.
First, you don't understand what Kary Mullis was saying when he made the comments you are misconstruing. Kary Mullis was an HIV-denier, i.e., he did not believe that HIV caused AIDS. He was essentially answering the question: "If doctors are using PCR techniques and finding HIV in AIDS patients, then doesn't that mean that HIV is causing AIDS." He's answer, which you are incorrectly paraphrasing is basically, "Someone who has been promiscuous enough to get the retrovirus HIV in them (which is only within a very small subset of humans), then they have probably got a whole lot of other sexually transmitted diseased in them as well. Just because PCR can be used to replicate a lot of the HIV in the patient doesn't mean it isn't any one of the other viruses or bacteria also present in the AIDS patient. You can use PCR to replicate any DNA present in the AIDS patient."
This is the link to the YouTube video of Mullis saying what has been misconstrued: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc0Kysti6Kc](link url)
Here's the Irish press disproving manhandler's version of Mullis's quote: [https://www.thejournal.ie/kary-mullis-pcr-testing-factcheck-debunk-hse-5271830-Nov2020/](link url)
Second, you clearly don't understand how PCR works. It isn't cycles of increasingly smaller and smaller magnifications or whatever bullshit you were saying. PCR works by heating up genetic material, which causes the double-helixes to denature and separate. DNA is proteins. Heat makes proteins denature. That's why when you crack an egg (full of protein) into your frying pan, the clear fluid quickly becomes white and opaque. That's the proteins in the egg denaturing.
Then the material is cooled and chemicals are used to make the newly split two halves of the DNA (split apart by the heating step above) to couple with free nucleotides (the proteins making up DNA) in the solution. So, basically, you started with one strand of DNA. Split it apart so that it reformed into two identical DNA helixes. Then you heat it up again, which splits those two helixes apart. Cool down and now you have 4 helixes of DNA. Heat again, cool again....now you have 8 helixes of DNAs. Eventually, you will have enough DNA that the pile of it becomes observable to the lab technician (you see, DNA is VERY tiny, and most labs don't have electron microscopes to see things that small.)
Basically, assume you want to see what color a single piece of hay is in the field across the street from you. The single strand of hay is too small laying somewhere out in that field for you to see. But imagine if you could make that strand of hay duplicate itself over and over again until it was the size of a bale of hay. Then you can see it from your window. That's PCR.
Finally, in regard to your reliance upon statements of the "inventor of mRNA," you must be talking about Dr. R.W. Malone, the disputed discoverer of nanoparticals could transfect mRNA into cells. I find it funny that you anti-vax people will rail against "Big Pharma" and castigate its science because it is profit-driven, yet you readily hitch your wagon to Malone, who with his partner, run several research and pharmaceutical manufacturing ventures trying to sell generic drugs as treatments for COVID. Chiefly, they're trying to push Ivermectin (a ringworm medicine used mostly in horses) and Famotidine (a histamine-2 in Pepcid products) as COVID cures.....read: hydroxychloroquine: the sequel.
The TL:DR of it all: Manhandler is full of shit and doesn't know what he's talking about.
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@hubrys Do you remember when Merck released VIOXX? A drug that killed 100K People? Their own scientists TOLD THEM that it would kill 100K. And they did it anyway. Because they only had to pay back 4 million in reparations, when they made 4 billion in profits? Do you remember that? The head of the FDA was there for 30 years, and he blew the whistle on them in court. You want to TRUST pharmaceutical companies? The ones like Johnson and Johnson who recently lost a court battle over drugging America and said they would stop? You're stupid. You're a corporate blowhard trying very hard to make pharmaceutical companies look good, after they deliberately murdered hundreds of thousands of people, and you TRUST them. It's pathetic and dumb.
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