Where is the Conservative Outrage?
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@bi4smooth You are being ridiculous. There has been atleast five documentaries about it. And you're pretending that it's all completely nonexistant. You are a gaslighter. There is so much proof that the democrats sent 100 lawyers to Arizona. Why not just say, "Ok... look at the ballots... they're all legit." You're not fooling anyone with your little word magic.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth You are being ridiculous. There has been atleast five documentaries about it. And you're pretending that it's all completely nonexistant. You are a gaslighter. There is so much proof that the democrats sent 100 lawyers to Arizona. Why not just say, "Ok... look at the ballots... they're all legit." You're not fooling anyone with your little word magic.
Ummm... the only people allowed to touch the ballots in AZ are Trumpsters (not even actual Republicans dispute the Arizona results - they'd already done a REAL audit!)
If Trump were the target here, he's use his favorite phrase...
It's a witch hunt!
Facts don't matter to you... the messaging does... anything that supports the message "Trump really won" must be true, and anything that doesn't support that message must be false, misleading, and evil.
In other words... Nationalist Fascism...
Hail Trump!
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@bi4smooth Yea right, the entire audit is being recorded 24/7, the most transparent audit ever. When election night was going on, they boarded up the windows so people couldn't look inside, and then they are on camera pulling ballots out from under the table in suitcases, then Biden won. What a joke.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth Yea right, the entire audit is being recorded 24/7, the most transparent audit ever. When election night was going on, they boarded up the windows so people couldn't look inside, and then they are on camera pulling ballots out from under the table in suitcases, then Biden won. What a joke.
You should stop for a minute and lookup the definition of "audit"... what they're doing is more akin to a REAL "Witch Hunt" than an audit!
Again, even the REAL Republicans in AZ are calling this a farce! You'd think you could keep your own party in line if there was a hint of legitimacy!
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@bi4smooth No, the Republicans were in control and allowed these machines. They simply don't want that fact out. It is what it is. Don't act like I'm being stabbed in the back by someone I already knew was a traitor. I didn't vote for that jackass. You act like when a Republican is busted for being a two faced hypocrite that it's worse than when a Democrat does it.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth No, the Republicans were in control and allowed these machines. They simply don't want that fact out. It is what it is. Don't act like I'm being stabbed in the back by someone I already knew was a traitor. I didn't vote for that jackass. You act like when a Republican is busted for being a two faced hypocrite that it's worse than when a Democrat does it.
No, but I don't think massive numbers of Republican Secretaries of State all over the country colluded to "steal" the election from Trump, either!
Will there be discrepancies? Sure! Will they exceed 1%? Unlikely... indeed, I think that's what the delay is... they can't find ENOUGH "wiggle room" to make it so that Trump actually wins! LOL - and they'll keep on looking until the money runs out! Nothing like a bunch of lawyers to burn through money until it's ALL gone! Just ask anyone whose ever been in a DIVORCE! LOL
Personally, I think it was aliens... I think the AZ re-counters should be looking for non-human DNA on those ballots!
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@jsl76 Well that's what's being reported. So I am willing to bet it's true because this source is usually accurate. You wanna make a bet? Who wants to make a bet!? Let's make this a casino! 100 dollars if I'm right, to me, from you. Make it 1,000. I bet you 1K$ that 30K fake ballots were discovered in Georgia.
No, it's not "being reported," unless you count the breathless repeating of conspiracy hypotheses to be a "report."
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@bi4smooth No that's ridiculous. You clearly don't understand what's going on. They are looking at 2.1 million votes. It takes time.
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@manhandler And will they exceed 1%? They already exceeded 17.5%, but double digits or not, 1% fraud should be looked at and dealt with. 17.5% is the number of ballots more found in a box labelled with 17% less. So a pallet of ballots said there was 500 ballots in it but there was 650. Do you get it? 17.5% off. Double digit fraud, not just 1%. Get used to it. We are not going to let this go.
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@bi4smooth said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@jsl76 said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
Flynn himself repudiates what's been ascribed to him: https://news.yahoo.com/michael-flynn-denies-suggesting-myanmar-220150348.html
Flynn says he didn't mean it - and I trust him in that (though if you watch the video, there isn't much to walk back... which is to say, he doesn't give himself much "wiggle room"... he's pretty blatantly calling for a military coup!)...
My outrage isn't so much with him (tho it is to a lesser extent), it is with the crowd's reaction - in full, enthusiastic support of a military coup because they lost an election!
I'm using this term in another topic, but it's apropos here as well - this is Nationalist Fascism! \
Self-delusional, and dangerous!
Have you ever actually attended a political rally? I have. I'm a member of my county's GOP executive committee in Michigan. When the crowd gets riled up, you could literally yell "hot dogs made from aborted babies cause hemorrhoids" and the people would be like, "right on, right on." Left or Right. I don't get worked up about what happens in political theater. Half the time, no one knows what they're cheering about, anyway.
"Nationalist fascism" is redundant. Fascism is, by definition, nationalist. But if you think the GOP is fascist, you're on crack. Apart from a handful of legit neo-Nazi groups on the far fringes, there's no fascism in the U.S. Abusing the term for political shits and giggles is morally reprehensible and intellectually dishonest.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@manhandler And will they exceed 1%? They already exceeded 17.5%, but double digits or not, 1% fraud should be looked at and dealt with. 17.5% is the number of ballots more found in a box labelled with 17% less. So a pallet of ballots said there was 500 ballots in it but there was 650. Do you get it? 17.5% off. Double digit fraud, not just 1%. Get used to it. We are not going to let this go.
And because of this rank idiocy, the GOP is going to take a beating in 2022. I blame you fucking conspiracy whackjobs for the loss of two Georgia Senate seats and all the ridiculousness that this country will have to endure because of it.
THERE WAS NO MEANINGFUL ELECTION FRAUD IN THE 2020 ELECTION. Lies to the contrary hurt the conservative cause and empower progressive governance.
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@jsl76 said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@jsl76 said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
Flynn himself repudiates what's been ascribed to him: https://news.yahoo.com/michael-flynn-denies-suggesting-myanmar-220150348.html
Flynn says he didn't mean it - and I trust him in that (though if you watch the video, there isn't much to walk back... which is to say, he doesn't give himself much "wiggle room"... he's pretty blatantly calling for a military coup!)...
My outrage isn't so much with him (tho it is to a lesser extent), it is with the crowd's reaction - in full, enthusiastic support of a military coup because they lost an election!
I'm using this term in another topic, but it's apropos here as well - this is Nationalist Fascism! \
Self-delusional, and dangerous!
Have you ever actually attended a political rally? I have. I'm a member of my county's GOP executive committee in Michigan. When the crowd gets riled up, you could literally yell "hot dogs made from aborted babies cause hemorrhoids" and the people would be like, "right on, right on." Left or Right. I don't get worked up about what happens in political theater. Half the time, no one knows what they're cheering about, anyway.
"Nationalist fascism" is redundant. Fascism is, by definition, nationalist. But if you think the GOP is fascist, you're on crack. Apart from a handful of legit neo-Nazi groups on the far fringes, there's no fascism in the U.S. Abusing the term for political shits and giggles is morally reprehensible and intellectually dishonest.
Nazi Fascism was also Nationalist... true, and while the Nazi's were also a cult of personality focused on the infallibility of Hitler, I don't put Trump in the same boat as Hitler (Honestly, Hitler was smarter - politically - and more ruthless).
I do not believe the Republican Party is Fascist - at least not MY Republican Party! (Yes, I'm a registered Republican)... but that doesn't mean Trump himself - and his followers - aren't Fascists...
But there is a difference between Nationalist Fascism and simple Fascism... and Trump meets the definition of the former... to a T!
Also, I've been to many a political rally, and yes I've been at rallys where a speaker said something stupid and the crowd initially started to cheer - but then pulled back. There was no pull-back at Flynn's speach... indeed, when some participants were interviewed afterwards and asked if they supported the idea of a Military Coup against the US Government, the most common reply was akin to "Yes, if it'll get President Trump back into power!" - that's scary... and not in a halloween or roller-coaster kind of scary... that's "there's a bomb on the plane" scary!
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@jsl76 Well I disagree with you, and you have made up your mind before the audit even reveals it's results.
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@bi4smooth "Yes if it'll get Trump back into office." Is your delusional... propaganda... to put a false assumption in the minds of the people. You are engaging in disinformation. You are putting words in people's mouths, which is ok to a degree if the way you're interpreting it is correct. But the way you interpret it is not. You're just wrong.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth "Yes if it'll get Trump back into office." Is your delusional... propaganda... to put a false assumption in the minds of the people. You are engaging in disinformation. You are putting words in people's mouths, which is ok to a degree if the way you're interpreting it is correct. But the way you interpret it is not. You're just wrong.
Yup - the German media (who is following this mess) altered the video of the people being interviewed!
Of course, they're colluding with the Democrats and other elected Republicans to make Trump look bad... yeah... that's the ticket!
This is why the playbooks from the 1930's won't work in the long run today... it's not just about what people say happened... it's on video!
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@bi4smooth Can you demonstrate what you just stated in more detail so that we can fact check it ourselves?
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth Can you demonstrate what you just stated in more detail so that we can fact check it ourselves?
Start reading non-US news accounts... Try some of these:
- http://www.dw.com (German)
- http://www/bbc.com (British)
- http://www.abc.net.au (Australia)
I also read translated news from the Middle East and Japan...
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@bi4smooth No you need to put it in your own words.
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@manhandler said in Where is the Conservative Outrage?:
@bi4smooth No you need to put it in your own words.
You're too lazy to actually read what I write anyway... you've proven that over multiple threads!
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@bi4smooth And you've proven over multiple messages that you aren't discussing the topic, that there was a double digit fraudulent count of ballots. When a pallet of ballots says there are 500 ballots inside this box, and there's only 350, or there's 650, something is off, and your side sent hundreds of lawyers to shut down finding out what exactly was "off." Why it was 650 instead of 500. "We need to shut that down." No. We are not going to stop until we find out WHY. So get over it.
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