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    Freeleech is not freeleech.

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      xrx660
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      Over the last few days, I've noticed that as I download freeleech torrents to boost the number of things being seeded, not only has the ratio not improved, it's gotten worse.

      From "you need to upload another 700GB" to "you need to upload another 900GB", when there's only a single non-freeleech torrent in that time (and it was a relatively small one from the homepage, so should have been high traffic and contribute back quite quickly).

      Something is very wrong with this tracker.

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        jsl76
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        FWIW, I never bother with freeleech because 100 percent of the time, my traffic/ratio acts as if the torrent weren't freeleech.

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          eobox91103 @jsl76
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          @jsl76 said in Freeleech is not freeleech.:

          FWIW, I never bother with freeleech because 100 percent of the time, my traffic/ratio acts as if the torrent weren't freeleech.

          I haven't tracked this as closely as you have, perhaps because with my new internet provider my ratio is now comfortable. But if what you say is indeed true (and I have no reason to doubt you), it would be a disappointment to many members.

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            raphjd Forum Administrator
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            Freeleech (as in the download part) has a fixed amount of time as set by the person making it freeleech.

            As an example; when I make a torrent freeleech for 24 hours, it is free to download without changing your download rate for exactly 24 hours from the time I set it as such. It doesn't matter when you download the torrent file. If you are still downloading the video when freeleech ends, you only get charged for the data after that.

            Uploading data, freeleech or not, always counts toward your ratio.

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              jsl76 @raphjd
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              @raphjd Yes, I understand how the system works. But what I'm saying is that active freeleeches always count against my download rate even while the freeleech period is open. I've never seen the D/L rate stay the same and the U/L rate increase on a freeleech, ever.

              If you want, I can take screenshots of the phenomenon.

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                raphjd Forum Administrator @jsl76
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                @jsl76

                If you could post screenies, that would be great.

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                  xrx660 @jsl76
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                  @jsl76 100% this. The download ratio is always harmed by freeleech. The tracker treats it as if it is not freeleech, and it is absolutely nothing to do with how long it is marked as freeleech by the seedbonus contributor - whether it's 24 hours or 10 days, it will always count as download ratio.

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                    jsl76 @xrx660
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                    @raphjd

                    Eeeenteresting. I just did an elaborate experiment where I screenshot my on-site stats, cleared my totals and seeding torrents in uTorrent, grabbed five freeleech torrents, then let it run for a while. The on-site stats correctly credited the uploads and did not increment the downloads -- in other words, everything performed exactly as it should have.

                    So either things magically fixed themselves recently, or (much more likely) I paid insufficient attention to the stats earlier when I concluded that freeleech wasn't working.

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                      xrx660 @jsl76
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                      This morning, I downloaded a 12GB freeleech torrent with 10.66TB downloaded. I have no other torrents at all downloading, from any tracker. Right now, though the ratio has improved slightly (I specifically picked a popular large one that I knew would move the numbers), the number has changed to 10.67TB downloaded - exactly what would happen if a > 10 GB file were downloaded. Freeleech files clearly count towards quota.

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                        xrx660
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                        And now two days later with nothing downloading (all seeding) it's 10.69TB downloaded. So it seems the tracker is adding "ghost downloads" to force ratios down. Why should we bother trying to keep a ratio up when the tracker is forcing it down? This is like swimming upstream.

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