This Is Such Bullsh*t
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Liberals love cancel culture until it hits them.
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@anythingold You talk about people minding their own business but this was tweeted out, this is as public as it gets, so that doesn't wash an excuse for her behaviour. She knew what she posted online would be seen around the world and still did it and just because your opinion differs to that of a significant number of people out there doesn't mean theirs is wrong.
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@nipnip360 said in This Is Such Bullsh*t:
@anythingold You talk about people minding their own business but this was tweeted out, this is as public as it gets, so that doesn't wash an excuse for her behaviour. She knew what she posted online would be seen around the world and still did it and just because your opinion differs to that of a significant number of people out there doesn't mean theirs is wrong.
Also discussing Holocaust denial is nothing more then whataboutery.There's a difference between tweeting what I consider news (because it actually happened), and the people that went as fare as tweeting the studios demanding her fairing! That's the part that requires those people to mind their business! None of those people can through any stones! For real. Most people have said something that was unknowingly despicable. It's part of being human. Some people learn from it, some people don't. But unless something is said personally against someone, they should mind their business. This is the kind of shit that the "Me Too Movement" is doing. They have the power to blacklist you for saying anything they deem offensive. These actions are childish, and they need to go suck a cock.
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I mean, consequences right? We all have controversial opinions about something but we have to know that if we say out loud, we gonna get reactions, and it's not always gonna be someone agreeing with you. I think she forgot that.
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Unless someone says something really unforgivably sick, like Hitler should have exterminated all Jews, I think they should have ignored it and moved on. Because from personal experience, Black people have said things far worse to each other in public. Gays have suffered a lot worse verbal attacks by homophobic straights. We really need to learn not to be so reactionary. There are far worse shit to worry about. Like getting rid of this damn virus before it exterminates the entire planet.
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@anythingold So, it's okay for her to say what she said because it didn't offend you?
By the way, that is exactly how it works. You choose to spew garbage and people are free to call you out on it. When you are hired by a company and paid the kind of money she was getting paid, you have a responsibility. She's allowed to have her opinions, but it would not have cost a damn thing for her to keep her opinions to herself.
@raphjd You realize cancel culture was created by conservatives, right? From Kathy Griffin to Colin Kaepernick, to Brie Larsen, even as far back as the fucking Dixie Chicks. Conservatives LOVE to destroy property they've already paid for to make a "point".
And the irony is completely lost on these people that are canceling their Disney+ membership. You cancel it because they fired Gina. So you're people should be able to cancel things they disagree with.
Cancel culture is just accountability for adults.
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Cancel culture is a leftist thing, it came as a result of your beloved doxxing.
You "liberals" call people's jobs in order to get them fired. You people don't just cancel celebs, you try to cancel everyday people.
Would you get butt hurt if I "cancelled" you for spewing your liberal garbage on this site? I mean, it would have cost you nothing to keep your opinions to yourself.
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@raphjd Having financially contributed to this site, it feels pretty shitty that you would go as far as to elude to “cancel” me. You don’t support me, I’m not your employee. If you wish to censor me for saying things you disagree with, that says more about you than it does me.
You’re treating this like it’s strictly a liberal thing, when both sides are guilty of cancel culture. It doesn’t matter who started it. What matters is the basis for canceling someone.
I guess I should have just stuck to torrents and not stuck my nose in on the forums.
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@resetsmith said in This Is Such Bullsh*t:
@raphjd Having financially contributed to this site, it feels pretty shitty that you would go as far as to elude to “cancel” me. You don’t support me, I’m not your employee. If you wish to censor me for saying things you disagree with, that says more about you than it does me.
You’re treating this like it’s strictly a liberal thing, when both sides are guilty of cancel culture. It doesn’t matter who started it. What matters is the basis for canceling someone.
I guess I should have just stuck to torrents and not stuck my nose in on the forums.
The reality is, "cancel" culture is something that overwhelmingly comes from the extreme left. The democratic party are masters of brainwashing, thus caused a division in this country we've never seen before. When you match that along with instant belief in anything the left says, it's a recipe for disaster. I think schools should start teaching children early on the concept of "context," and the importance of understanding it before beliefs are formed.
Second, your contribution has absolutely nothing to do with the views of anyone on this site. They're just that, a contribution. The offering of monies does not Entitle you to try persuade how people think and what they say.
Fact check, @raphjd is the only tracker owner (straight or gay, mainstream or mediocre) that allows his members to speak freely. The vast amount of pirate sites out there have staff that operate like "cancel culture," and it pisses me off. They deem almost everything is politically incorrect. They delete shit for the slightest things. That is very important to note, because sometimes there are important information that is content in the posts these "delete happy" mods delete. People need to understand that this is a problem. And thoroughly research what the fuck free speech means! It does not mean to punish someone who says something you don't personally like. This is how propaganda is born.
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I wasn't saying I would ban you. I was just using it as an example based on what you already said.
I'm not the site owner, that would be Joker.
I do have free reign though.
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As has been pointed out, "Cancel Culture" is a societal problem, not a liberal or conservative one...
Liberals have "deployed" cancel culture on certain conservative extremists, and conservatives have done the same to liberals.
Hell, conservatives are "doing it to their own" - right now, with the attempts to oust the Republicans (in some cases [e.g.: Liz Cheney] LEADERS of the party!)... solely because they won't fall in line behind "The Orange Don-ald"!
Part of the problem is that the Internet has given us nearly unlimited capacity to store data - so, for example, there was a CFO who lost his CAREER because he was incensed about hearing that Chick-Fil-A (a chicken fast-food joint in the US) was making corporate statements that were anti-LGBTQ. His (the CFO's) offense? He video'd himself lambasting a Chick-Fil-A drive-thru clerk for working for a hate-filed company. (Damn, the poor girl just wanted a JOB! I'm pretty sure she didn't check the political leanings of the company when she applied for that low-as-shit-wage job!)
So he got some hate mail (ok, deserved)... his COMPANY (employer - he was the CFO of the company) was attacked in the social media: threatened with bomb threats, boycotts, etc, so they fired him. (MAYBE deserved, but only because he was a C**-level employee, and he "represented the company" poorly)... But shit didn't stop there... he got a new job (NOT a C**-level job), but "activists" found out, notified that company, and he was fired again! (NOT cool!) And this repeated for over 5-years! These people would not let the man get and keep a job to support his family?
EDIT: OOPS! To be clear: maybe he should have lost his job for posting the video and identifying himself as the CFO of his employer. NO! His employer should NOT have received bomb threats, etc from social media activists!)
When is enough, enough? In the Internet Age, you cannot outlive your past sins! It's there FOREVER!
Should that nutball lady in Central Park be FOREVER ostracized because she called the cops on the birder in the park - because he was black, and she was scared? (Totally a racist thing - but not unforgivable, and should not be a life-ruining thing!) Even the victim told activists: enough! Leave the poor lady alone!
Should Kevin Hart never work in hollywood again because he made some anti-LGBTQ jokes 10-years ago??? Fuck no! He apologized for it - noting that they were different times - but "cancel culture" wouldn't hear of it! There can be no atonement! He cannot host the Emmy Awards if he - even 10 years ago - made fun of queer people!
BULLSHIT
BUT some of the arguments in this thread are off-base too:
There is no such thing as Speech that is FREE OF CONSEQUENCES!
Speech in America is free of persecution by the Government!
When you call your neighbor a FAG in a street-side argument, and the neighborhood queer kids TP your house that night, your rights weren't violated! You were sent a message - by the local queer kids - and now, you have a 6-month supply of TP! The only problem is: it's in trees!
In America it is legal to believe the Holocaust isn't real. (In Germany, making such a claim is a criminal offense.)
In America telling people your belief that the Holocaust was faked will get you thrown out of a lot of parties, but it won't (at least, not by itself) get you thrown in jail!Thus, "cancel culture" isn't illegal - at least not in America...
But it IS (IMHO) completely amoral and wrong (I know, redundant much?). It's an ugly addition to our culture, and one that history will not remember with any fondness... -
There's a huge difference between wanting politicians out of office and getting random people fired from their jobs.
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@raphjd said in This Is Such Bullsh*t:
There's a huge difference between wanting politicians out of office and getting random people fired from their jobs.
Um... no, there isn't! Their position is their job!
However, there IS a huge difference if you just want to elect someone different in the next election cycle! That's not cancel-culture - that's politics!!!
Agreed that "normal" people don't have to re-interview for their jobs every 2/4/6 years! But that should be enough! Barring serious misconduct, those people (politicians) should be allowed to keep their jobs until their term is completed. (And, if they're re-elected, until THAT term ends!)
Honestly, AOC has said some of the DUMBEST SHIT I've ever heard out of a politician's mouth -- but then, so has Rand Paul! Liz Cheney isn't my favorite Republican MoC, but she's a loyal, thoughtful, conservative LEADER in the House... she shouldn't be "cancelled" because she's realized the "Emperor has no clothes"... If the voters in her district disagree in 2022, she can be retired - just like every other member of the House!
Forcing her to resign because she voted against Trump is Cancel Culture.
Voting her out of office (which I hope they do not do) is politics! -
Your beloved RINOs and swamp monsters wanted to cancel Trump from the very start.
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@raphjd said in This Is Such Bullsh*t:
Your beloved RINOs and swamp monsters wanted to cancel Trump from the very start.
I'll take this example of "what about-ism" as acquiescence to the validity of my earlier point...
However, there are legitimate reasons, from time to time, when politicians should be removed... though it should be rare.
But let's be honest: Conservative Republicans were the first to use impeachment as a political weapon - against Clinton: for the high crime of having an extra-marital affair with a White House intern and lying about it!
Let's review history:
- Johnson was impeached for firing a Secretary of War the other party wanted to keep
- Clinton was impeached for lying about sex in the White House
- Trump was impeached for covering up an attempt to get a foreign leader to interfere with US elections (two things there!)
- Trump was later impeached for Inciting a riot for the purposes of insurrection against the US Government
Of ALL of these things, the Clinton impeachment stands alone in the pages of history as frivolous political nonsense... and it is we Republicans who are to blame for using impeachment for such base, purely political, means... it has (predictably) back-fired on us!
Do I, personally, think Trump should have been removed from office in the FIRST impeachment? No - not really, but he should have "gotten a bigger scare" - MORE Republicans should have voted to remove him, and the vote should have been CLOSE, but not enough to remove him.
Do I, personally, think Trump should have been removed from office (and barred from future office) in the SECOND impeachment: HELL YES!!
Given the precedent the (WE) Republicans have now created, President Biden can, in January 2025, LITERALLY ARREST sufficient members of Congress on January 5th - enough necessary to override the Electoral College's count, throw the election into the House (and Senate), and GUARANTEE that his replacement (assuming is isn't him) is a member of his own Party - as chosen by the remaining MoC... and there isn't SHIT Congress can do about it because he'll be out of office by the time they can try him in the Senate!
The idea that one can resign or otherwise leave office to avoid impeachment is an anathema to the concept as a whole (which comes from British Law!).
One of our Founding Fathers, John Quincy Adams, ca. 1832 - AFTER his term as President - proclaimed on the floor of the House that: “I hold myself, so long as I have the breath of life in my body, amenable to impeachment by this House for everything I did during the time I held any public office.”
Yes, Virginia, there IS impeachment after you have left office!
... and this new precedent is wrong: historically, politically, and logically.
I just pray that, like the "impeachment as a political weapon" has, bite us in the ass a few years down the road! -
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@raphjd I've learned fairly quickly, the leftist will always run frantically in the opposite direction from truth and reality.
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@anythingold said in This Is Such Bullsh*t:
@raphjd I've learned fairly quickly, the leftist will always run frantically in the opposite direction from truth and reality.
Blaming this (or even attributing this) behavior to leftists is like looking at a see-saw and only seeing the guy in the UP position! Extremists on both (to be more correct: ALL) political spectrums use the same tactics (and apologists will always resort to escape clauses like what-about-isms)...
The problem isn't with extreme leftists - it's with extremists of all ilks!!!
The truth is, these extremists learn from each other and duplicate tactics that work for any one of them... When one of them finds something new that works, it doesn't take long for the others to appropriate the methods for their own ends...
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@bi4smooth said in This Is Such Bullsh*t:
Blaming this (or even attributing this) behavior to leftists is like looking at a see-saw and only seeing the guy in the UP position! Extremists on both (to be more correct: ALL) political spectrums use the same tactics (and apologists will always resort to escape clauses like what-about-isms)...
The problem isn't with extreme leftists - it's with extremists of all ilks!!!
The truth is, these extremists learn from each other and duplicate tactics that work for any one of them... When one of them finds something new that works, it doesn't take long for the others to appropriate the methods for their own ends...
I completely disagree. The democratic party are under the spell of communism and socialism. Whatever issues with the republic party, is nothing to what the democrats have done. They're an very, very dangerous party. And what I see now is that the democrats have become equivalent to religion. I now feel the same kind of stress when I try to tell christians that being gay is ok, and that it's perfectly normal. It's impossible to talk with leftists, they can't smell their own shit, and they really believe they have a superior knowledge to anybody else who doesn't think like them. And the fact that democratic voters can't see it, is fucking insane! I still don't know how to process that! And the most disappointing is people of color! Knowing how Blacks have been devastated in ALL democratic cities, how the fuck can you be so trusting of democrats after you've been lied to so many times? Again, this is synonymous with religion I'm sorry to say. It is insanity, doing the same fucking thing, over and over again, expecting different results.
This is will not end well for Black people. 20 years later, the democrats will still blame every misfortune for people of color on Trump, and every dumb ass Black person will believe every stinking word the democrats say, because that's what they've been programmed, just like religion.
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