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    The Lincoln Project and sexual harassment

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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth
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      @bi4smooth

      I never implied that it didn't happen to Obama. All I did was point out that it's extremely hypocritical to whine about it being done to Biden.

      It's also IDIOTIC to call someone treasonous for something that is part of the rules.

      Section 230 abuses are rampant.

      Clearly, you have no idea what the problems are with 230. You choose whether to be a publisher or a platform. If you are a publisher, then you are responsible for the content on your site. If you are a platform, which social media claims to be, then you are not responsible. Social media acts as both.

      If you can find it, Tim Pool was on Joe Rogan with Jack Dorsey and his top legal person. It's explained quite well. Also, in the Congressional hearing on the topic.

      As for Parler and the like, that was big tech collusion. Zuckerberg admitted that they all talk and work together

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        raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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        @gerggently

        Let me guess.

        You view the people that stormed the Capitol as treasonous as well but don't think there was anything wrong with storming the Senate building and trying to storm the Supreme Court during the Kavanaugh hearings.

        And we all know someone like you thinks the summer of love was a good thing.

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          gerggently @raphjd
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          @raphjd

          Yes, and your claims about the Kavanaugh hearings are false.

          This isn't hard.

          It's very easy to say that there was a treasonous, attempted coup, on Jan 6th. If you can't utter that simple fact without engaging in (false) whataboutisms then you simply look like you're a fascist who hates democracy.

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          • raphjdR Offline
            raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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            @gerggently

            Ok, if you say so, dearie.

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              gerggently @raphjd
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              @raphjd

              👍

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                gerggently @raphjd
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                @raphjd said in The Lincoln Project and sexual harassment:

                @bi4smooth

                "You can grab them by the pussy BECAUSE THEY LET YOU"

                I have sex with my husband because he lets me.

                'I just start kissing them, I DON'T EVEN WAIT'

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                  raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                  @gerggently

                  What do you think about the woman Trump talked about in that conversation who led him on so he would buy her a bunch of furniture, despite knowing she wouldn't sleep with him?

                  This is where you give her the pussy pass.

                  Arianne Zucker was there for most of the conversation and she didn't seem offended, but I guess you are offended for her.

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                    bi4smooth @raphjd
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                    @raphjd
                    There is no "choice" under Section 230...

                    If you publish a libelous post about someone, you are responsible! No Section 230 protection!

                    If you provide a platform, and a 3rd party posts libelous content on that platform, you can sue the person who authored the post, but you cannot sue the platform!

                    If you provide a platform, and you post content that is libelous, you have no protection under Section 230 - because you're not a 3rd party!

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                      raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth
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                      @bi4smooth

                      NYT is a publisher. They control what is published, therefore they are liable for what is on their site.

                      Twitter is a platform, so they have no legal liability for what is posted. HOWEVER, they act as a publisher by controlling what is published.

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                        bi4smooth @raphjd
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                        @raphjd
                        Sorry - removing some posts (and protection against suits because of that) is covered under Section 230

                        You are not guaranteed unfettered free speech - ANYWHERE!!
                        Even the Government can limit speech in certain circumstances - but Twitter isn't the Government - and neither are they a monopoly (or even a regulated provider, like your local TV Station! Twitter is not broadcast over public airwaves)...

                        Your (falsely) perceived 1st Amendment right to post your political views on their (privately owned) platform is running head first into their actual right to do whatever they want with their property!

                        NOTE: IF Twitter were to require their editorial approval BEFORE allowing content on their site, THEN they would be a publisher....

                        This ain't that!

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                        • raphjdR Offline
                          raphjd Forum Administrator @bi4smooth
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                          @bi4smooth

                          No duh, the Supreme Court has been clear on free speech.

                          Are you saying I would be totally within my right to ban you and the rest of the swamp monster?

                          Twitter has set rules for what is allowed and what is not allowed, as a publisher would do.

                          Ironically enough, Twitter says kiddie porn doesn't violate their TOS, but saying "but they aren't women, though" does violate their TOS. What does it say about you that you are defending them.

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                            gerggently @raphjd
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                            @raphjd

                            Are you saying that a private company cannot set out ToS for the platform it has created?

                            ToS is not editorialising.

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                              gerggently @raphjd
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                              @raphjd said in The Lincoln Project and sexual harassment:

                              @gerggently

                              What do you think about the woman Trump talked about in that conversation who led him on so he would buy her a bunch of furniture, despite knowing she wouldn't sleep with him?

                              So you admit that Frumpy was messing around with women.

                              This is where you give her the pussy pass.

                              Nope.

                              Arianne Zucker was there for most of the conversation and she didn't seem offended, but I guess you are offended for her.

                              I don't care what Arianne thinks, I know what's on the tape.

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                                gerggently @raphjd
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                                @raphjd said in The Lincoln Project and sexual harassment:

                                @bi4smooth

                                No duh, the Supreme Court has been clear on free speech.

                                Yes, they have, and a private platform setting out ToS is not a free speech issue.

                                Twitter has set rules for what is allowed and what is not allowed, as a publisher would do.

                                Nope, this is ToS, something that the majority of private companies have

                                Ironically enough, Twitter says kiddie porn doesn't violate their TOS, but saying "but they aren't women, though" does violate their TOS. What does it say about you that you are defending them.

                                Why are you lying?

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                                Do ctrl-f

                                TwitterToS - Copy.png

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                                • raphjdR Offline
                                  raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                                  @gerggently

                                  Seems like someone is clueless about what is going on in the world;

                                  https://nypost.com/2021/01/21/twitter-sued-for-allegedly-refusing-to-remove-child-porn/

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                                  • raphjdR Offline
                                    raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                                    Besides the fact that you are such a child that you can't say Trump's name properly, what does it have to do with anything?

                                    You are all butt hurt about how Trumpsupposedly treats women, but you feel it's ok to discount women who don't agree with you.

                                    Typical liberal.

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                                      raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                                      @gerggently said in The Lincoln Project and sexual harassment:

                                      @raphjd

                                      Are you saying that a private company cannot set out ToS for the platform it has created?

                                      ToS is not editorialising.

                                      As I already asked, would I be totally in my rights and you would willingly accept it If I banned you because you are too childish enough to say Trump's name properly?

                                      Nah, you'd whine and we all know it.

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                                        gerggently @raphjd
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                                        @raphjd

                                        Is it against ToS here to not talk about the tangerine terror by name?

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                                          • raphjdR Offline
                                            raphjd Forum Administrator @gerggently
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                                            @gerggently

                                            You have no right to free speech on a private site.

                                            That is your stance.

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