Hundreds of Thousands of Ballots Miraculously Dumped 100% For Biden
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I agree with you.
What really shocks me (and worries me) is that a President of the USA, the oldest democracy in the Western World, can accuse the opposition party of fraud (wouldn’t the Government have all the power to control elections? Who can really think that the opposition party would have more power than the party in the government, controlling all institutions?) WITHOUT any proof… yeah, “some people report…” or “a picture taken (somewhere) shows…”… where are the proofs? If there are so overwhelming proofs that the opposition party, the Democrats, are “stealing the government” (as Trump said yesterday), why most of the judges in the country are not accepting his requests? Is it also a “conspirancy” from the part of the judges?
I mean, Trump has been the King of the fake news during all his 4 years in the Government. Even yesterday Twitter and Facebook were marking his last messages as “fake news”… And still people can support someone who has been lying for 4 years? Shocking…
This is Donald Trump: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-46175024
All of that should, and probably will be reported, but really, like the european guy, I think it's hard to think about fraud in an election, i'm from Chile, not european, not developed nation, but here frauds in elections are really unusual, like in europe and that maybe makes it hard for us to grasp that in the so called best country of the world these things happen.
Also, here at least, we don't hate Trump, but its really shocking to see how many people of such an important country elects a complete ignorant man, that defies science and facts, that acts without listening advice and that shamessly lie, but guess we all have what we deserve, we got a billionare thief here, elected twice, so there's no way i'm criticizing, just amazedThis shows you have no idea what you're talking about. It's not even worth the time trying to explain it to you. Twitter and Facebook are not authorities on truth. Jesus Christ that's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
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I will not waste my time answering rude comments on my personal opinion and point of view.
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Three TV channels stopped broadcasting Trump's conference press when he started to openly lie and accusing everyone but him to cheat in the elections
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Even his friends from the Fox are not following his accusations.
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Many convervative members do not even support Trump
He is left alone with his scandalous try to put into risk the oldest democracy in the Western world.
Just wish that Biden wins more electoral votes than necessary to be the President of the US. I won't be happier than the day Trump is out of the government.
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Because what you were saying is outrageously stupid. Acting like Twitter and Facebook, corporations who sell your private messages to banks and create databases about you, funded by the CIA, are the arbiter of truth. That's moronic.
Trump's claims were not baseless whatsoever. You're a liar. You're lying to yourself. There is OBVIOUSLY something going on. Every other state counted their mail in ballots on election night, and these five states that Trump was winning, just suddenly stopped, and it's four fucking days later. Wake up. To act like there's no such thing as voter fraud is ridiculous and delusional. Nobody actually believes that, therefore, it is self evident that you're a liar.
It was just reported that a glitch in Michigan double counted votes for guess who!? The news of these irregularities in tabulation are pouring out and you're ignorant to all of it because it doesn't fit your belief system. They always "glitch" one way. Quit lying to yourself. Like computers forgot how to add (1 + 1).
Let's see, 100s of 1000s of ballots found at 4 am in three states and 100% Biden. Nothing going on there. GOP poll watchers being told they have to leave the building, others being told to stand 100 feet away. To be able to observe, means to be able to look at it. Not from 100 feet away. This is total bullshit and everyone knows it.
There are dozens of videos. One shows a guy saying thank you California for the seven extra ballots and fills them all out for Biden. Another video shows a guy throwing a bunch of ballots for Trump into a paper bag and lighting it on fire. Another shows an election official actually telling all the counters that votes for Trump are to be destroyed. The voter fraud is a fact, and it's blatant, and if you are going to actually sit there and say it isn't happening then you're just a stupid liar. Period.
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@bc22:
One thing that stood out as a possibility is that Trump's followers were told not to vote via mail/absentee/drop-off and to instead vote at the polls, and they did so.
Those not following Trump and/or worried more about Covid-19 used mail/absentee/drop-off and it is those that were recently (and are being) counted.
President Trump was a huge influence in a lot of his supporters voting in person - they then did exactly that, in most cases.
Covid fears also played a part on this
This + plus the fact that states all count differently (some count mail ins at the end etc) means each side got large quantities of votes counted at once (Trump at start and Biden much later) which led to people falsely saying its rigged/fraudulent etc
Record number of votes were cast.. which I think is amazing BUT just shows why and how tight the race is - people are polarised.. but that is a seperate discussion
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Michigan county clerk found a software glitch that wrongfully gave Biden 6,000 votes. Now the rest of the state will need to do a hand recount.
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MSM and social media said, before the election, that they would not allow Trump to declare victory until it's absolutely proven he won. They did not say the same thing for Biden.
Social media is blocking any talk about the stuff we are talking about here with the dodgy voting. I posted about William Bradley voting even though he's been dead for 36 year and Twitter blocked it and gave me a warning, even though all I did was post a news article link. My cousin sent me the link about the Michigan counting software on FB and she got a warning. She ended up sending it by text message.
Many liberals don't support Biden or Harris. They voted for them simply because they have blind hatred for Trump.
If Trump is evil, then so are all the other people that did the exact same thing or are you a hypocrite.
Your hatred for Trump is blatantly clear.
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Well, obviously I am not in the US, but as we see that from Europe, it is very dangerious to question election results (especially from the current president of the country!) and not to present any proof when they delivered that press conference yesterday (Trump's son and Guliani) in a shocking attitude as if they were actors in a movie…
Again, I am just giving my opinion. I'm not living in the US. Just get from the distance in Europe what is going on there and how harmful for democracy it is to question election results. Was just reading this article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/business/media/trump-tv-anchors-criticism.html
The New York Times is anti-Trump, as is Chris Wallice.
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:police: :police: :police: Play nice or leave the thread :police: :police: :police:
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Maybe one candidate shouldn't have told his supporters not to vote by mail for most of the year. Maybe one candidate shouldn't have tried to sabotage our postal service to discourage people from using a convenient way to vote that a number of different states have used for years (i.e. Utah & Arizona). Ballots came in late because the president screwed with the postal service. He installed his lackey to make changes to our postal service that slowed down the mail. At every turn, this president caused trouble for himself and now he's screaming fraud when there is virtually no evidence of it. They even live streamed the ballot counting in multiple cities and counties all over the country.
To sum this all up, are we really that surprised that an unpopular president who never rose above 50% in any reputable poll taken during his entire presidency lost his reelection bid? Is the sky not blue? Is water not wet? Does 2+2 not = 4? I understand the need to go down this rabbit hole but this is what happened to Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H.W. Bush in 1992; if you cannot convince enough people that you can turn things around, you lose. A lot of us saw this writing on the wall in 2018 and some even before that. He literally never got above 50% in any reputable polls. I know everyone hates polling but Trump had a 46-47% ceiling and that means reaching out to those outside your base. He tried that this year but much too late. This was a very straightforward election.
Sorry to be so wordy but the conspiracy theories are becoming a bit much at this point when it's simple mathematics and logic that explain all of this. No one committed any fraud. No one magically stuffed ballots somewhere. It is difficult to beat an incumbent, but only when they're popular or have a bigger base of support.
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As I said in the previous post, thanks @royalcrown89 for explaining what many of us think so clear.
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The problem with your theory (and I'm not trying to change your mind - I'm pointing out that your theory is wrong), is that all the other states counted all their mail in ballots that very night. The five states Trump was winning just stopped counting right before he won, and were still counting four god dam days later. In PA, they realized they needed 800,000 votes to win, so they went from 93% done, to 90% (that's when they wheelbarrowed in what they needed at 4am).
There are also now reports from Democrat run counties like Maricopa in Arizona, where Republicans who voted by mail are finding out that their vote was "cancelled." I wonder who counted their votes…
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Why were Repub vote observers prevented from watching the counts in several states?
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Yea guys… what you got to hide? Hmm??? This is on several videos. If you had nothing to hide, you'd have no reason to do that, would you?
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Why were Repub vote observers prevented from watching the counts in several states?
This has yet to be proven - true or not (no matter what you strongly believe) these allegations need more proof
The thing is most of these allegations have not been proven - they are purely hearsay 3rd party allegations with no actual proof.. Until they are proven then they are just allegations and therefore will mean nothing in a court of law
some of these so called allegations and issues brought to court by Trump et al have been thrown out of court within hours as they have nothing to back them up - at this point it feels like they are just throwing stuff at a wall and hoping something sticks
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Haha. You may not want to believe the evidence, like the democrap judges, but it's already been proven. The glitches already have flipped seats to who they belonged to. Quit lying to yourself. Republicans probably cheated in some places too. Not saying that. I didn't vote. Just because you don't believe it, doesn't mean anything.
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There's more evidence to prove voter fraud than Russian collusion, but y'all carried that torch for 4 years.
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These are first hand eye witnesses, with video. It's not hearsay you incompetent fool. And yes, we've already seen the videos!!! We know Trump won. There is nothing to concede.
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These are first hand eye witnesses, with video. It's not hearsay you incompetent fool. And yes, we've already seen the videos!!! We know Trump won. There is nothing to concede.
I was not attacking either of you.. just discussing things - don't attack others on here just because they share a diff view point (red or blue or freaking pink) If the extreme sides (both) on here were not so ready to attack eachother then more might join in in discussions
I simply stated the truth.. the courts can't do anything without def legal proof (heavily edited videos with no context are going to get thrown out no matter how true they are). I was not rude or taking sides just stated facts.. IF there is clear legal evidence (whether its video or watermarks or whatever) then roll on Trump for four more years
Anyway, this "incompotent fool" is outta here for another long while - hope it all pans out and maybe the US gets some well deserved peace and quiet.. but i doubt it
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I hate to throw water on your fire, but there is PLENTY of evidence. There are hundreds of affidavits, eye witness testimony, for starters. That's called evidence. Then there are the "glitches" with Dominion software that Pelosi and Feinstein are shareholders of or connected to via chiefs of staff. There are no glitches… Then there's thousands of dead voters. Then there's all the circumstantial evidence where Trump was ahead in 5 states by a lot, and they panicked and got sloppy. Every one of those states in ten cities they magically all happened to jump for Biden just enough, with thousands of ballots dumped overnight with no poll watchers allowed. Coincidence? That they all did that at the same time? It wasn't because of mail in ballots that it jumped either. Because all the other states counted there's that day. Mail in ballots were cast months in advance so taking over a week now and they're still counting. It's absurd and anyone who believes that nonsense is delusional. Sorry. But it's so obvious that there was fraud at this point, the only reason you deny the evidence is just because you don't want to believe it. There's too much evidence, rather than what the media is telling you, that there's none. Eye witness testimony IS evidence. Dead people voting IS evidence, etc.
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