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    Possibility that HIV is man-made

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      JohnAllenson
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      There's a difference between a virus being CREATED and USED.

      Precisely!

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        pols1337
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        How did this OP go from an article that factually identified the origins of HIV as chimpanzees in West AFrica to … "it's man-made"????

        If you want to say crazy shit on forums, then at least pretend to cite an article that actually backs up your claims LOL.  :crazy2:

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          eobox91103
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          @pols1337:

          How did this OP go from an article that factually identified the origins of HIV as chimpanzees in West AFrica to … "it's man-made"?

          If you want to say crazy shit on forums, then at least pretend to cite an article that actually backs up your claims LOL.

          Well put, but expecting someone prone to conspiracy theories to be rational is, um, optimistic at best.

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            lololulu19
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            @eobox91103:

            @pols1337:

            How did this OP go from an article that factually identified the origins of HIV as chimpanzees in West AFrica to … "it's man-made"?

            If you want to say crazy shit on forums, then at least pretend to cite an article that actually backs up your claims LOL.

            Well put, but expecting someone prone to conspiracy theories to be rational is, um, optimistic at best.

            I don't know that much about it.. but.. it seems MORE likely that it existed in primates, and was genetically adapted to be weaponized.  Possibly to kill off black people.. possible to kill off gay people.  I'm speculating based upon who the VICTIMS have been.

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              eobox91103
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              @JohnAllenson:

              But on the issue of HIV, we know it's been killing people for almost a century now.  That's too long ago for someone to have used recombinant DNA techniques to manufacture a virus.

              Brother Allenson has this right.  That HIV originated in primates in Africa is established scientific fact.  Conspiracy theorists who claim otherwise need to go home and polish their tinfoil hats.

              As to whether there was this nasty conspiracy to weaponize HIV against blacks and gay people…there is absolutely evidence of this, whereas the transmission vectors from monkey to African humans to Western humans are well-understood and are in line with, again, thoroughly established epidemiological data.  There was no conspiracy here.

              The problem with conspiracy theories like "HIV is man-made" or "HIV doesn't cause AIDS--or even illness" is that there's no factual evidence to support them, while a boatload of evidence supports the true account.  People who invent off-base theories need to find data and conduct research to back up their theories, not just shout them over and over again.

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                Rubber0
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                Though long-term research itself is not a propper tool to find out the origin of the virus, it's not enough.
                BUT! There was not a hint at the methods of investigation, base of samples, etc in the article…

                gzlong, За дурной галавой нагам неспакой

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                  fun17
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                  _conspiracy theories.. like the ones concerning cancer!

                  :D_

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                    Nodataboy
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                    yupp, people in power love playing with viruses and pandemics … the elite want less humans, I'm never surprised what the ones on top do, including the Covid-19 BS going on atm ... such is life

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                      jkronfuss
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                      Does it matter that match? At least now it can be controlled.

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                        eobox91103
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                        @jkronfuss:

                        Does it matter that match? At least now it can be controlled.

                        I think it does matter.  If people who believe baseless conspiracy theories about HIV are unchallenged, they can believe baseless conspiracy theories about other things…like 5G mobile towers cause coronavirus, or the Earth is flat.  Some of these are silly and harmless (like the flat Earth), while others can cause harm in society.

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