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    Does reputation or the thumbs up/down button mean anything to you?

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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator
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      I'll give you guys a hint.

      Despite what someone says publicly, running to the helpdesk crying about something shows you care.

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        cteavin
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        @raphjd:

        I'll give you guys a hint.

        Despite what someone says publicly, running to the helpdesk crying about something shows you care.

        Are you talking about me?

        I went to the Help Desk to ask how the points are given. Go read the message yourself. You gave me a minus rep. I never noticed the rep until Fred started pointing it out, so I started giving rep around. I had 20 points. Then you gave me a minus rep and I was in the negative. I wanted to know 1) how the points for the rep are given and 2) if you were using your status as admin to take off more points than you should. Those are fair questions, no?

        So, let's find out what the rules are since you're on the inside.

        1. How does the system decide who gets how many points of reputation?

        2. Does the reputation depend on the level of the user (admin, hero, etc)?

        3. What do those Stars mean next to our avatar and how do we get them?

        4. And what do those titles mean, lurker, hero member, etc?

        I still maintain that reputation is meaningless because one user can take away 20+ points on a whim whereas the thumbs up and down are fairer.

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        • raphjdR Offline
          raphjd Forum Administrator
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          1.  The more rep you have, the bigger the hit/boost is to the other person.

          2.  NOPE.  Everyone is treated equally.    If an admin has 10k rep and a user also has 10k rep, the effect on others is the same.

          3.  The stars are your forum level, as are the colors.  Newbs have the lowest with admins having the highest.

          4.  Titles (except staff) are based on post counts.

          Thumbs mean nothing either when a handful  of users can destroy over 15k in thumbs up surplus in a few months, simply by following their enemies around and down voting EVERYTHING they post, even filling porn requests and helping others use the site.

          Anyone can ruin a positive thumbs rating, but it's harder to do that to reputation.    The same goes the other way, anyone can artificially inflate their thumbs rating when they clump together, but it's a lot harder to do that with reputation.

          Let me just point out, if you didn't care, you wouldn't be asking.    I don't care about the tax rates in INDIA, so I don't look it up or ask.

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            cteavin
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            @raphjd:

            1.  The more rep you have, the bigger the hit/boost is to the other person.

            2.  NOPE.  Everyone is treated equally.    If an admin has 10k rep and a user also has 10k rep, the effect on others is the same.

            3.  The stars are your forum level, as are the colors.   Newbs have the lowest with admins having the highest.

            4.   Titles (except staff) are based on post counts.

            Thumbs mean nothing either when a handful  of users can destroy over 15k in thumbs up surplus in a few months, simply by following their enemies around and down voting EVERYTHING they post, even filling porn requests and helping others use the site.

            Anyone can ruin a positive thumbs rating, but it's harder to do that to reputation.   The same goes the other way, anyone can artificially inflate their thumbs rating when they clump together, but it's a lot harder to do that with reputation.

            Let me just point out, if you didn't care, you wouldn't be asking.    I don't care about the tax rates in INDIA, so I don't look it up or ask.

            No offense but you didn't answer with specifics. And my history says otherwise with reputation.

            Well, I suppose I do care a little. I guess this means you deeply care about me considering all the attention I've gotten from you the past few days. I'm just not into S&M, so can we stop?

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            • raphjdR Offline
              raphjd Forum Administrator
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              I think it's obvious.

              A group of people with very little reputation and very low thumbs up ratings (compared to what I had) were able to destroy my over 15k thumbs up rating.  All combined, their thumbs and reputation scored didn't add up to even a quarter of what I had.

              However, because their relatively low reputation scores, they weren't able to do the same thing to my reputation rating.

              With the thumbs ratings, you can have the absolutely worst rating and still destroy another person's rating.    The same can't be said for reputation.

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                cteavin
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                @raphjd:

                I think it's obvious.

                A group of people with very little reputation and very low thumbs up ratings (compared to what I had) were able to destroy my over 15k thumbs up rating.   All combined, their thumbs and reputation scored didn't add up to even a quarter of what I had.

                However, because their relatively low reputation scores, they weren't able to do the same thing to my reputation rating.

                With the thumbs ratings, you can have the absolutely worst rating and still destroy another person's rating.    The same can't be said for reputation.

                No, but since the reputation is given as some kind of percentage of an existing reputation (or perhaps posts, you didn't specify how rep is rated) you have the exact same problem in reverse: One or a few people can obliterate another person reputation. I saw this first hand twice.

                This is important because certain people use the reputation as proof that they're posts are good and others are not. That's false. That's demonstrably false.

                The only thing that matters is the post at hand.

                If you, or someone, could actually answer questions one - four with details, I'd like to know.

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                • raphjdR Offline
                  raphjd Forum Administrator
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                  If you are demanding the rocket science version of the answers, you'll have to go else where for that.

                  Reputation is given/taken just like thumbs.

                  The only difference is some ass clown can't login, search for every single post you made, regardless of content and spam the shit out of the negative rep.  You have to spread the love/hate AND rep others.

                  I don't remember all the details since it's coded into the forum software.

                  Say you want to rep someone twice; good or bad, it doesn't matter.

                  There is a minimum amount of time you have to wait between the reps 2.  You can do it sooner if you rep others; good or bad.    Even at it's shortest time, we're still talking several hours.

                  Rep levels are given/taken by others, post count doesn't matter.

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                  • D Offline
                    Dene
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                    @flozen:

                    I'll travel from the personal to the more general.

                    My alluring, long red reputation line (and always looking for a little more) was established by two persons.

                    Meanwhile, I've been assigned 360 "thumbs and emojis" as of this writing, with the top six contributors totaling 222 of these marks, and the sixth position tallying at 21 marks.  Other members assigned the remaining 138 marks, which, while unlisted, must tally from the teens downward through single digits.

                    Thus, I've received thumbs and emojis from more than a dozen members.  I'll take that larger gene pool over the "reputation" kissing cousins any day.  And for whatever it's worth, my marks run about five-to-one positive.

                    I wish this thread would act as a long-term catch-all for remarks about either evaluation system.  Unfortunately, so many political topics are diverted and derailed by endless mention of reputation, in particular.  It's a sad and weak refuge when one's argument is being shredded for lack of citations, the poor quality of citations, biased premise, off-topic meanderings, and so on.

                    That sums it up for me.  Oh, except to say that none of it means much in the grand of scheme of things – for self-actualized people, anyway.

                    I suspect that, when i posted more, in the past, i got in the same situation… I have stated views and countered people's opinions in the political forum but was 99% nice to people, i disagreed with some yes but not sure how differing views = bad rep

                    I realised today I have a red line - which is sad because it gives others - especially new people, the impression that i'm a bad guy when i am not. I am a guy that can be quite helpful & anecdotal & fun etc - But I  disagreed with other people who were just as forceful in their debating of politics and so now pay the price.

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                      cteavin
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                      @Dene:

                      I suspect that, when i posted more, in the past, i got in the same situation… I have stated views and countered people's opinions in the political forum but was 99% nice to people, i disagreed with some yes but not sure how differing views = bad rep

                      I realised today I have a red line - which is sad because it gives others - especially new people, the impression that i'm a bad guy when i am not. I am a guy that can be quite helpful & anecdotal & fun etc - But I  disagreed with other people who were just as forceful in their debating of politics and so now pay the price.

                      Amen brother. I got THREE down votes in reputation. Three. That's all it took to put me deep in the red. But to be honest, I wouldn't have even known what the red/green are supposed to mean if Fred didn't keep talking about it. I doubt new members have a clue and they'll learn quickly it's pretty meaningless.

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                      • FrederickF Offline
                        Frederick
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                        @Dene:

                        @flozen:

                        I'll travel from the personal to the more general.

                        My alluring, long red reputation line (and always looking for a little more) was established by two persons.

                        Meanwhile, I've been assigned 360 "thumbs and emojis" as of this writing, with the top six contributors totaling 222 of these marks, and the sixth position tallying at 21 marks.  Other members assigned the remaining 138 marks, which, while unlisted, must tally from the teens downward through single digits.

                        Thus, I've received thumbs and emojis from more than a dozen members.  I'll take that larger gene pool over the "reputation" kissing cousins any day.  And for whatever it's worth, my marks run about five-to-one positive.

                        I wish this thread would act as a long-term catch-all for remarks about either evaluation system.  Unfortunately, so many political topics are diverted and derailed by endless mention of reputation, in particular.  It's a sad and weak refuge when one's argument is being shredded for lack of citations, the poor quality of citations, biased premise, off-topic meanderings, and so on.

                        That sums it up for me.  Oh, except to say that none of it means much in the grand of scheme of things – for self-actualized people, anyway.

                        I suspect that, when i posted more, in the past, i got in the same situation… I have stated views and countered people's opinions in the political forum but was 99% nice to people, i disagreed with some yes but not sure how differing views = bad rep

                        I realised today I have a red line - which is sad because it gives others - especially new people, the impression that i'm a bad guy when i am not. I am a guy that can be quite helpful & anecdotal & fun etc - But I  disagreed with other people who were just as forceful in their debating of politics and so now pay the price.

                        Actually, you don't have a red LINE.. you have one red dot.  That is no big deal.  The longer the red or green line, the more significant it is.  I bet if you posted some more messages, you would go green.

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                          cteavin
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                          @Frederick:

                          Actually, you don't have a red LINE.. you have one red dot.  That is no big deal.  The longer the red or green line, the more significant it is.   I bet if you posted some more messages, you would go green.

                          Hmm, we are seeing two very different things. I see five dots. And, I just checked, I got two positive reputations today, too.

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                          • FrederickF Offline
                            Frederick
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                            @cteavin:

                            @Frederick:

                            Actually, you don't have a red LINE.. you have one red dot.  That is no big deal.  The longer the red or green line, the more significant it is.   I bet if you posted some more messages, you would go green.

                            Hmm, we are seeing two very different things. I see five dots.

                            You have 5 dots…  but I was replying to DENE - who has but one.  One dot does not make a person bad.

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                              cteavin
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                              @Frederick:

                              You have 5 dots…  but I was replying to DENE - who has but one.   One dot does not make a person bad.

                              But five does, eh? (lol)

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                              • FrederickF Offline
                                Frederick
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                                @cteavin:

                                @Frederick:

                                You have 5 dots…  but I was replying to DENE - who has but one.   One dot does not make a person bad.

                                But five does, eh? (lol)

                                Well, 1 is barely anything.
                                5 is not much.. but is a sign that there is a problem.  
                                When someone has 12 red dots (which is the maximum visible) THAT means the poster is a psycho moonbat.  When someone has 12 red dots, bring out the straight jackets!

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                                Check out the original.. which got over 18 MILLION views!
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