Does reputation or the thumbs up/down button mean anything to you?
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I'll travel from the personal to the more general.
My alluring, long red reputation line (and always looking for a little more) was established by two persons.
Meanwhile, I've been assigned 360 "thumbs and emojis" as of this writing, with the top six contributors totaling 222 of these marks, and the sixth position tallying at 21 marks. Other members assigned the remaining 138 marks, which, while unlisted, must tally from the teens downward through single digits.
Thus, I've received thumbs and emojis from more than a dozen members. I'll take that larger gene pool over the "reputation" kissing cousins any day. And for whatever it's worth, my marks run about five-to-one positive.
I wish this thread would act as a long-term catch-all for remarks about either evaluation system. Unfortunately, so many political topics are diverted and derailed by endless mention of reputation, in particular. It's a sad and weak refuge when one's argument is being shredded for lack of citations, the poor quality of citations, biased premise, off-topic meanderings, and so on.
That sums it up for me. Oh, except to say that none of it means much in the grand of scheme of things – for self-actualized people, anyway.
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I'll travel from the personal to the more general.
My alluring, long red reputation line (and always looking for a little more) was established by two persons.
Meanwhile, I've been assigned 360 "thumbs and emojis" as of this writing, with the top six contributors totaling 222 of these marks, and the sixth position tallying at 21 marks. Other members assigned the remaining 138 marks, which, while unlisted, must tally from the teens downward through single digits.
Thus, I've received thumbs and emojis from more than more a dozen members. I'll take that larger gene pool over the "reputation" kissing cousins any day. And for whatever it's worth, my marks run about five-to-one positive.
I wish this thread would act as a long-term catch-all for remarks about either evaluation system. Unfortunately, so many political topics are diverted and derailed by endless mention of reputation, in particular. It's a sad and weak refuge when one's argument is being shredded for lack of citations, the poor quality of citations, biased premise, off-topic meanderings, and so on.
That sums it up for me. Oh, except to say that none of it means much in the grand of scheme of things – for self-actualized people, anyway.
Wrong again.
It is extremely easy to click on a thumb - too easy.. which is why you have a dozen people giving you thumbs.One flaw in the "thumbs" is that you can see how many thumbs up and thumbs down you have.. but while it does show you who gave you a thumb, it doesn't specify which members gave you a thumbs up and which gave you a thumbs down.
I would also point out that you have lied to me several times about giving me a thumbs down. I have my own special way of knowing that.
But.. beyond all of that, just read the messages. Anybody with a functional brain can figure out who is astute and who is just an ass.
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I would also point out that you have lied to me several times about giving me a thumbs down. I have my own special way of knowing that.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to call "bullhockey" on that fabrication.
As we have not "spoken" privately to my memory, can you simply provide the threads where I "lied" in comments about giving you/not giving you "a thumbs down"?
But you can't provide them, can you? So much for your special ways. As an aside, you've probably received about five percent "up" from me in the world of thumbs – a number that has clearly reached its plateau.
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I would also point out that you have lied to me several times about giving me a thumbs down. I have my own special way of knowing that.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to call "bullhockey" on that fabrication.
As we have not "spoken" privately to my memory, can you simply provide the threads where I "lied" in comments about giving you/not giving you "a thumbs down"?
But you can't provide them, can you? So much for your special ways. As an aside, you've probably received about five percent "up" from me in the world of thumbs – a number that has clearly reached its plateau.
As always, you are wrong.
I can provide them. Here is one from 2.5 months ago!:
https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=52326.msg284701#msg284701 -
As always, you are wrong.
I can provide them. Here is one from 2.5 months ago!:
https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=52326.msg284701#msg284701No. Your point was that I "lied" about making a thumbs down – that somewhere I denied it, and you had the ability to prove otherwise:
"I would also point out that you have lied to me several times about giving me a thumbs down. I have my own special way of knowing that."
Your reference link only alleges the giving of a thumbs down. I've given you a fair share, including in that thread.
Saying I lied about it is, ironically, the lie. Pony up a citation where I have lied to you regarding thumbs, and stop shifting your claim.
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One flaw in the "thumbs" is that you can see how many thumbs up and thumbs down you have.. but while it does show you who gave you a thumb, it doesn't specify which members gave you a thumbs up and which gave you a thumbs down.
I would also point out that you have lied to me several times about giving me a thumbs down. I have my own special way of knowing that.
You don't need to know who voted you up or down for each post. You have anonymity online whereas I use my real photo and have my real webpage making it easy for people to find me, so I have to take responsibility for anything callous I say here. Unless you feel your real name should be used in this forum for you take full responsibility for everything you've said, the anonymity of the thumbs is a good thing.
The second sentence is irrelevant.
If someone gives you a thumbs down that you don't think you deserve, you can disregard it. However, if you get multiple thumbs down, rethink. Let me phrase this differently, if someone is getting hate on and offline, that person has to either think the world is crazy or they're not fitting in. How they chose to think about it is up to them. The same is true with any feedback one gets in a forum.
I will say this, the person who gave me minus reputation put as a comment for the reason SJW. That's it. The post it was attached to had nothing to do with anything SJW. That kind of caprice is why the reputation is bs.
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As always, you are wrong.
I can provide them. Here is one from 2.5 months ago!:
https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=52326.msg284701#msg284701No. Your point was that I "lied" about making a thumbs down – that somewhere I denied it, and you had the ability to prove otherwise:
"I would also point out that you have lied to me several times about giving me a thumbs down. I have my own special way of knowing that."
Your reference link only alleges the giving of a thumbs down. I've given you a fair share, including in that thread.
Saying I lied about it is, ironically, the lie. Pony up a citation where I have lied to you regarding thumbs, and stop shifting your claim.
You did lie about it. You were not aware that I could tell who was downvoting me, and you kept denying it. You were lying.
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You did lie about it. You were not aware that I could tell who was downvoting me, and you kept denying it. You were lying.
Where is my denial of giving you a thumbs down? What specific words did I use to lie to you about thumbs?
As well, kept denying it? You've got multiple instances on record to share with us?
Quite sure you're able to follow this line of simple logic. But you made a claim out of thin air (because it sounded good), and when pressed, you've got nothing.
You're boring me, and collectively, we're boring all passers-by. So I'm done with it.
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This is an example of trying to start a fight. You didn't make any contribution to the topic though it is important to you. Instead, you made an unrelated comment. As an Admin you should do better. You are supposed to be the one setting the correct tone on how to behave and yet here you are giving an example of how not to behave.
This is a good example of why the red/green reputation bar has no meaning. You have a long green bar but you go off topic constantly. The number of thumbs up/down correctly reflect your contribution.
Still, I won't put a thumb down because I reserve that for bad content related to the topic. That's why I have given so few.
My comment in that thread was not "off topic" because YOU mentioned thumbs down and I explained it, then you got all prissy.
And fuck off with your constantly telling me what I must and must not do.
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I'll give you guys a hint.
Despite what someone says publicly, running to the helpdesk crying about something shows you care.
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I'll give you guys a hint.
Despite what someone says publicly, running to the helpdesk crying about something shows you care.
Are you talking about me?
I went to the Help Desk to ask how the points are given. Go read the message yourself. You gave me a minus rep. I never noticed the rep until Fred started pointing it out, so I started giving rep around. I had 20 points. Then you gave me a minus rep and I was in the negative. I wanted to know 1) how the points for the rep are given and 2) if you were using your status as admin to take off more points than you should. Those are fair questions, no?
So, let's find out what the rules are since you're on the inside.
1. How does the system decide who gets how many points of reputation?
2. Does the reputation depend on the level of the user (admin, hero, etc)?
3. What do those Stars mean next to our avatar and how do we get them?
4. And what do those titles mean, lurker, hero member, etc?
I still maintain that reputation is meaningless because one user can take away 20+ points on a whim whereas the thumbs up and down are fairer.
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1. The more rep you have, the bigger the hit/boost is to the other person.
2. NOPE. Everyone is treated equally. If an admin has 10k rep and a user also has 10k rep, the effect on others is the same.
3. The stars are your forum level, as are the colors. Newbs have the lowest with admins having the highest.
4. Titles (except staff) are based on post counts.
Thumbs mean nothing either when a handful of users can destroy over 15k in thumbs up surplus in a few months, simply by following their enemies around and down voting EVERYTHING they post, even filling porn requests and helping others use the site.
Anyone can ruin a positive thumbs rating, but it's harder to do that to reputation. The same goes the other way, anyone can artificially inflate their thumbs rating when they clump together, but it's a lot harder to do that with reputation.
Let me just point out, if you didn't care, you wouldn't be asking. I don't care about the tax rates in INDIA, so I don't look it up or ask.
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1. The more rep you have, the bigger the hit/boost is to the other person.
2. NOPE. Everyone is treated equally. If an admin has 10k rep and a user also has 10k rep, the effect on others is the same.
3. The stars are your forum level, as are the colors. Newbs have the lowest with admins having the highest.
4. Titles (except staff) are based on post counts.
Thumbs mean nothing either when a handful of users can destroy over 15k in thumbs up surplus in a few months, simply by following their enemies around and down voting EVERYTHING they post, even filling porn requests and helping others use the site.
Anyone can ruin a positive thumbs rating, but it's harder to do that to reputation. The same goes the other way, anyone can artificially inflate their thumbs rating when they clump together, but it's a lot harder to do that with reputation.
Let me just point out, if you didn't care, you wouldn't be asking. I don't care about the tax rates in INDIA, so I don't look it up or ask.
No offense but you didn't answer with specifics. And my history says otherwise with reputation.
Well, I suppose I do care a little. I guess this means you deeply care about me considering all the attention I've gotten from you the past few days. I'm just not into S&M, so can we stop?
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I think it's obvious.
A group of people with very little reputation and very low thumbs up ratings (compared to what I had) were able to destroy my over 15k thumbs up rating. All combined, their thumbs and reputation scored didn't add up to even a quarter of what I had.
However, because their relatively low reputation scores, they weren't able to do the same thing to my reputation rating.
With the thumbs ratings, you can have the absolutely worst rating and still destroy another person's rating. The same can't be said for reputation.
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I think it's obvious.
A group of people with very little reputation and very low thumbs up ratings (compared to what I had) were able to destroy my over 15k thumbs up rating. All combined, their thumbs and reputation scored didn't add up to even a quarter of what I had.
However, because their relatively low reputation scores, they weren't able to do the same thing to my reputation rating.
With the thumbs ratings, you can have the absolutely worst rating and still destroy another person's rating. The same can't be said for reputation.
No, but since the reputation is given as some kind of percentage of an existing reputation (or perhaps posts, you didn't specify how rep is rated) you have the exact same problem in reverse: One or a few people can obliterate another person reputation. I saw this first hand twice.
This is important because certain people use the reputation as proof that they're posts are good and others are not. That's false. That's demonstrably false.
The only thing that matters is the post at hand.
If you, or someone, could actually answer questions one - four with details, I'd like to know.
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If you are demanding the rocket science version of the answers, you'll have to go else where for that.
Reputation is given/taken just like thumbs.
The only difference is some ass clown can't login, search for every single post you made, regardless of content and spam the shit out of the negative rep. You have to spread the love/hate AND rep others.
I don't remember all the details since it's coded into the forum software.
Say you want to rep someone twice; good or bad, it doesn't matter.
There is a minimum amount of time you have to wait between the reps 2. You can do it sooner if you rep others; good or bad. Even at it's shortest time, we're still talking several hours.
Rep levels are given/taken by others, post count doesn't matter.
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I'll travel from the personal to the more general.
My alluring, long red reputation line (and always looking for a little more) was established by two persons.
Meanwhile, I've been assigned 360 "thumbs and emojis" as of this writing, with the top six contributors totaling 222 of these marks, and the sixth position tallying at 21 marks. Other members assigned the remaining 138 marks, which, while unlisted, must tally from the teens downward through single digits.
Thus, I've received thumbs and emojis from more than a dozen members. I'll take that larger gene pool over the "reputation" kissing cousins any day. And for whatever it's worth, my marks run about five-to-one positive.
I wish this thread would act as a long-term catch-all for remarks about either evaluation system. Unfortunately, so many political topics are diverted and derailed by endless mention of reputation, in particular. It's a sad and weak refuge when one's argument is being shredded for lack of citations, the poor quality of citations, biased premise, off-topic meanderings, and so on.
That sums it up for me. Oh, except to say that none of it means much in the grand of scheme of things – for self-actualized people, anyway.
I suspect that, when i posted more, in the past, i got in the same situation… I have stated views and countered people's opinions in the political forum but was 99% nice to people, i disagreed with some yes but not sure how differing views = bad rep
I realised today I have a red line - which is sad because it gives others - especially new people, the impression that i'm a bad guy when i am not. I am a guy that can be quite helpful & anecdotal & fun etc - But I disagreed with other people who were just as forceful in their debating of politics and so now pay the price.
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I suspect that, when i posted more, in the past, i got in the same situation… I have stated views and countered people's opinions in the political forum but was 99% nice to people, i disagreed with some yes but not sure how differing views = bad rep
I realised today I have a red line - which is sad because it gives others - especially new people, the impression that i'm a bad guy when i am not. I am a guy that can be quite helpful & anecdotal & fun etc - But I disagreed with other people who were just as forceful in their debating of politics and so now pay the price.
Amen brother. I got THREE down votes in reputation. Three. That's all it took to put me deep in the red. But to be honest, I wouldn't have even known what the red/green are supposed to mean if Fred didn't keep talking about it. I doubt new members have a clue and they'll learn quickly it's pretty meaningless.
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I'll travel from the personal to the more general.
My alluring, long red reputation line (and always looking for a little more) was established by two persons.
Meanwhile, I've been assigned 360 "thumbs and emojis" as of this writing, with the top six contributors totaling 222 of these marks, and the sixth position tallying at 21 marks. Other members assigned the remaining 138 marks, which, while unlisted, must tally from the teens downward through single digits.
Thus, I've received thumbs and emojis from more than a dozen members. I'll take that larger gene pool over the "reputation" kissing cousins any day. And for whatever it's worth, my marks run about five-to-one positive.
I wish this thread would act as a long-term catch-all for remarks about either evaluation system. Unfortunately, so many political topics are diverted and derailed by endless mention of reputation, in particular. It's a sad and weak refuge when one's argument is being shredded for lack of citations, the poor quality of citations, biased premise, off-topic meanderings, and so on.
That sums it up for me. Oh, except to say that none of it means much in the grand of scheme of things – for self-actualized people, anyway.
I suspect that, when i posted more, in the past, i got in the same situation… I have stated views and countered people's opinions in the political forum but was 99% nice to people, i disagreed with some yes but not sure how differing views = bad rep
I realised today I have a red line - which is sad because it gives others - especially new people, the impression that i'm a bad guy when i am not. I am a guy that can be quite helpful & anecdotal & fun etc - But I disagreed with other people who were just as forceful in their debating of politics and so now pay the price.
Actually, you don't have a red LINE.. you have one red dot. That is no big deal. The longer the red or green line, the more significant it is. I bet if you posted some more messages, you would go green.
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Actually, you don't have a red LINE.. you have one red dot. That is no big deal. The longer the red or green line, the more significant it is. I bet if you posted some more messages, you would go green.
Hmm, we are seeing two very different things. I see five dots. And, I just checked, I got two positive reputations today, too.
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