• Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Torrents
    • Login

    Jeremy Corbyn under fire for saying people 'choose to be gay'

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved LGBT News
    21 Posts 18 Posters 8.0k Views 1 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • H Offline
      Higgs
      last edited by

      I'm a bit sick of the idea that gay people have no choice at all about what we do, as though we're some sort of animal or automaton that just acts out of blind unthinking instinct. Let's be quite clear: we do have quite a bit of choice.

      We do not have any choice over who we are attracted to.

      We do (normally) have complete control over how we act on our attractions.

      We do not have any choice over who we fall in love with.

      We do (normally) have complete control over what kinds of relationships we form.

      We do not have much control over the way sexuality and 'sexual orientation' are constructed in the culture and the historical moment in which we happen to live.

      We do have some control over what sexuality we choose to identify with and how we choose to project that identity.

      So let's stop it with this "we don't choose to be gay" bollocks. This is true only in one sense: in the narrow sense of individual attraction.  In many other ways, it turns out we have a fair bit of choice after all.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • FrederickF Offline
        Frederick
        last edited by

        One could argue that people choose to be STRAIGHT…  because most children prefer to play and associate with their own gender and consider the other gender "icky" until they get older and perhaps peer pressure and society steers them in a different direction.

        Picture removed by admin

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • D Offline
          Dene
          last edited by

          @Higgs:

          I'm a bit sick of the idea that gay people have no choice at all about what we do, as though we're some sort of animal or automaton that just acts out of blind unthinking instinct. Let's be quite clear: we do have quite a bit of choice.

          We do not have any choice over who we are attracted to.

          We do (normally) have complete control over how we act on our attractions.

          We do not have any choice over who we fall in love with.

          We do (normally) have complete control over what kinds of relationships we form.

          We do not have much control over the way sexuality and 'sexual orientation' are constructed in the culture and the historical moment in which we happen to live.

          We do have some control over what sexuality we choose to identify with and how we choose to project that identity.

          So let's stop it with this "we don't choose to be gay" bollocks. This is true only in one sense: in the narrow sense of individual attraction.  In many other ways, it turns out we have a fair bit of choice after all.

          "We do not have any choice over who we are attracted to." - that is the point of ""we don't choose to be gay" - i am aware that what we do re : how we act etc is all choice but the ""we don't choose to be gay" phrase is simply "i did not choose my attraction to the same sex" - which you, rightly, pointed out is not something you can choose

          I am a man attracted to men not women.. the rest is always a choice, in any sexuality.. I didn't choose to be a man solely attracted to men

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • B Offline
            blackwing
            last edited by

            You don't realize the word means the same thing?! :blink:

            @Oscarbingham:

            You choose to be gay (which is s political label) but you dont choose to be homosexual (which is a sexual orientation).

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • H Offline
              hcdddvd
              last edited by

              GO TO HELL >:D

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • O Offline
                Oscarbingham
                last edited by

                Big mouth

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • S Offline
                  splurgy
                  last edited by

                  I wasn't super thrilled about Jezza saying this at the time, but in the grand scheme of things he could punch a baby and I'd still want him as PM.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • P Offline
                    Parasite
                    last edited by

                    No one chooses to be gay, if being gay were a choice, NO ONE would be gay because NO ONE likes to be judged that way by the world

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • A Offline
                      alveer
                      last edited by

                      hmmm 😞

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • M Offline
                        marlolir
                        last edited by

                        I know what you mean. If you're gay, you can choose to live according to your sexuality or live like a straight man. In that sense, yes we choose. But it's impossible in that case to be happy because you can't genuinely fake your sexuality I don't think!

                        @Ononoke:

                        Logically speaking, he does make a valid point. I mean, even gay people can 'choose to be straight', right? Let's just have a positive mind, and comprehend his words as 'choosing the wrong words' while trying to say "Choose to be the way they truly are".

                        With that said, it also makes sense that Corbyn 'choose to be a man', right? After all, anyone has the freedom to change gender.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0

                        Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                        Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                        With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                        Register Login
                        • 1
                        • 2
                        • 2 / 2
                        • First post
                          Last post