Jeremy Corbyn under fire for saying people 'choose to be gay'
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Logically speaking, he does make a valid point. I mean, even gay people can 'choose to be straight', right? Let's just have a positive mind, and comprehend his words as 'choosing the wrong words' while trying to say "Choose to be the way they truly are".
With that said, it also makes sense that Corbyn 'choose to be a man', right? After all, anyone has the freedom to change gender.
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Mr Corbyn's choice of words was unfortunate, and he subsequently apologised for using the word 'choose.' It seems a bit petty, however, to pick out this one inopportune phrase in a whole frickin speech dedicated to expressing solidarity with the rights of LGBT people. In fact, it seems perverse. You'd almost think that people on Jeremy Corbyn's own side were trying to undermine him by any means possible, or something.
Moreover, I wonder if the LGBT movement is really this hyper-sensitive. Are we really so up our own collective arse that we throw a fit every time somebody uses the word 'choose' or 'choice' in conjunction with sexuality? Even when that person has laboured for decades alongside LGBT people? I can only imagine what these mental midgets would do if anyone dared to suggest that sexualities might be socially-constructed roles. Maybe some of us need to get over ourselves just a little bit.
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This is the least offensive thing about corbyn.
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And who would you prefer? Theresa May, who repeatedly voted against equalising the age of consent, repealing Section 28 and allowing gay adoption? Or perhaps Tim Farron, who refuses to say whether he thinks gay sex is a sin?
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>:D >:D >:D >:D -
Sounds like more ungrateful PC bitching to me. It's no wonder the left has become so regressive, they attack allies when no other enemy is in sight.
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You choose to be gay (which is s political label) but you dont choose to be homosexual (which is a sexual orientation).
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You choose to be gay (which is s political label) but you dont choose to be homosexual (which is a sexual orientation).
holy shit lmaooooo
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I'm a bit sick of the idea that gay people have no choice at all about what we do, as though we're some sort of animal or automaton that just acts out of blind unthinking instinct. Let's be quite clear: we do have quite a bit of choice.
We do not have any choice over who we are attracted to.
We do (normally) have complete control over how we act on our attractions.
We do not have any choice over who we fall in love with.
We do (normally) have complete control over what kinds of relationships we form.
We do not have much control over the way sexuality and 'sexual orientation' are constructed in the culture and the historical moment in which we happen to live.
We do have some control over what sexuality we choose to identify with and how we choose to project that identity.
So let's stop it with this "we don't choose to be gay" bollocks. This is true only in one sense: in the narrow sense of individual attraction. In many other ways, it turns out we have a fair bit of choice after all.
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One could argue that people choose to be STRAIGHT… because most children prefer to play and associate with their own gender and consider the other gender "icky" until they get older and perhaps peer pressure and society steers them in a different direction.
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I'm a bit sick of the idea that gay people have no choice at all about what we do, as though we're some sort of animal or automaton that just acts out of blind unthinking instinct. Let's be quite clear: we do have quite a bit of choice.
We do not have any choice over who we are attracted to.
We do (normally) have complete control over how we act on our attractions.
We do not have any choice over who we fall in love with.
We do (normally) have complete control over what kinds of relationships we form.
We do not have much control over the way sexuality and 'sexual orientation' are constructed in the culture and the historical moment in which we happen to live.
We do have some control over what sexuality we choose to identify with and how we choose to project that identity.
So let's stop it with this "we don't choose to be gay" bollocks. This is true only in one sense: in the narrow sense of individual attraction. In many other ways, it turns out we have a fair bit of choice after all.
"We do not have any choice over who we are attracted to." - that is the point of ""we don't choose to be gay" - i am aware that what we do re : how we act etc is all choice but the ""we don't choose to be gay" phrase is simply "i did not choose my attraction to the same sex" - which you, rightly, pointed out is not something you can choose
I am a man attracted to men not women.. the rest is always a choice, in any sexuality.. I didn't choose to be a man solely attracted to men
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You don't realize the word means the same thing?! :blink:
You choose to be gay (which is s political label) but you dont choose to be homosexual (which is a sexual orientation).
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GO TO HELL >:D
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Big mouth
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I wasn't super thrilled about Jezza saying this at the time, but in the grand scheme of things he could punch a baby and I'd still want him as PM.
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No one chooses to be gay, if being gay were a choice, NO ONE would be gay because NO ONE likes to be judged that way by the world
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hmmm
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I know what you mean. If you're gay, you can choose to live according to your sexuality or live like a straight man. In that sense, yes we choose. But it's impossible in that case to be happy because you can't genuinely fake your sexuality I don't think!
Logically speaking, he does make a valid point. I mean, even gay people can 'choose to be straight', right? Let's just have a positive mind, and comprehend his words as 'choosing the wrong words' while trying to say "Choose to be the way they truly are".
With that said, it also makes sense that Corbyn 'choose to be a man', right? After all, anyone has the freedom to change gender.
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