Should #45 Be Impeached and Removed from Office?
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Wow, didn't think I'd see one of my old threads pop back up :cheers: I still believe he'll be impeached because of the reasons I listed. Nothing has really changed. All of this "nothing burger" talk does nothing to answer serious questions like: (1) Why were high-ranking officials from the president's campaign in direct conversation with Russian officials? (2) Why did those high-ranking campaign officials LIE about their conversations with the Russians? (3) How come the president won't provide evidence that definitely proves there were no illegal exchanges of money and/or information with any Russian officials by releasing his tax returns or documentation of where he received certain information? (4) Why is the president going against our very own intelligence agencies? (5) Why is the president quietly fighting recent sanctions against Russia passed unanimously by the Senate and currently being stalled in the House? Most of the questions are easy to squash, yet the president will not cooperate with the investigations to put an end to those questions. Why is that? If most of these questions could be tackled by him simply releasing his tax returns, then why won't he release them? If most of these questions could be tackled by him simply stating why he and those who work around him lied about previous interactions with Russians, then why not simply state the reasons for lying?
I have long said there has been no evidence of collusion and I still hold that belief. Nothing has been proven yet; however, because of the president's actions, nothing has been ruled out. If the president has nothing to hide, why not cooperate and prove he has nothing to hide?
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Unless he actually does go out on 5th avenue and shoot someone, he won't be impeached by this Congress. If the Democrats win back the House in 2018, that is a different story. Even under those circumstances, he would never be convicted in the Senate.67 Senators would have to vote to convict, a very high bar indeed.
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Unless he actually does go out on 5th avenue and shoot someone, he won't be impeached by this Congress. If the Democrats win back the House in 2018, that is a different story. Even under those circumstances, he would never be convicted in the Senate.67 Senators would have to vote to convict, a very high bar indeed.
I believe the Republicans will abandon him if his unpopularity brings them down far enough. There will come a point where they no longer defend him out of fear that they will lose everything.
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His approval rating among Republicans right now is 85%. It would have to drop below 50% for them to drop him. Otherwise, he could support primary challengers in their safe, gerrymandered seats.
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His approval rating among Republicans right now is 85%. It would have to drop below 50% for them to drop him. Otherwise, he could support primary challengers in their safe, gerrymandered seats.
That's very true for gerrymandered seats, but what about statewide positions such as senate seats and governors? Remember in 2006 when George W. Bush's popularity tanked severely? The left became very enthusiastic and turned up in general election numbers while the right turned out in their typical midterm fashion and got completely wiped out. You're right, we're not there yet but I'm saying there will come a time where we do get there and it will most likely happen prior to the 2018 midterms. I could be wrong but judging by what happened in 2006, it's hard to say for sure. The current president did not start out with a decent approval of Americans the way President Bush did, nor has he been able to rally the country following a tragic event like 9/11 the way President Bush did which got him 90%+ approval ratings and showed us how much of a leader he could be. Also, it's very standard that–-without a 9/11 type situation---the party of the incumbent president loses control of Congress after that first midterm election. His approval among Republicans will not matter if millions turn out as a referendum on his presidency so far, which is what usually happens to a president in his first term.
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it is hard to predict when the Russia investigation will come to a head because th pace it it is so different from other presidential scandals. In the space of 6 months we have gone from Trump and and associates indignantly denying they even had contacts with Russians to Don Jr. admitting himself that he was eager to get dirt on Hillary no matter what its provenance. Who believes that Trump Sr. did not know of his son's efforts? That "boy" cannot take a shit without his father's permission. I also don't think for a minute that once it was publicly announced that Russia hacked the DNC, that the Trump campaign did not use its Russia contacts to exploit that information to their best advantage. I also think That Kushner's regional database (based on the sale of MAGA hats) was shared with the Russians so they could micro-target their social media bots.
All of that will be, at the very least, conspiracy to violate Federal Election law. -
Unless he actually does go out on 5th avenue and shoot someone, he won't be impeached by this Congress. If the Democrats win back the House in 2018, that is a different story. Even under those circumstances, he would never be convicted in the Senate.67 Senators would have to vote to convict, a very high bar indeed.
I hope the dems win in 2018. That way the dems, and anti-trump repubs can form a bipartisan coalition to take down #45.
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I hope the dems win in 2018. That way the dems, and anti-trump repubs can form a bipartisan coalition to take down #45.
No need. The Republicans are going to impeach Trump.
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Unless he actually does go out on 5th avenue and shoot someone, he won't be impeached by this Congress. If the Democrats win back the House in 2018, that is a different story. Even under those circumstances, he would never be convicted in the Senate.67 Senators would have to vote to convict, a very high bar indeed.
I believe the Republicans will abandon him if his unpopularity brings them down far enough. There will come a point where they no longer defend him out of fear that they will lose everything.
He is more popular and has better approval ratings than the GOP in the House or Senate. What I predict is that we will see a lot of new faces elected in 2018, they just will be fresh Republican faces to unseat the old ones.
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Unless he actually does go out on 5th avenue and shoot someone, he won't be impeached by this Congress. If the Democrats win back the House in 2018, that is a different story. Even under those circumstances, he would never be convicted in the Senate.67 Senators would have to vote to convict, a very high bar indeed.
I believe the Republicans will abandon him if his unpopularity brings them down far enough. There will come a point where they no longer defend him out of fear that they will lose everything.
He is more popular and has better approval ratings than the GOP in the House or Senate. What I predict is that we will see a lot of new faces elected in 2018, they just will be fresh Republican faces to unseat the old ones.
That's not saying much, they're in the 18-22% approval range and he's in the 32-36% approval range. Also, you're leaving out the millions of people who did not vote but DO NOT want him as their president. People who sat it out because they thought Hillary would win, they will turnout to make sure he's stopped next year if he's not removed by then. Republicans are doomed and they know it, which is why they're throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks.
Either way, I still believe he'll be removed from office just as Allan Lichtman, who is never wrong, predicted. He predicted the win and he's has also predicted the impeachment and removal. There's no way the Republicans will sink with this president. They'll throw him under the bus to save themselves the moment collusion is proven or Mueller finds something incriminating enough. It still won't help them. The president ran and won as a Republican and he's unpopular with the MAJORITY of Americans just like the Republican party is, which means once he is impeached he will not have the support of the people to help him; only the flimsy number of people (~77,000) that helped him win the electoral college.
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