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    PSA: I was suspicious for a while, but I'm convinced

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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator
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      If I started enforcing the rules in the way liberals want, you'd be crying on the help desk far more than you guys do now.

      Oddly, liberals violate the rules as much, if not more, than the conservatives but complain about the rules not being followed/enforced almost exclusively.

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      • FrederickF Offline
        Frederick
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        @raphjd:

        If I started enforcing the rules in the way liberals want, you'd be crying on the help desk far more than you guys do now.

        Oddly, liberals violate the rules as much, if not more, than the conservatives but complain about the rules not being followed/enforced almost exclusively.

        And that's the truth!
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          flozen
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          @raphjd:

          If I started enforcing the rules in the way liberals want, you'd be crying on the help desk far more than you guys do now.

          This feels very much like you're drawing an assumption, in the belief it absolves you from doing your job.  It doesn't.

          @raphjd:

          Oddly, liberals violate the rules as much, if not more, than the conservatives but complain about the rules not being followed/enforced almost exclusively.

          This is observationally untrue, but since you made the claim, go ahead and share the method by which you can prove it.  Or, are we back to alternative facts?

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          • FrederickF Offline
            Frederick
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            @flozen:

            @abcddddd:

            Normally I'd just keep it to myself and move on, but I'd like to save some of the more functioning forum-goers some unnecessary stress.

            At the very least, Frederick and mhorndisk are straight up trolls. In the sense that they're behaving like rabid Trump supporters on a gay forum for behind the scenes chuckles. Possibly raphjd too. Some (most) of the stuff they say is borderline caricature and completely written for provocation and outrage.

            Just consider this a possibility before you respond to anything they say.

            There's more than a little truth in your assessment, abcddddd, but you happened to walk in during a period where we are discussing the reduction of name-attached, personal characterizations.  You're a casual user, though, and so your post is probably influenced by the hundreds of such posts that have been permitted, unfortunately, to flourish in recent times.

            In any case, a small number of us are trying to restore the proper functioning of this forum, currently a dumping ground for writers who seek to do little more than provoke and outrage.  (Actually, that's prohibited by forum rules.)

            We (and I'm guessing, you) would prefer that the Politics & Debate board follow GT's written rules of conduct, established in part to shut down repeated and "warned" flamers, lovers of vulgarity, and off-topic distractions.

            A new post that addresses many of your observations:

            https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=50735.msg275679#msg275679

            In any case, nice to have the input, you alphabet lover!

            Have you run out of things to bitch about?  This is a repeat of one of your previous messages.  
            That is another example of spam.
            Even Sutieday finally posted a meaningful message today!  I even UPvoted his comment!

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            • F Offline
              flozen
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              No, F,  I wrote on a similar topic – moderator oversight -- several times in the past few days, but each reply was thoughtfully adapted to the thread and the prior posts.

              And all you've got is canned spam.  You should check that "Sell By" date.

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                pppucci
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                Despite Raphjd's comments, I think the vapid name-calling is certainly more prevalent on the right.  If down-voting comments without reading them is a violation of the rules, then perhaps there is blame to go around, but I don't see a rule against that.  It seems raphjd's comments are based on complaints against him to the helpdesk, which obviously are not part of the public forum.  I think an objective reading of the forum posts over the past few months will validate the OP.

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                  pppucci
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                  Here's some objective evidence.  Before these words were banned, "Trumptard" was used 19 times in this forum, while "libtard" was used 140 times.  How can you really state there is no difference between the groups?

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                    sutieday
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                    @pppucci:

                    Here's some objective evidence.  Before these words were banned, "Trumptard" was used 19 times in this forum, while "libtard" was used 140 times.  How can you really state there is no difference between the groups?

                    Our raphjd lives in the world of fake news and alternative facts.

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                      sutieday
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                      @raphjd:

                      If I started enforcing the rules in the way liberals want, you'd be crying on the help desk far more than you guys do now.

                      Oddly, liberals violate the rules as much, if not more, than the conservatives but complain about the rules not being followed/enforced almost exclusively.

                      Citation needed! Your bias is showing! If you enforced the rules we would likely see less direct attacks on users (which as against the rules). But, you'd prefer this form section to be filled with chaotic people who just want tension rather than reason and debate. Sadly, I doubt things will ever change here.

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                      • FrederickF Offline
                        Frederick
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                        @sutieday:

                        @raphjd:

                        If I started enforcing the rules in the way liberals want, you'd be crying on the help desk far more than you guys do now.

                        Oddly, liberals violate the rules as much, if not more, than the conservatives but complain about the rules not being followed/enforced almost exclusively.

                        Citation needed! Your bias is showing! If you enforced the rules we would likely see less direct attacks on users (which as against the rules). But, you'd prefer this form section to be filled with chaotic people who just want tension rather than reason and debate. Sadly, I doubt things will ever change here.

                        I have plenty of citations (examples) to support what Raphjd said.  99% of Sutieday's messages break the rules.

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                          sutieday
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                          @Frederick:

                          @sutieday:

                          @raphjd:

                          If I started enforcing the rules in the way liberals want, you'd be crying on the help desk far more than you guys do now.

                          Oddly, liberals violate the rules as much, if not more, than the conservatives but complain about the rules not being followed/enforced almost exclusively.

                          Citation needed! Your bias is showing! If you enforced the rules we would likely see less direct attacks on users (which as against the rules). But, you'd prefer this form section to be filled with chaotic people who just want tension rather than reason and debate. Sadly, I doubt things will ever change here.

                          I have plenty of citations (examples) to support what Raphjd said.   99% of Sutieday's messages break the rules.

                          Yet you have failed to provide at least one example in your post?

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                          • FrederickF Offline
                            Frederick
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                            @pppucci:

                            Despite Raphjd's comments, I think the vapid name-calling is certainly more prevalent on the right.  If down-voting comments without reading them is a violation of the rules, then perhaps there is blame to go around, but I don't see a rule against that.  It seems raphjd's comments are based on complaints against him to the helpdesk, which obviously are not part of the public forum.  I think an objective reading of the forum posts over the past few months will validate the OP.

                            Uh huh.. I know this trick.. you are trying to focus the blame for everything on Raphjd.  
                            That is complete nonsense.  
                            There is one mod on this site that I have issues with.. and that is why I'm forbidden from entering his part of the site that has nothing to do with the torrents nor the forums.   I got into it with him in the past, and got keel hauled for it - even though I was right.  Raphjd is extremely tolerant - which is proven by the fact you and the other bad boys are still here.  You try and argue in the chat room and you will find yourself looking for porn on Google and Yahoo searches  (actually, there is a shocking amount of porn on yahoo).

                            Basically.. when a mod tells you to "simma dah nah!"  you best do it!  
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                              Matie
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                              @flozen:

                              @raphjd:

                              If I started enforcing the rules in the way liberals want, you'd be crying on the help desk far more than you guys do now.

                              This feels very much like you're drawing an assumption, in the belief it absolves you from doing your job.  It doesn't.

                              @raphjd:

                              Oddly, liberals violate the rules as much, if not more, than the conservatives but complain about the rules not being followed/enforced almost exclusively.

                              This is observationally untrue, but since you made the claim, go ahead and share the method by which you can prove it.  Or, are we back to alternative facts?

                              I guess if he's the mod, he knows who's doing the complaining. Oh, and FAKE NEWS

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                                pppucci
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                                @Matie:

                                @flozen:

                                @raphjd:

                                If I started enforcing the rules in the way liberals want, you'd be crying on the help desk far more than you guys do now.

                                This feels very much like you're drawing an assumption, in the belief it absolves you from doing your job.  It doesn't.

                                @raphjd:

                                Oddly, liberals violate the rules as much, if not more, than the conservatives but complain about the rules not being followed/enforced almost exclusively.

                                This is observationally untrue, but since you made the claim, go ahead and share the method by which you can prove it.  Or, are we back to alternative facts?

                                I guess if he's the mod, he knows who's doing the complaining. Oh, and FAKE NEWS

                                There is a difference between reporting posts to the moderator, reporting the moderator to the help desk, and flooding the forum with insults.  Raphjd has apparently conflated all three.

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                                • raphjdR Offline
                                  raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                  @flozen:

                                  @raphjd:

                                  If I started enforcing the rules in the way liberals want, you'd be crying on the help desk far more than you guys do now.

                                  This feels very much like you're drawing an assumption, in the belief it absolves you from doing your job.  It doesn't.

                                  @raphjd:

                                  Oddly, liberals violate the rules as much, if not more, than the conservatives but complain about the rules not being followed/enforced almost exclusively.

                                  This is observationally untrue, but since you made the claim, go ahead and share the method by which you can prove it.  Or, are we back to alternative facts?

                                  We see it here in various threads.

                                  However, you'll need to become a staff member to see the Reported Posts section, help desk and others.

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                                    pppucci
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                                    @raphjd:

                                    We see it here in various threads.

                                    Seriously, please clarify. what is the "it" you refer to?  If it is sutieday and Frederick going after each other like two pre-menstrual bitches, then both are at fault.  And Raphjd, you are noticeably silent when faced with facts–-like the "Trumptard" vs ""libtard" statistics.

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                                    • raphjdR Offline
                                      raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                      "IT" refers to rule violations by liberals while crying about rule violations.

                                      Let's use your example of Fred and Sutie.

                                      They get into a slagging match.   Sutie and other liberals will complain in the forums, the help desk, reported topics and site email.     I'll be called "alt-right" and accused of abusing my powers and whatnot.    Fred won't complain and just get on with it.

                                      Why are you insistent on limiting it to "Trumptard" vs "libtard"?    Expand it out and you'll see that both sides are pretty equal in name calling.

                                      I was called a racist simply because I pointed out 2 proven lies told by Rep John Lewis.  I didn't mention race, just that he lied.   That was enough to make me a racist.   Why do you want to ignore things like that, if you want to talk about facts.

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                                      • FrederickF Offline
                                        Frederick
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                                        @raphjd:

                                        "IT" refers to rule violations by liberals while crying about rule violations.

                                        Let's use your example of Fred and Sutie.

                                        They get into a slagging match.   Sutie and other liberals will complain in the forums, the help desk, reported topics and site email.     I'll be called "alt-right" and accused of abusing my powers and whatnot.    Fred won't complain and just get on with it.

                                        Why are you insistent on limiting it to "Trumptard" vs "libtard"?    Expand it out and you'll see that both sides are pretty equal in name calling.

                                        I was called a racist simply because I pointed out 2 proven facts told by Rep John Lewis.  I didn't mention race, just that he lied.   That was enough to make me a racist.   Why do you want to ignore things like that, if you want to talk about facts.

                                        Once again.. the "left" try to isolate a specific person to attack and ignore the rest.  Not going to work.  This time they are trying to blame all the problems on myself and Sutieday.    Another day it's just mhorndisk and royalcrown.. another day it's just Raphjd and DrWas.. and then there is ppucci and a gaggle of other leftists.

                                        By the way.. Rep John Lewis has been arrested over 45 times.  He is a unique character in that he both behaves and LOOKS like a rebellious 4 year old who is throwing a neverending tantrum - which is why he has been arrested over 45 times.

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                                          sutieday
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                                          @raphjd:

                                          "IT" refers to rule violations by liberals while crying about rule violations.

                                          Let's use your example of Fred and Sutie.

                                          They get into a slagging match.   Sutie and other liberals will complain in the forums, the help desk, reported topics and site email.     I'll be called "alt-right" and accused of abusing my powers and whatnot.    Fred won't complain and just get on with it.

                                          Why are you insistent on limiting it to "Trumptard" vs "libtard"?    Expand it out and you'll see that both sides are pretty equal in name calling.

                                          I was called a racist simply because I pointed out 2 proven lies told by Rep John Lewis.  I didn't mention race, just that he lied.   That was enough to make me a racist.   Why do you want to ignore things like that, if you want to talk about facts.

                                          How about ban all name calling and just use "liberal" and "conservative"??? But, I'm sure you get a kick out of the incivility.

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                                            flozen
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                                            @pppucci:

                                            Here's some objective evidence.  Before these words were banned, "Trumptard" was used 19 times in this forum, while "libtard" was used 140 times.  How can you really state there is no difference between the groups?

                                            Yes, and in the future, I will respond to particularly misleading posts about inflated liberal offenses with the sign-off, "19-140."  This will stand as a reminder of how often these baseless alternative facts are peddled around here.  And it will look a little bit like

                                            19-140

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