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    Trumpt**** support the Presidents decision to leave the Paris agreement

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      beast775
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      Exxon is on of the companies that begged Trump not to leave the agreement.  The same old tired rhetoric from the left.

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        sutieday
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        @beast775:

        Exxon is on of the companies that begged Trump not to leave the agreement.  The same old tired rhetoric from the left.

        "Begged" way to exaggerate. Also, companies, like politicians, are known to say one thing in public and another in private.

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          mhorndisk
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          Time to celebrate!!! I  :love: TRUMP!!! If you don't like it, too bad. I bet you didn't even watch his speech explaining the reasons why. He made a DAMN good speech. If you don't agree, then take some of his points and explain why they're wrong. Bet you can't. All you can say is, "congratulations for being wrong." Same old song and dance from the libtards. NO rationale. NO reason, just blind stupidity. Enough of this garbage about global warming. CO2 is what trees breath and we exhale. The evidence that this is damaging is absurd. The only ones who will benefit from this are the global bankers who through the IMF have concocted this carbon tax scheme to enrich themselves further and create their world bank dictatorship. If you don't like it, I don't give one little tiny crap, because you're wrong, and you don't know what you're talking about.

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            sutieday
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            @mhorndisk:

            Time to celebrate!!! I  :love: TRUMP!!! If you don't like it, too bad. I bet you didn't even watch his speech explaining the reasons why. He made a DAMN good speech. If you don't agree, then take some of his points and explain why they're wrong. Bet you can't. All you can say is, "congratulations for being wrong." Same old song and dance from the libtards. NO rationale. NO reason, just blind stupidity. Enough of this garbage about global warming. CO2 is what trees breath and we exhale. The evidence that this is damaging is absurd. The only ones who will benefit from this are the global bankers who through the IMF have concocted this carbon tax scheme to enrich themselves further and create their world bank dictatorship. If you don't like it, I don't give one little tiny crap, because you're wrong, and you don't know what you're talking about.

            I don't have time to listen to that orangutan speak, no offense to orangutans.

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              mhorndisk
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              My point EXACTLY. You just listen to the celebrities and worship them like the stars and if they come out against it, you do to. Why? Because you are a FOLLOWER, a sheep. Sorry, but it's True. You have no actual opinion based on fact, other than just the fact that you don't like him. Why are you even making this post, acting like you care so much about something when you don't actually care to inform yourself about all the information? It's ridiculous, and pathetic. I think that you don't actually care about the issues, you just don't like him personally, and therefore, are incapable of actually being a part of the conversation, because you have nothing to say, other than, "he's orange." This is the epitome of ill-informed, mis-read, pea-brained, nonsense. Get a life and just go back to porn, because you obviously just don't have enough brains to think for yourself or analyze critical issues.

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                sutieday
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                @mhorndisk:

                My point EXACTLY. You just listen to the celebrities and worship them like the stars and if they come out against it, you do to. Why? Because you are a FOLLOWER, a sheep. Sorry, but it's True. You have no actual opinion based on fact, other than just the fact that you don't like him. Why are you even making this post, acting like you care so much about something when you don't actually care to inform yourself about all the information? It's ridiculous, and pathetic. I think that you don't actually care about the issues, you just don't like him personally, and therefore, are incapable of actually being a part of the conversation, because you have nothing to say, other than, "he's orange." This is the epitome of ill-informed, mis-read, pea-brained, nonsense. Get a life and just go back to porn, because you obviously just don't have enough brains to think for yourself or analyze critical issues.

                Isn't Trump a celebrity? Don't you follow him?

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                  mhorndisk
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                  Being a celebrity in and of itself isn't the issue. You should know that. Why do I need to explain this? Good grief.

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                    sutieday
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                    Trump as no real positions, flipflopper in chief

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                      mhorndisk
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                      Dude. Are you even 18 years old? I don't understand why I'm having to explain this to you. If you want to say he's a flip-flopper, or anything, you have to provide an example, otherwise it doesn't mean anything… What about that is so hard to comprehend?

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                        sutieday
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                        Too many for me to count:

                        http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/apr/27/tracking-trumps-policy-reversals-his-first-100-day/

                        SAD!

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                          mhorndisk
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                          So again you prove that you are just a follower, not a leader, and depend on others to think for you, and don't actually care about anything. Go ahead and put one of those examples in YOUR OWN WORDS. Otherwise, you have no opinion of your own, and have nothing to add.

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                            PUTIPUELCA
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                            @mhorndisk:

                            Time to celebrate!!! I  :love: TRUMP!!! If you don't like it, too bad. I bet you didn't even watch his speech explaining the reasons why. He made a DAMN good speech. If you don't agree, then take some of his points and explain why they're wrong. Bet you can't. All you can say is, "congratulations for being wrong." Same old song and dance from the libtards. NO rationale. NO reason, just blind stupidity. Enough of this garbage about global warming. CO2 is what trees breath and we exhale. The evidence that this is damaging is absurd. The only ones who will benefit from this are the global bankers who through the IMF have concocted this carbon tax scheme to enrich themselves further and create their world bank dictatorship. If you don't like it, I don't give one little tiny crap, because you're wrong, and you don't know what you're talking about.

                            Can you summarize or just mention some of the points he made?

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                              sutieday
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                              @mhorndisk:

                              So again you prove that you are just a follower, not a leader, and depend on others to think for you, and don't actually care about anything. Go ahead and put one of those examples in YOUR OWN WORDS. Otherwise, you have no opinion of your own, and have nothing to add.

                              Typical Trump shill, deny all facts based on bias.

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                                mhorndisk
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                                No I will not summarize for you. You need to do your diligence if you actually care so much. And the other guy, you would present your strongest argument if you had one.

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                                  mhorndisk
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                                  I love how you can thumbs down without having an argument or anything to say. All it shows is that we are winning. Thank you! You obviously have nothing to say and no reason other than, "he's orange." This is why you lost the election, and will continue to lose seats, and respect. Your time is most definitely OVER. So get OVER it. You and your kind are FINISHED.

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                                    raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                    While there is massive scandals on the pro climate change side, it's clearly a real thing, even if it's being exaggerated.

                                    Has anyone actually read the Paris agreement?  Does it treat the US fairly?  Is it reasonable?  Will it work?

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                                      gaypraha2
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                                      If you want to say he's a flip-flopper,

                                      example: his position on NATO changed from his campaign to now…

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                                        deckbox2
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                                        @mhorndisk:

                                        Time to celebrate!!! I  :love: TRUMP!!! If you don't like it, too bad. I bet you didn't even watch his speech explaining the reasons why. He made a DAMN good speech. If you don't agree, then take some of his points and explain why they're wrong. Bet you can't. All you can say is, "congratulations for being wrong." Same old song and dance from the libtards. NO rationale. NO reason, just blind stupidity. Enough of this garbage about global warming. CO2 is what trees breath and we exhale. The evidence that this is damaging is absurd. The only ones who will benefit from this are the global bankers who through the IMF have concocted this carbon tax scheme to enrich themselves further and create their world bank dictatorship. If you don't like it, I don't give one little tiny crap, because you're wrong, and you don't know what you're talking about.

                                        …. are you idiot?... CO2 is not what tree breath, tree breath oxygen - O2, his ability is through photosyntesis to create about 2x more oxygen, but he need half of it to survive, so tree doesnt breath CO2... Problem is not about this, problem is about global warming, humanity is cutting down more and more trees while producing more CO2 and trees cant acumulate it fast enough, (in some cases, forest can even MAKE more CO2 then acumulating - when they are dying, was bad year in term of weather, or it need to be alive ceartin length but humans cutted it too much early) I am from czech, 30% of our lands are trees, but they can only acumulate about 5% of emission of our country - they main problem why it is damaging is because CO2 was about 300 ppm - particle per milion, now it is 400 ppm, in 20-40 years it will be more, global temperature will raise about 2 C, - little? no, 1 C is for habitats fauna and flora either 100 km north, or 200-300 meters up, melting ice, increasing sea level, thats a lot, from my point of view - trump want people to recognize him, because if USA will leave - they can create mroe things with worse technology - more emission - but more profit - he make USA rich more for few years, he dont care what will be in 20y, because he will be dead

                                        my main answer - Same old song and dance from the libtards/trumptards. NO rationale. NO reason, just blind stupidity. it is double-edged sword for you...
                                        and please stop treating nature as something that is doing things for humans, stop treating it like it is their duty to acumulate CO2 from humans... it isnt

                                        on other side - 3 big countries and a lot of big cities in USA are saying that they will still uphold this agreement, + Trump was saying that the temperature will increase only about 0,3 from study from MIT i think, writers of this study are saying he didnt understood their study and he took data from old study before USA agreed with Climate change, their newer study is 0,6 - 1,1 C

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                                          Spintendo
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                                          @beast775:

                                          Once signed, the next step in the ratification process is to send the treaty to the US Senate

                                          The Paris Agreement's authority derives from the [desc=United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change]UNFCCC[/desc] treaty which the Senate ratified 25 years ago.

                                          @mhorndisk:

                                          Time to celebrate!!!

                                          You're a little early to the party. The withdrawal from the Agreement doesn't take effect until November, 2020.


                                          The speed of light from Earth to the Moon in real time (c = 3×10^8 m/s)

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                                            Frederick
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                                            @raphjd:

                                            While there is massive scandals on the pro climate change side, it's clearly a real thing, even if it's being exaggerated.

                                            Has anyone actually read the Paris agreement?   Does it treat the US fairly?   Is it reasonable?   Will it work?

                                            No treaty works unless all the participants adhere to the treaty. 
                                            Typically, everything the US gets involved in winds up with the US adhering to the treaties, and the other countries ignoring it.
                                            You think China would ever adhere to a CO2 emissions treaty?  Not a chance.

                                            I am dubious about what can be done about CO2 emissions anyway..  volcanoes and blown up oil wells such as in Iraq have put a tremendous amount of CO2 into the air.

                                            I have another example.. several years ago, there were all sorts of restrictions on the use of chlorofluorocarbons..  CFCs.. however, the CFC's from industry eclipsed that of civilian use - so it seems that priorities are out of order.

                                            In other words.. we need to get our priorities straight FIRST.. before imposing restrictions where they might not even be effective.

                                            Another example of that.. water usage.  The vast amount of water wasted is by agriculture.  So, they should focus on agriculture FIRST.

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