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    Trumpt**** support the Presidents decision to leave the Paris agreement

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      beast775
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      The madness lies with the idiots that signed it!  It would cost the U.S. hundreds of billions of dollars which we the taxpayers would send to third world countries. It would also raise electricity rates for millions of Americans  Also notice that "Big Business" begged President trump to not withdraw.  Funny how the left is always claiming that the Republicans are in bed with "Big Business"

      "The only way to ensure the participation of the United States and China was to make the agreement nonbinding. The Obama Administration insisted on it, well aware that the U.S. Senate wouldn’t ratify a formal treaty"
      http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/skeptical-note-paris-climate-deal

      "If the President decides that a treaty is in the nation's best interests (and does not violate the US Constitution!), the President (or designated representative) will sign the treaty. Signing a treaty does not make it become law! It means that the US Government believes the treaty is a good idea, and commits the President to seeking ratification. Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright signed the CRC on behalf of the US in 1995.

      Sending the Treaty to the U.S. Senate:

      Once signed, the next step in the ratification process is to send the treaty to the US Senate, more specifically, to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations."
      http://www.childrightscampaign.org/why-ratify/how-does-the-united-states-ratify-treaties

      No senators in their right minds would ratify that treaty and as pointed out above Obama knew it!

      Once again Obama sold us a bucket of shit and called it a gold bullion!

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        aadam101
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        Isn't having a planet to live on a little more important than money?  Trumptards really don't get it.

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          sutieday
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          Trump is in bed with the oil companies, his Sec. of State was a ExonnMobil exec!

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            beast775
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            Exxon is on of the companies that begged Trump not to leave the agreement.  The same old tired rhetoric from the left.

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              sutieday
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              @beast775:

              Exxon is on of the companies that begged Trump not to leave the agreement.  The same old tired rhetoric from the left.

              "Begged" way to exaggerate. Also, companies, like politicians, are known to say one thing in public and another in private.

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                mhorndisk
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                Time to celebrate!!! I  :love: TRUMP!!! If you don't like it, too bad. I bet you didn't even watch his speech explaining the reasons why. He made a DAMN good speech. If you don't agree, then take some of his points and explain why they're wrong. Bet you can't. All you can say is, "congratulations for being wrong." Same old song and dance from the libtards. NO rationale. NO reason, just blind stupidity. Enough of this garbage about global warming. CO2 is what trees breath and we exhale. The evidence that this is damaging is absurd. The only ones who will benefit from this are the global bankers who through the IMF have concocted this carbon tax scheme to enrich themselves further and create their world bank dictatorship. If you don't like it, I don't give one little tiny crap, because you're wrong, and you don't know what you're talking about.

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                  sutieday
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                  @mhorndisk:

                  Time to celebrate!!! I  :love: TRUMP!!! If you don't like it, too bad. I bet you didn't even watch his speech explaining the reasons why. He made a DAMN good speech. If you don't agree, then take some of his points and explain why they're wrong. Bet you can't. All you can say is, "congratulations for being wrong." Same old song and dance from the libtards. NO rationale. NO reason, just blind stupidity. Enough of this garbage about global warming. CO2 is what trees breath and we exhale. The evidence that this is damaging is absurd. The only ones who will benefit from this are the global bankers who through the IMF have concocted this carbon tax scheme to enrich themselves further and create their world bank dictatorship. If you don't like it, I don't give one little tiny crap, because you're wrong, and you don't know what you're talking about.

                  I don't have time to listen to that orangutan speak, no offense to orangutans.

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                    mhorndisk
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                    My point EXACTLY. You just listen to the celebrities and worship them like the stars and if they come out against it, you do to. Why? Because you are a FOLLOWER, a sheep. Sorry, but it's True. You have no actual opinion based on fact, other than just the fact that you don't like him. Why are you even making this post, acting like you care so much about something when you don't actually care to inform yourself about all the information? It's ridiculous, and pathetic. I think that you don't actually care about the issues, you just don't like him personally, and therefore, are incapable of actually being a part of the conversation, because you have nothing to say, other than, "he's orange." This is the epitome of ill-informed, mis-read, pea-brained, nonsense. Get a life and just go back to porn, because you obviously just don't have enough brains to think for yourself or analyze critical issues.

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                      sutieday
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                      @mhorndisk:

                      My point EXACTLY. You just listen to the celebrities and worship them like the stars and if they come out against it, you do to. Why? Because you are a FOLLOWER, a sheep. Sorry, but it's True. You have no actual opinion based on fact, other than just the fact that you don't like him. Why are you even making this post, acting like you care so much about something when you don't actually care to inform yourself about all the information? It's ridiculous, and pathetic. I think that you don't actually care about the issues, you just don't like him personally, and therefore, are incapable of actually being a part of the conversation, because you have nothing to say, other than, "he's orange." This is the epitome of ill-informed, mis-read, pea-brained, nonsense. Get a life and just go back to porn, because you obviously just don't have enough brains to think for yourself or analyze critical issues.

                      Isn't Trump a celebrity? Don't you follow him?

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                        mhorndisk
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                        Being a celebrity in and of itself isn't the issue. You should know that. Why do I need to explain this? Good grief.

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                          sutieday
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                          Trump as no real positions, flipflopper in chief

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                            mhorndisk
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                            Dude. Are you even 18 years old? I don't understand why I'm having to explain this to you. If you want to say he's a flip-flopper, or anything, you have to provide an example, otherwise it doesn't mean anything… What about that is so hard to comprehend?

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                              sutieday
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                              Too many for me to count:

                              http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/apr/27/tracking-trumps-policy-reversals-his-first-100-day/

                              SAD!

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                                mhorndisk
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                                So again you prove that you are just a follower, not a leader, and depend on others to think for you, and don't actually care about anything. Go ahead and put one of those examples in YOUR OWN WORDS. Otherwise, you have no opinion of your own, and have nothing to add.

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                                  PUTIPUELCA
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                                  @mhorndisk:

                                  Time to celebrate!!! I  :love: TRUMP!!! If you don't like it, too bad. I bet you didn't even watch his speech explaining the reasons why. He made a DAMN good speech. If you don't agree, then take some of his points and explain why they're wrong. Bet you can't. All you can say is, "congratulations for being wrong." Same old song and dance from the libtards. NO rationale. NO reason, just blind stupidity. Enough of this garbage about global warming. CO2 is what trees breath and we exhale. The evidence that this is damaging is absurd. The only ones who will benefit from this are the global bankers who through the IMF have concocted this carbon tax scheme to enrich themselves further and create their world bank dictatorship. If you don't like it, I don't give one little tiny crap, because you're wrong, and you don't know what you're talking about.

                                  Can you summarize or just mention some of the points he made?

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                                    sutieday
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                                    @mhorndisk:

                                    So again you prove that you are just a follower, not a leader, and depend on others to think for you, and don't actually care about anything. Go ahead and put one of those examples in YOUR OWN WORDS. Otherwise, you have no opinion of your own, and have nothing to add.

                                    Typical Trump shill, deny all facts based on bias.

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                                      mhorndisk
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                                      No I will not summarize for you. You need to do your diligence if you actually care so much. And the other guy, you would present your strongest argument if you had one.

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                                        mhorndisk
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                                        I love how you can thumbs down without having an argument or anything to say. All it shows is that we are winning. Thank you! You obviously have nothing to say and no reason other than, "he's orange." This is why you lost the election, and will continue to lose seats, and respect. Your time is most definitely OVER. So get OVER it. You and your kind are FINISHED.

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                                          raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                          While there is massive scandals on the pro climate change side, it's clearly a real thing, even if it's being exaggerated.

                                          Has anyone actually read the Paris agreement?  Does it treat the US fairly?  Is it reasonable?  Will it work?

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                                            gaypraha2
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                                            If you want to say he's a flip-flopper,

                                            example: his position on NATO changed from his campaign to now…

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