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    • W Offline
      wohdin
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      @raphjd:

      You haven't denounced the violence by your side.

      How about you give me one meaningful statistic (that isn't fake or conspiracy theory nonsense) on non-whites attacking whites, women attacking men, LGBT people attacking heteros, "liberals" attacking "conservatives", or anything of the sort before you look like a damn fool in public again.

      Yes, there are stupid people out there doing stupid things, and that's very true of both sides. It is an undisputable, numerical FACT, however, that YOUR side is by far the more violent and aggressive of the bunch. We're not the ones bullying, assaulting, and murdering white conservatives just for being white conservatives. Yes, we have our own problems like with recognizing and addressing microaggressions and institutional discrimination, but your guys are literally shoving women who just happen to be wearing hijabs down flights of stairs in public.

      And while I do not condone violence of ANY kind, be it individual or institutional, to be perfectly honest, I'm not at all surprised to see people on the left showing more anger than they normally do. The fact of the matter is that we've gotten to a point where we can't afford to be not angry about the state of the world anymore, because our passivity has let it become so fucked up thanks to people like Trump and the alt-right. After all, people can only be so nice in the face of blind, aggressive hate before they snap. It's like you folks always love to say: "it's just the pendulum swinging back in the other direction." And now that you guys are getting a taste of your own medicine, you can't handle it. Sad.

      Just remember, kid: you don't have to worry about someone murdering you just for existing in public like most people of color do in most parts of the white world. We do.

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      • raphjdR Online
        raphjd Forum Administrator
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        Ah, if you don't like it it's "fake".  Ok.

        "Micro-aggressions", redefining racism so only whites can be racist, redefining sexism so only men can be sexist is what the right is fighting against.    We don't buy any of that shit.

        Whites are more likely to be killed by blacks than the other way around.

        43% of cop killers are black, while only making up 13% of the US population.  The numbers are even worse when you look at all cop shootings.

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          Dene
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          @raphjd:

          @Drwas:

          @raphjd:

          @Drwas:

          Look at what happened in Oregon on Friday.
          When will Traitor tRump start denouncing all these right-wing extremists?

          https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=50018.0

          You haven't denounced the violence by your side.

          I'm not the President!

          Ah, so only the President can condemn the violence.    Gottcha.

          noone actually said that.. he asked when is the president going to condemn violence from his side of politics.. two different things - he seems to only condemn the violence that it suits him to do so

          ALL violence is violence and should be condemned.. but everyone seems to have excuses, or worse, weird justifications - there is no justification to be had..EVER - BOTH sides should be condemning BOTH sides

          debating politics always seems to forget that these are PEOPLE - if you are ok with someone being dead, because there views were different to yours or they "deserve" it somehow… then you need therapy

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            mhorndisk
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            The problem with your statement is that we don't have violence on the right to the degree that we have it on the left. Look at Berkeley, where the left blew stuff up and started fires and busted windows. Look at the Soros funded Antifa and BLM where they literally killed cops and were proud to do so. Soros said his favorite past-time was murdering Jews in Nazi Germany and the leftist organizations take his money. Look at the beating up of women and elderly by the left. The left is INSANE. There is NO comparison, not even close. Sure you might have an instance here and there of a white guy being violent, and there is no excuse for any violence, and Trump actually did say that if any of his supporters were doing that to cut it out. But the fact is, it's not happening on the right. It's only happening on the left. And I'm sure you're just going to ignore all the Antifa and BLM violence and instead point the finger elsewhere as per usual - and then you're going to say we're pointing the finger at Hillary, but the honest Truth is, and I think you know, the left is EXTRAORDINARILY violent like dogs with rabies.

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              jazuko
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              the left is becoming increasingly violent. that oregon shooter was even a Bernie supporter that people think supported trump.

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                aadam101
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                @mhorndisk:

                Look at Berkeley, where the left blew stuff up and started fires and busted windows.

                That isn't violence.  That is vandalism.  That doesn't compare to murdering innocent Americans in Oregon or a government official body slamming a citizen who is exercising his first amendment rights.  Everyday more and it becomes obvious how much conservatives hate America and really do want to live in a Communist country like Russia. Everybody says so.

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                  raphjd Forum Administrator
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                  @aadam101:

                  @mhorndisk:

                  Look at Berkeley, where the left blew stuff up and started fires and busted windows.

                  That isn't violence.  That is vandalism.  That doesn't compare to murdering innocent Americans in Oregon or a government official body slamming a citizen who is exercising his first amendment rights.  Everyday more and it becomes obvious how much conservatives hate America and really do want to live in a Communist country like Russia. Everybody says so.

                  Listen to that leftist cuckery.  "Smashing shit up isn't violence".    "Setting a building on fire with people in it is peaceful protesting."  "Setting a girl's hair on fire because she wore a Trump hat, is loving and caring."

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                    aadam101
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                    @raphjd:

                    @aadam101:

                    @mhorndisk:

                    Look at Berkeley, where the left blew stuff up and started fires and busted windows.

                    That isn't violence.  That is vandalism.  That doesn't compare to murdering innocent Americans in Oregon or a government official body slamming a citizen who is exercising his first amendment rights.  Everyday more and it becomes obvious how much conservatives hate America and really do want to live in a Communist country like Russia. Everybody says so.

                    Listen to that leftist cuckery.  "Smashing shit up isn't violence".    "Setting a building on fire with people in it is peaceful protesting."  "Setting a girl's hair on fire because she wore a Trump hat, is loving and caring."

                    And yet still none of that is murder.  It's also citizens protesting their government.

                    The people in Montana this week condoned a government official attacking a citizen just because he didn't like him.  Is that really how you want your government to treat you?  You might think it's funny this week but next week it may be a Liberal attacking a Conservative….....Be careful what you wish for.  This is what they do in Russia and North Korea.

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                      zryiiiii
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                      @raphjd:

                      @Drwas:

                      Look at what happened in Oregon on Friday.
                      When will Traitor tRump start denouncing all these right-wing extremists?

                      https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=50018.0

                      You haven't denounced the violence by your side.

                      Oops, sorry for the smashed windows and trash cans!

                      Now will you apologize for the people murdered by the nutcase egged on by our president agent orange?

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                        magentas
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                        @mhorndisk:

                        The problem with your statement is that we don't have violence on the right to the degree that we have it on the left.

                        This is a perfect example of your brainwashing. You read alt-right news, and they only tell you about violent incidents that occur that they can twist to blame on the left. They do not tell you about violent incidents that occur from people in right-wing groups, which are FAR FAR FAR more numerous.

                        Here are links you will ignore because they come from real news sites saying real news that you don't like, so you call it fake news:

                        RIGHT-WING EXTREMISTS ARE A BIGGER THREAT TO AMERICA THAN ISIS
                        http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html

                        "Left-wing terrorism used to be as big in the West as Islamic terrorism is now. This was back when the Soviet Union existed, when people believed that the Marxist revolution really could happen. Left-wing terrorism has, thankfully, faded considerably since the 1970s.
                        Right-wing terror has been on a worrying increase since 2008. Attacks are usually by loners with no allies, not (thankfully) organised groups. But the trend is increasing and is very worrying."

                        http://www.markhumphrys.com/left.right.violence.html

                        Since 9/11, right-wing violence has killed more in US than jihad
                        http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/politics/since-9-11-right-wing-violence-has-killed-more-in-us-than-jihad/article/381055#ixzz4iTmlYSvO

                        The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat
                        https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=0

                        In Germany, right-wing violence flourishing amid surge in online hate
                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/in-germany-right-wing-violence-flourishing-amid-surge-in-online-hate/2017/03/20/fc18d586-f867-11e6-aa1e-5f735ee31334_story.html?utm_term=.962a00178535

                        Now here, I have gone through the effort of doing a Google search, just like you could have done, and posted the real facts about left vs right terrorism. You will ignore the real facts completely, because they do not suport the mindset you want to have.

                        You will continue to pretend that left wingers are more violent, because that is how you want to see the world.

                        That is a difference between the mindset of conservatives vs liberals.

                        Liberals can learn new things, even if it contradicts our preconceptions.
                        Conservatives are incapable of learning anything that does not match their beliefs.

                        GO ahead and keep posting that liberals are more violent than conservatives to prove me right.

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                          aadam101
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                          @magentas:

                          Liberals can learn new things, even if it contradicts our preconceptions.
                          Conservatives are incapable of learning anything that does not match their beliefs.

                          That pretty much sums it up.

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                          • raphjdR Online
                            raphjd Forum Administrator
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                            @aadam101:

                            @raphjd:

                            @aadam101:

                            @mhorndisk:

                            Look at Berkeley, where the left blew stuff up and started fires and busted windows.

                            That isn't violence.  That is vandalism.  That doesn't compare to murdering innocent Americans in Oregon or a government official body slamming a citizen who is exercising his first amendment rights.  Everyday more and it becomes obvious how much conservatives hate America and really do want to live in a Communist country like Russia. Everybody says so.

                            Listen to that leftist cuckery.   "Smashing shit up isn't violence".    "Setting a building on fire with people in it is peaceful protesting."  "Setting a girl's hair on fire because she wore a Trump hat, is loving and caring."

                            And yet still none of that is murder.  It's also citizens protesting their government.

                            The people in Montana this week condoned a government official attacking a citizen just because he didn't like him.  Is that really how you want your government to treat you?  You might think it's funny this week but next week it may be a Liberal attacking a Conservative….....Be careful what you wish for.  This is what they do in Russia and North Korea.

                            You freak are fucked in the head.  "And yet still none of that is murder."

                            WTF?!

                            Knowingly setting an occupied building on fire has nothing to do with the government.  It's a bunch of fucking liberals being liberals.

                            Setting a girl's hair on fire because she wore a Trump hat is fucked up.  This is the kind of shit you lunatics are justifying.

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                              aadam101
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                              @raphjd:

                              @aadam101:

                              @raphjd:

                              @aadam101:

                              @mhorndisk:

                              Look at Berkeley, where the left blew stuff up and started fires and busted windows.

                              That isn't violence.  That is vandalism.  That doesn't compare to murdering innocent Americans in Oregon or a government official body slamming a citizen who is exercising his first amendment rights.  Everyday more and it becomes obvious how much conservatives hate America and really do want to live in a Communist country like Russia. Everybody says so.

                              Listen to that leftist cuckery.  "Smashing shit up isn't violence".    "Setting a building on fire with people in it is peaceful protesting."  "Setting a girl's hair on fire because she wore a Trump hat, is loving and caring."

                              And yet still none of that is murder.  It's also citizens protesting their government.

                              The people in Montana this week condoned a government official attacking a citizen just because he didn't like him.  Is that really how you want your government to treat you?  You might think it's funny this week but next week it may be a Liberal attacking a Conservative….....Be careful what you wish for.  This is what they do in Russia and North Korea.

                              You freak are fucked in the head.  "And yet still none of that is murder."

                              WTF?!

                              Knowingly setting an occupied building on fire has nothing to do with the government.  It's a bunch of fucking liberals being liberals.

                              Setting a girl's hair on fire because she wore a Trump hat is fucked up.  This is the kind of shit you lunatics are justifying.

                              We are in agreement. It's horrible that liberals did that.

                              That doesn't make it ok for government officials to shoot American people.

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                                hornyeboy
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                                @jazuko:

                                the left is becoming increasingly violent. that oregon shooter was even a Bernie supporter that people think supported trump.

                                He wanted to join trump's "SS"…

                                "If Donald Trump is the Next Hitler then I am joining his SS to put an end to Monotheist Question. All Zionist Jews, All Christians who do not follow Christ's teaching of Love, Charity, and Forgiveness And All Jihadi Muslims are going to Madagascar or the Ovens/FEMA Camps!!! Does this make me a fascist!!!"

                                http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/05/27/the-man-accused-of-max-double-murder-is-a-portland-white-supremacist-who-delivered-nazi-salutes-and-racial-slurs-at-a-free-speech-rally-last-month/

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                                  aadam101
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                                  Yet another Republican lawmaker got violent today when he attacked another lawmaker in the Texas House of Representatives and threatened to "put a bullet" in his head.

                                  “There was a threat made from Representative Rinaldi to put a bullet in one of my colleagues’ heads,” state Rep. Justin Rodriguez said during the news conference. “That kind of threatening language, he needs to be called out and held accountable for.”

                                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/29/a-texas-republican-called-ice-on-protesters-then-lawmakers-started-to-scuffle/?utm_term=.502cecfd4117

                                  The violence from the right is simply out of control.  Everybody says so.

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                                    jazuko
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                                    @hornyeboy:

                                    @jazuko:

                                    the left is becoming increasingly violent. that oregon shooter was even a Bernie supporter that people think supported trump.

                                    He wanted to join trump's "SS"…

                                    "If Donald Trump is the Next Hitler then I am joining his SS to put an end to Monotheist Question. All Zionist Jews, All Christians who do not follow Christ's teaching of Love, Charity, and Forgiveness And All Jihadi Muslims are going to Madagascar or the Ovens/FEMA Camps!!! Does this make me a fascist!!!"

                                    http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/05/27/the-man-accused-of-max-double-murder-is-a-portland-white-supremacist-who-delivered-nazi-salutes-and-racial-slurs-at-a-free-speech-rally-last-month/

                                    then why didnt he vote for trump? :whistle:

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                                      royalcrown89
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                                      Why are some of you conflating two very, very different issues? No, the violence on the left and right is not the same at all. The right has been reacting violently to the press actually holding them accountable to their words and actions, which is awful and needs to be condemned. Physically assaulting a reporter will get you arrested and charged, no matter where you are. All it will take is one Republican either shooting or gravely injuring a reporter or protester and after being charged with a felony, no others will follow in his footsteps and it would most likely destroy any chance they had with keeping their majority in Congress.

                                      The left has been reacting violently to FREE SPEECH. How can you be perfectly fine with people destroying property just because Milo or Ann Coulter wanted to give a speech? "Well, people didn't die…" is not a valid excuse for the behavior we've been seeing lately. This recent awful behavior cannot be defended just because we don't like what people like Milo and Ann say. When I was in college (2008-2012), we formed arguments to combat racist speech or homophobic speech, we didn't set a building on fire to keep racists and homophobes from stepping foot onto the campus. There are shitty people in the real world and you can't stuff cotton in your ears and shout "La la la, I can't hear you" all your life. You have to be able to prove WHY they're shitty, not destroy things or harm people to keep them from speaking.

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                                        aadam101
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                                        How soon until the first reporter is murdered by a sitting Republican?  My guess is that it will be a matter of weeks.

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