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    Both Parties Begin Calls to Impeach the Incompetent Trump

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    • P Offline
      pornofan
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      So has someone found evidence Trump is tweeting from a secure server?

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        Loki100
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        @amicusets:

        You do realize the "anonymous" sourcing that has fueled this one story being reported by every other paper "claims" information was said that has already been debunked by people in the actual room. Not all of these sources actually vet the information anymore and just rely on the original author to have done that. Every story has been debunked by actual named sources. Just because you wish something to be doesn't make it so.
        Deal in facts and not hyperventilating soundbites! You will not only be better informed, but less emotional.

        Sooo, your switching from this statement, "Where do you get your information, and how does it get through the tinfoil" now? Because earlier you were completely incredulous that the story even existed, now your going "ANONYMOUS SOURCES! ANONYMOUS SOURCES!" It makes you seem quite disingenuous that you would flip on a dime like that. You are also completely wrong, for the second time in a row. If you read all the links I sent you, you'd see that they cover the story as it developed, including details not in the original story and including details that other news organizations broke.

        Anywho, as far as named sources verifying things. How about the fact that Donald Trump verified the story himself?

        http://time.com/4780312/president-trump-russian-leak-tweet/

        You should pay more attention to the Trump cycle. Guess what happens every single time something like this happens? White House rats crawl out of the woodwork and deny and deny and deny… and then Trump verifies the story exactly as it was reported.

        Your last sentence? It applies to you, and not to me.

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          royalcrown89
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          @Loki100:

          Anywho, as far as named sources verifying things. How about the fact that Donald Trump verified the story himself?

          http://time.com/4780312/president-trump-russian-leak-tweet/

          You should pay more attention to the Trump cycle. Guess what happens every single time something like this happens? White House rats crawl out of the woodwork and deny and deny and deny… and then Trump verifies the story exactly as it was reported.

          Your last sentence? It applies to you, and not to me.

          You gotta remember, people like amicusets wants us to believe in an alternative reality where #45's own words aren't real or shouldn't be used to discredit him  :crazy2:

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            Frederick
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            @Loki100:

            If there is one thing we know now it is that the year and a half Clinton email saga was a completely political witchhunt and a non-scandal pursued strictly to achieve partisan ends. Trump began mishandling classified information the moment he began to get it, and now outing American operatives hostile foreign powers. Which is something so far beyond anything Clinton was even accused of doing that it beggars description.

            Anyone who even raised an eyebrow towards Clinton's handling of the arcane rules of IT management in the government should be screaming for Trump's impeachment.

            It was a witchhunt?  Hmm.. a witchhunt that thus far has failed to rid ourselves of that witch!
            Hillary was ORDERED by Congress to turn over 30,000 emails that were the property of the U.S. Government which she had illegally had on her own private server in an insecure location (her house).  Instead, she went to a private tech company, with no security clearance, and had them access and DELETE those messages AFTER she was ordered to produce them!  She should have been put in JAIL then.. and should still be put in jail.  You are comparing MOUNTAINS to molehills.

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              Frederick
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              @inkball:

              @Frederick:

              I don't suppose that Hillary instructing some private company with no security clearance to access and delete at least 30,000 e-mails, which were property of the U.S. government, AFTER being ordered by Congress to turn them over, is obstruction of justice? nooo….

              Happily, Hillary Clinton is not in power and will likely never get close to the presidency again.

              Unhappily, we have an incompetent, mentally impaired rapist in the White House who is jeopardizing the safety of the country and our allies.

              Mentally impaired rapist?  That is being a bit harsh on Bill Clinton.  Well, OK, Bill DID stick his cock in Monica Lewinsky's mouth, and got cum all over her dress, at a desk in the Oval Office… and also stuck a cigar up Monica's vagina..  and lied about it to his wife and to the American people and Congress (which is a felony).  But that is the only time Bill got NAILED.. he's done similar things hundreds if not thousands of times.

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                Loki100
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                @Frederick:

                It was a witchhunt?  Hmm.. a witchhunt that thus far has failed to rid ourselves of that witch!
                Hillary was ORDERED by Congress to turn over 30,000 emails that were the property of the U.S. Government which she had illegally had on her own private server in an insecure location (her house).   Instead, she went to a private tech company, with no security clearance, and had them access and DELETE those messages AFTER she was ordered to produce them!   She should have been put in JAIL then.. and should still be put in jail.   You are comparing MOUNTAINS to molehills.

                Why yes, that was my exact point. Trump just gave vital Israeli intelligence to Russia (Iran's ally), including outing an  operative in ISIS controlled territory… because he wanted to brag. That's a mountain so large it would dwarf Olympus Mons.

                Compared to that anything about Clinton's IT management is not even a molehill, it's a quark it is so minor.

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                  grrrowler
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                  @Frederick:

                  I don't suppose that Hillary instructing some private company with no security clearance to access and delete at least 30,000 e-mails, which were property of the U.S. government, AFTER being ordered by Congress to turn them over, is obstruction of justice? nooo….

                  The fact that her e-mails were investigated, and investigated, and investigated some more and the rabid GOPers couldn't find any evidence of actual wrong-doing means that there probably was no obstruction of justice. If the GOP had any legitimate excuse to convict of her a crime, she would already be convicted.

                  Beyond that, what Hillary did or didn't do has no bearing on Trump. She is not the POTUS and he is. He has to take responsibility for his own actions, apart from anything that Hillary may have done. For the sake of argument, let's say that Hillary is guilty of obstruction of justice. Does that mean that Trump isn't guilty of something because Hillary is? Certainly not.

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                    brianboru72
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                    @Frederick:

                    It was a witchhunt?  Hmm.. a witchhunt that thus far has failed to rid ourselves of that witch!
                    Hillary was ORDERED by Congress to turn over 30,000 emails that were the property of the U.S. Government which she had illegally had on her own private server in an insecure location (her house).   Instead, she went to a private tech company, with no security clearance, and had them access and DELETE those messages AFTER she was ordered to produce them!   She should have been put in JAIL then.. and should still be put in jail.   You are comparing MOUNTAINS to molehills.

                    No YOU are the one making a mountain out of this proven molehill of an email conspiracy. Again you are wrong wrong wrong. And the fact that she's NOT in jail is all the proof needed that it was a witch hunt! After all the months of crying "Lock her up!" And his campaign promise to indict and convict Hillary- Trump has (again) failed to live up to this campaign promise. Why? Because in the end the evidence needed to PROVE that she was guilty DOESN'T EXIST. She was exonerated and cleared by all the investigative commissions the Republicans could throw at her.

                    Knowing he will never have the proof he needs, Trump just let her go. Again, lying to all his supporters. Just like his claims of the nonexistent wiretap. Empty lies with nothing to back them up.  ::)

                    Tell someone you love them today, because life is short.
                    But shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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                      brianboru72
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                      https://twitter.com/FDTProgressive/status/865208033122459648/photo/1

                      This has been another classic deflection attempt by the defenders of the New Swamp known as the Trump administration.

                      Tell someone you love them today, because life is short.
                      But shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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                        wrestling82
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                        Sorry, but they are both disgusting. I see people bashing Trump yet support/supported Clinton and I just roll my eyes. (and vice versa)
                        ;D

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                        • FrederickF Offline
                          Frederick
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                          @brianboru72:

                          @Frederick:

                          It was a witchhunt?  Hmm.. a witchhunt that thus far has failed to rid ourselves of that witch!
                          Hillary was ORDERED by Congress to turn over 30,000 emails that were the property of the U.S. Government which she had illegally had on her own private server in an insecure location (her house).   Instead, she went to a private tech company, with no security clearance, and had them access and DELETE those messages AFTER she was ordered to produce them!   She should have been put in JAIL then.. and should still be put in jail.   You are comparing MOUNTAINS to molehills.

                          No YOU are the one making a mountain out of this proven molehill of an email conspiracy. Again you are wrong wrong wrong. And the fact that she's NOT in jail is all the proof needed that it was a witch hunt! After all the months of crying "Lock her up!" And his campaign promise to indict and convict Hillary- Trump has (again) failed to live up to this campaign promise. Why? Because in the end the evidence needed to PROVE that she was guilty DOESN'T EXIST. She was exonerated and cleared by all the investigative commissions the Republicans could throw at her.

                          Knowing he will never have the proof he needs, Trump just let her go. Again, lying to all his supporters. Just like his claims of the nonexistent wiretap. Empty lies with nothing to back them up.  ::)

                          You are out of your mind in denial.

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                            Frederick
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                            @Loki100:

                            @Frederick:

                            I don't suppose that Hillary instructing some private company with no security clearance to access and delete at least 30,000 e-mails, which were property of the U.S. government, AFTER being ordered by Congress to turn them over, is obstruction of justice? nooo….

                            Yeah. It isn't believable that anyone cares about any of this when Trump compromised the identity of American operatives in the Middle East when he divulged information of the highest classification level to the Russians in an effort to brag to them. Try again.

                            This is what is called "fake news".  You just make shit up and post it.

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                              Loki100
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                              @Frederick:

                              This is what is called "fake news".   You just make shit up and post it.

                              You are not doing yourself any favors by claiming a story that has been verified by Trump himself, as well as members of Israeli intelligence is "fake news."

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                                royalcrown89
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                                @Loki100:

                                @Frederick:

                                This is what is called "fake news".   You just make shit up and post it.

                                You are not doing yourself any favors by claiming a story that has been verified by Trump himself, as well as members of Israeli intelligence is "fake news."

                                Things aren't looking too good for #45 right now so his supporters are calling anything that is verified (including by Agent Orange himself) fake news  :crazy2: Don't worry, their time is running out.

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                                  mhorndisk
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                                  More PROPAGANDA!!! YOU ARE LYING. There are NO Republicans calling for this.

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                                  • royalcrown89R Offline
                                    royalcrown89
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                                    @mhorndisk:

                                    More PROPAGANDA!!! YOU ARE LYING. There are NO Republicans calling for this.

                                    I'm sure behind closed doors they are. And many will publicly soon.

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                                      mhorndisk
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                                      Not if they want to be re-elected. We voted for Trump. But we more importantly voted for his positions and ideals. We will not vote those bastards in again.

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                                      • royalcrown89R Offline
                                        royalcrown89
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                                        @mhorndisk:

                                        Not if they want to be re-elected. We voted for Trump. But we more importantly voted for his positions and ideals. We will not vote those bastards in again.

                                        Are you sure going down that rabbit hole will be worth it? If you guys try to vote out longtime Congressmen, those incumbents will most likely run third party and split that side of the vote, possibly causing a Democratic win in some districts. Candidate Agent Orange was more unpopular than Hillary and he won because so many people on the left sat it out. People may have sat it out or voted for Jill Stein or a dead gorilla, but those same people did not want Agent Orange which is why they did not vote for him. We haven't had a president this unpopular this early in his presidency in recent history going back over fifty years. It doesn't matter what YOU voted for, the majority of the country did not want THIS and we're seeing that now with the strong resistance to now #45.

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                                          mhorndisk
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                                          Dude, I don't want to be rude, but I could only read one sentence before I realized that you don't understand. Donald Trump is NOT a Republican or a Democrat. Party Lines are OFF the table. It has nothing to do with it. They are ONE party of evil, and Trump is the only one who is an outside force strong enough to eviscerate parties.

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                                            royalcrown89
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                                            @mhorndisk:

                                            Dude, I don't want to be rude, but I could only read one sentence before I realized that you don't understand. Donald Trump is NOT a Republican or a Democrat. Party Lines are OFF the table. It has nothing to do with it. They are ONE party of evil, and Trump is the only one who is an outside force strong enough to eviscerate parties.

                                            Yep, someone with a 32-38% approval rating has the power to eviscerate the parties. Someone who got 46.1% of the vote, not even the 53%(2008) or 51% (2012) that Obama got when he ran, but 46.1% of the vote. And are you saying he has a strong outside force just because 77,000 individuals spread across Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan were enough votes to sway enough precincts in those states? Yeah good luck with that  :crazy2:

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