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      strangeloop
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      @brianboru72:

      So - to be clear (and not condescending)- Actual serious news reports that Trumpcare failed to pass and replace Obamacare is NEWS and not left propaganda. The OPINION about whether Trumpcare is good or bad for the country- that's where representation, and biases can come into play.

      I'm not sure if you realize it, but the fact that you even call it Trumpcare to begin with is leftist propaganda.  Same with "Obamacare" coming from the right, to be fair.  And actually, it would be more accurate to call it Ryancare, but I disgress.

      You may think contention with this phrase is nitpicking, and it is, but repetition of engineered diction, prolific use of weasel words, and lies by omission are simple tools that easily craft narratives.  As an example?  Find me a single factual inaccuracy in this article: http://i.imgur.com/CRaBPOx.jpg

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        mhorndisk
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        It's crazy how you guys are associating anything negative to Trump about Obamacare. Obamacare sucks. It's not insurance, it's a tax, that's why you have to file the mandate on your tax return. It's a terrible socialist program. You don't like walking into a store and having the ability to choose, the sucky phone or the smart phone of your choice? You just want one option? Well in most places, that's what you get, one choice with Obamacare - you don't get the choice, because socialism sucks. It's stupid that you guys don't understand that the bankers are robbing the people, ripping them off, buying up all the world's resources, and creating a global dictatorship that they can distribute how they see fit while keeping all the wealth and instead think so small as though Trump is going to end your ability to have a big gay wedding. This is the reason we need the wall because we don't want the global socialist dictatorship giving us one option - theirs or nothing. Things are bigger than just gay marriage and to think otherwise is insanely ignorant.

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          strangeloop
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          @mhorndisk:

          It's crazy how you guys are associating anything negative to Trump about Obamacare. Obamacare sucks. It's not insurance, it's a tax, that's why you have to file the mandate on your tax return. It's a terrible socialist program. You don't like walking into a store and having the ability to choose, the sucky phone or the smart phone of your choice? You just want one option? Well in most places, that's what you get, one choice with Obamacare - you don't get the choice, because socialism sucks. It's stupid that you guys don't understand that the bankers are robbing the people, ripping them off, buying up all the world's resources, and creating a global dictatorship that they can distribute how they see fit while keeping all the wealth and instead think so small as though Trump is going to end your ability to have a big gay wedding. This is the reason we need the wall because we don't want the global socialist dictatorship giving us one option - theirs or nothing. Things are bigger than just gay marriage and to think otherwise is insanely ignorant.

          Well said!

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            mhorndisk
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            And seriously the democrats are caught in a corner running a Satanic Sex Pedophile Ring connected with the Vatican. They're finished. There was an audio released with Podesta that he couldn't refute yelling at a little girl. You wanna talk about Trump being connected to Russia as a distraction, when Hillary sold 20% of our Uranium to Russia, and Podesta's Russian company, and Hillary's Russia "reset button." Hillary took 90% of the billion dollars donated to Haiti for "administrative costs." It's a slap in the face to all of us, especially them. Hillary is a horrible person and she lost the election rightfully so. How dare her take 90% of the donations to Haiti for "administrative costs." She's pure evil. Anyone who wants to support her is a downright idiot. She is evil personified.

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              mhorndisk
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              And if you think that what I'm saying is false, just go back to the Vice Presidential debates when Mike Pence went against Tim Caine, and Mike said, "The Trump organization gives 100%, and the Clinton foundation gives ten cents on the dollar." And guess what, Tim Caine changed the damn subject! Hillary is pure evil and they know it and you know it! They took 90% of the donations to Haiti as "administrative costs" and act like they give a damn about people! You've gotta be REAL damn dumb if you believe their words because their actions are totally different. I'm so tired of gay people acting like Hillary is so wonderful when she's really just a low-down dirty criminal who uses the victim card to promote "equality" while she flies around on her private jet. Just shut up already, it's really getting too stupid to deal with.

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                mhorndisk
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                How about a new poll? "How do you feel about Hillary taking 90% of the one billion dollar donations to Haiti as 'Administrative Costs?'" How do you feel about that???? Damn you guys make me feel totally embarrassed to equate you with humanity. Honestly I'm embarrassed that you can actually support her. How dare you. It's the most horrendous embarrassment upon the human species I have ever thought was possible. She literally stole 90% of the one billion dollars she pledged to build a hospital in Haiti and you guys think that's some sort of OK. Wow. I'm ashamed of how stupid most of my gay family is for this. How dare you.

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                  brianboru72
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                  Wow mhorndisk . Don't have a nervous breakdown dude. Read this thread again- it's not about how good Hillary is at all. Find me all those statemtns talking about Hillary in this thread….Right it's a thread about Trump and all his failings, lies and broken promises like the repeal he failed to get through, the lies about the coal industry improving and the embarrassment he caused when the US had to apologize to the UK for his wiretapping lies.

                  YOU are the one who has brought Hillary into this thread- the topic is Trump. And stop starting silly threads and then chain bumping them as if anyone would pay more attention to you for doing that.  ::)  😛 You want a new poll about Hillary= you start it and see where it goes.  :laugh:

                  Tell someone you love them today, because life is short.
                  But shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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                    mhorndisk
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                    @brianboru72:

                    Wow mhorndisk . Don't have a nervous breakdown dude. Read this thread again- it's not about how good Hillary is at all. Find me all those statemtns talking about Hillary in this thread….Right it's a thread about Trump and all his failings, lies and broken promises like the repeal he failed to get through, the lies about the coal industry improving and the embarrassment he caused when the US had to apologize to the UK for his wiretapping lies.

                    YOU are the one who has brought Hillary into this thread- the topic is Trump. And stop starting silly threads and then chain bumping them as if anyone would pay more attention to you for doing that.  ::)  😛 You want a new poll about Hillary= you start it and see where it goes.  :laugh:

                    Wow that's really interesting, since Judge Napolitan was fired for saying what you're accusing Trump of, and then rehired because they were wrong. I bet you didn't see that coming.

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                      mhorndisk
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                      The fact of the matter, is that as Judge Napolitano said, they were spying on PRESIDENT Trump, and they were, and that will be the downfall of Obama, and good riddance, he's an asshat. He's the worst president of all time. Obama is the most insidious piece of garbage. He bombed seven nations without a declaration of war, meaning he violated the Constitution 7 times. He's a piece of human garbage.

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                        strangeloop
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                        As more and more evidence comes out, it's clear Trump and his team were absolutely and unequivocally spied upon by other government agencies.  Stop perpetuating the lie that he wasn't spied on.

                        Evidence:

                        'Former CIA officer Col. Tony Shaffer said the basics of President Trump's claim to have been "wiretapped" are likely true, and that the incident is "worse than Watergate."' (http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/25/tony-shaffer-donald-trump-wiretapping-case-worse-watergate-not-russian)

                        "Unmasking is not unprecedented, but unmasking for political purposes specifically of Trump transition team members is highly suspect and questionable" (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/31/intelligence-official-who-unmasked-trump-associates-is-very-high-up-source-says.html)

                        "NSA whistleblower tells Tucker Carlson Trump, Supreme Court, Congress likely spied on" (http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/25/shocking-nsa-whistle-blower-tells-tucker-carlson-trump-supreme-court-congress-likely-spied-on/)

                        Ron Paul: "Yes, The Feds Are Spying On Donald Trump! Did the Government Spy on Trump? Of Course. It Spies on All of Us!" (https://www.fitsnews.com/2017/03/27/ron-paul-yes-the-feds-are-spying-on-donald-trump/, http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/march/27/did-the-government-spy-on-trump-of-course-it-spies-on-all-of-us/)

                        New York Times OWN headline: "Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump's aides" (http://www.mwilliams.info/images/nyt%20wiretapped.jpg)

                        Enough already.  Just because the liberal mainstream media keeps repeating the same byline over and over again "NA UH TRUMP wasn't wiretapped!!" doesn't make it true and doesn't sweep the very blatant issue under the rug.  The media is taking his words hyper-literally in order to claim it was a technically a lie, even though the essence of his claim, that he was spied on, is unequivocally true.

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                          mhorndisk
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                          Obama was human garbage and I'm glad he's gone and done. He was the worst president ever. He wasn't even a legit president. He was born in Kenya and not legit. The only reason you assholes voted for him was based on his skin color.

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                            mhorndisk
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                            And I bet you wanna give him another piece prize after bombing seven nations!!! I bomb seven countries= you gibe me a nobel prize because you're fucking dumb.

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                              brianboru72
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                              You can both keep spouting those statements but that's all they are. You can keep pushing for it but the FACT is there is NO PROOF. Because if there was, they would haul Obama to the courts so fast it would make all out heads spin.

                              My last word on all this silliness about Obama and Hillary- why aren't they in jail or being prosecuted if ANY of it has basis in FACT??? Trump is president, the Republicans hold control over all branches of government- so it should be easy for them to take Hillary and Obama to court if there was ANY SHRED of evidence that they are guilty.

                              Downfall of Obama? I doubt it. I won't hold my breath. I suggest you don't either.  ;D
                              Remember "Lock her up"? The reason he can't even keep that promise is because even as president he CAN'T prove anything. Sad!  :laugh:

                              Tell someone you love them today, because life is short.
                              But shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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                                mhorndisk
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                                I am so ashamed of the gay family and embarrassed by your fucking retarded crap. Obama killed people by drones without a trial and you think it's cool. You're fucking embarrassing and stupid.

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                                  strangeloop
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                                  @brianboru72:

                                  You can both keep spouting those statements but that's all they are. You can keep pushing for it but the FACT is there is NO PROOF. Because if there was, they would haul Obama to the courts so fast it would make all out heads spin.

                                  My last word on all this silliness about Obama and Hillary- why aren't they in jail or being prosecuted if ANY of it has basis in FACT??? Trump is president, the Republicans hold control over all branches of government- so it should be easy for them to take Hillary and Obama to court if there was ANY SHRED of evidence that they are guilty.

                                  Downfall of Obama? I doubt it. I won't hold my breath. I suggest you don't either.  ;D
                                  Remember "Lock her up"? The reason he can't even keep that promise is because even as president he CAN'T prove anything. Sad!  :laugh:

                                  Enough already, stop willfully closing your eyes.  There's a huge amount of evidence, more than enough evidence to back up Trump's claim.

                                  Evidence:

                                  'Former CIA officer Col. Tony Shaffer said the basics of President Trump's claim to have been "wiretapped" are likely true, and that the incident is "worse than Watergate."' (http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/25/tony-shaffer-donald-trump-wiretapping-case-worse-watergate-not-russian)

                                  "Unmasking is not unprecedented, but unmasking for political purposes specifically of Trump transition team members is highly suspect and questionable" (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/31/intelligence-official-who-unmasked-trump-associates-is-very-high-up-source-says.html)

                                  "NSA whistleblower tells Tucker Carlson Trump, Supreme Court, Congress likely spied on" (http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/25/shocking-nsa-whistle-blower-tells-tucker-carlson-trump-supreme-court-congress-likely-spied-on/)

                                  Ron Paul: "Yes, The Feds Are Spying On Donald Trump! Did the Government Spy on Trump? Of Course. It Spies on All of Us!" (https://www.fitsnews.com/2017/03/27/ron-paul-yes-the-feds-are-spying-on-donald-trump/, http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/march/27/did-the-government-spy-on-trump-of-course-it-spies-on-all-of-us/)

                                  New York Times OWN headline: "Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump's aides" (http://www.mwilliams.info/images/nyt%20wiretapped.jpg)

                                  Enough already.  Just because the liberal mainstream media keeps repeating the same byline over and over again "NA UH TRUMP wasn't wiretapped!!" doesn't make it true and doesn't sweep the very blatant issue under the rug.  The media is taking his words hyper-literally in order to claim it was a technically a lie, even though the essence of his claim, that he was spied on, is unequivocally true.

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                                    mhorndisk
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                                    @brianboru72:

                                    You can both keep spouting those statements but that's all they are. You can keep pushing for it but the FACT is there is NO PROOF. Because if there was, they would haul Obama to the courts so fast it would make all out heads spin.

                                    My last word on all this silliness about Obama and Hillary- why aren't they in jail or being prosecuted if ANY of it has basis in FACT??? Trump is president, the Republicans hold control over all branches of government- so it should be easy for them to take Hillary and Obama to court if there was ANY SHRED of evidence that they are guilty.

                                    Downfall of Obama? I doubt it. I won't hold my breath. I suggest you don't either.  ;D
                                    Remember "Lock her up"? The reason he can't even keep that promise is because even as president he CAN'T prove anything. Sad!  :laugh:

                                    You obviously don't understand anything about Vatican Eclesiastical law. Obama and Hillary are however very close to being prosecuted. And I hope to God they get it.

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                                      mhorndisk
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                                      You don't even need to go there. The FACTS are that EVERYONE is WIRETAPPED. You can say all you want about OBAMA NOT doing it but he ordered the services to do so.

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                                        brianboru72
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                                        You can throw all your alt-facts at me and it still won't make any of it true.
                                        Let's just wait to hear what the courts have to say- after all it's illegal and if there was any factual (not made up) proof- then he will be prosecuted any day now. Otherwise it's all just more lies from the conservative propaganda machine.

                                        Just like Hillary. You can get back to us with links to their arraignment if it ever happens, which is likely never since there is ZERO proof of all the accusations you both have been spouting here about her. Or maybe Trump is just too much of a lying coward he can't even go after Hillary when he promised to Lock her up? LOL! Tired of winning yet?

                                        Tell someone you love them today, because life is short.
                                        But shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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                                          mhorndisk
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                                          If you think she's innocent and didn't commit treason you're fucking dumb. Why would millions call for her imprisonment if it were just a callous thing? She literally broke the law by having a private server full of classified information in her fucking bathroom.

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                                            mhorndisk
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                                            And then! She deleted and bleached it AFTER a subpoena!!! My God how stupid are you?

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