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    • royalcrown89R Offline
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      Donald Trump centered his campaign around lies and making irrational claims without any evidence or proof. And now that there are some questioning his legitimacy, it's a problem? Like I've said, I believe he was legitimately elected by our democratic system. There's no denying he won the election freely and fairly at this point. However, that doesn't erase the effect Russia's hacking and the FBI's biased info leaking had on the election. Some people, especially those who have seen classified documents that we cannot see, have a right to question the legitimacy of Trump's win. They know things that we don't, and the only person who can put an end to it is Donald Trump himself. And until he does, there will be more rallies against him. There will be backlash against anyone who tries to normalize him. There will likely be riots. Look at the crowds that have been forming all around the country. They're not just black faces. One rally I saw was all white people (in a heavily Republican district) prepared to grill their Republican congressman for threatening to take away their healthcare. When the reporter talked to them, many of them stated they regretted voting for Trump. A large majority of this country is not happy about this incoming administration and now I'm one of them. You can look at the "How Obama Will Be Viewed…" thread and see exactly what I said about Donald Trump and Mike Pence; how I was ready to give them a chance before this week. My stance on race relations had absolutely nothing to do with my support of Donald Trump as our next president. I was willing to put some of his horrible statements to the side because I still believe he and Pence will not turn the clock back on LGBT rights. I really hope he'll either apologize to John Lewis or prove John Lewis wrong so that John Lewis will have to apologize to him. That is the only way I will support Trump again.

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        @raphjd:

        Only one person here is constantly bringing up race and turning everything into a racist conspiracy theory and it's not the white people.   That's quite telling.

        Black people nearly dying because they wanted to vote is a "racist conspiracy theory?" What the hell is wrong with you? That is a part of my culture you piece of shit. Don't you dare call what happened to my ancestors a "racist conspiracy theory." You need to fucking clarify your statements.

        ^^^This is not a "racist conspiracy theory," it really happened! Are you out of your mind?

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          I think it highly likely after reading many of your posts, including the ones here, raphjd, your dog thinks you are what he poops. ::)         
          . . .

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            http://imgur.com/LxBfHp6 and here's what he said. this was his ATTACK.

            what do all of you have to say for yourselves?

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              @royalcrown89:

              While I didn't agree with Rep. John Lewis when he called Donald Trump's win illegitimate, I understood why he came to that conclusion. None of the Russian ties to the Trump candidacy have been proven; however, they have NOT been disproved either. The only way to end any and all speculation is for Trump to release his tax returns and then divest himself from his companies; which he has flip-flopped on for the past year and a half. Rep. John Lewis is one of the people who is not convinced and he has a right to believe what he believes.

              Donald Trump just attacked a living Civil Rights icon, one who marched with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. to gain access to the ballot box for African-Americans in this country. The right to vote had been given to black men long ago; however, racist white people intimidated black people particularly in the South and many black people were even murdered by the KKK to prevent them from voting. John Lewis himself was nearly killed in Alabama while peacefully protesting by white police officers and white attack mobs. For Donald Trump to attack someone so important to our country's history and to black culture is truly disgusting and harmful. Also, what he said in the tweet was a lie. Rep. Lewis' district is not falling apart. It is a majority black district and over 80% of the adults in that district have high school diplomas, and another 46% have college degrees. The poverty rate in that district is not as high as many other majority black districts in the country, which by the way is a problem because of inadequate funding to such districts.

              Trump will be sworn in on January 20th and he has until then to apologize. No, Rep. Lewis does not have to apologize to Donald Trump because Donald Trump can easily take the argument from Rep. Lewis by RELEASING HIS TAX RETURNS. If Trump does not apologize to John Lewis then he will not be my president and like John Lewis, I will see Trump as illegitimate. Donald Trump questioned the citizenship of our country's first and only black president and NEVER apologized for it. The "Hillary Clinton came up with it first" excuse is irrational now given that Hillary Clinton is not currently our President-elect. Hillary Clinton has nothing to do with anything now, so using her as an excuse means you automatically lose any argument you begin or try to finish at this point. Donald Trump needs to apologize NOW or his approval rating will be lower than its current 39% going into becoming our 45th President. I can promise you that.

              this was his "attack" http://imgur.com/LxBfHp6

              you have the ego the size of the damn moon. and your argument  for the "russian hackers" is if we don't have proof of [it] then it still can exist… much how a catholic goes "ok so i can't prove God exists, but you can't DISPROVE it either". that's not how the burden of proof works.

              so it's no wonder people think you're suffering from psychosis. because you are.

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                @jojojojo3:

                @royalcrown89:

                While I didn't agree with Rep. John Lewis when he called Donald Trump's win illegitimate, I understood why he came to that conclusion. None of the Russian ties to the Trump candidacy have been proven; however, they have NOT been disproved either. The only way to end any and all speculation is for Trump to release his tax returns and then divest himself from his companies; which he has flip-flopped on for the past year and a half. Rep. John Lewis is one of the people who is not convinced and he has a right to believe what he believes.

                Donald Trump just attacked a living Civil Rights icon, one who marched with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. to gain access to the ballot box for African-Americans in this country. The right to vote had been given to black men long ago; however, racist white people intimidated black people particularly in the South and many black people were even murdered by the KKK to prevent them from voting. John Lewis himself was nearly killed in Alabama while peacefully protesting by white police officers and white attack mobs. For Donald Trump to attack someone so important to our country's history and to black culture is truly disgusting and harmful. Also, what he said in the tweet was a lie. Rep. Lewis' district is not falling apart. It is a majority black district and over 80% of the adults in that district have high school diplomas, and another 46% have college degrees. The poverty rate in that district is not as high as many other majority black districts in the country, which by the way is a problem because of inadequate funding to such districts.

                Trump will be sworn in on January 20th and he has until then to apologize. No, Rep. Lewis does not have to apologize to Donald Trump because Donald Trump can easily take the argument from Rep. Lewis by RELEASING HIS TAX RETURNS. If Trump does not apologize to John Lewis then he will not be my president and like John Lewis, I will see Trump as illegitimate. Donald Trump questioned the citizenship of our country's first and only black president and NEVER apologized for it. The "Hillary Clinton came up with it first" excuse is irrational now given that Hillary Clinton is not currently our President-elect. Hillary Clinton has nothing to do with anything now, so using her as an excuse means you automatically lose any argument you begin or try to finish at this point. Donald Trump needs to apologize NOW or his approval rating will be lower than its current 39% going into becoming our 45th President. I can promise you that.

                this was his "attack" http://imgur.com/LxBfHp6

                you have the ego the size of the damn moon. and your argument  for the "russian hackers" is if we don't have proof of [it] then it still can exist… much how a catholic goes "ok so i can't prove God exists, but you can't DISPROVE it either". that's not how the burden of proof works.

                so it's no wonder people think you're suffering from psychosis. because you are.

                I don't know what the hell you're talking about, but the attacks I am talking about are these tweets: (1) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/820251730407473153 (2) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/820255947956383744?ref_src=twsrc^tfw (3) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/820425770925338624

                John Lewis's district is not plagued with high unemployment and crime. A part of his district includes the Buckhead section of Atlanta, which is upper-middle class. He racially stereotyped John Lewis's district. And the "all talk no action" comment is a direct hit at Lewis's Civil Rights legacy. Trump did not deny that he was talking about Lewis's Civil Rights legacy.

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                  @amicusets:

                  [Trump] was CLEARLY referencing his current tenure in Congress, where Lewis has been nothing but a partisan hack, and who represents one of the worst districts in all of Georgia in terms of quality of living.

                  Here is a BIG CLUE for you, amicusets, and the other Trump-zombies here.

                  My sister and her wife have lived in Rep. John Lewis' district for over 35 years.  They have repeatedly voted for him as their representative to Congress.  He is a hero to them as he is to a great many people who live in Atlanta.

                  I have been to and stayed in their home.  Where they live and the surrounding area are very nice and peaceful and the neighbors who live there are extremely friendly to my sister and her wife as they are to them.  Every year my sister and her wife celebrate Halloween by putting a huge display – much of it made by themselves -- in their yard open to all to come and see.  (Last year I bought them a pair of zombie flamingoes.)  They bag treats for up to 400 children who come to visit them.  Their neighbors take part and help them on Halloween night.

                  Lewis's district is NOTHING like what Ignorant, Egotistical Trump ranted it was.

                  The day of and the day after Trump's obnoxious tweet, people who lived in that district were posting pictures on Facebook of where they lived and what was around them in the area.  Again, it is NOTHING like what the Clueless-Elect LIED it was.

                  On the same days, the major newspaper of the City of Atlanta posted even more photos and statements by the people who live in Rep. Lewis' district – proving once again that Trump is a Clueless Idiot who rarely, if ever, knows that he believes he does.

                  Being as Willful-Ignorant and Stupid as Donald Trump is, amicusets, is not something a rational and reasonable person would aspire to.

                  ***** WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHH! *****
                  . . .

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                    @royalcrown89:

                    @jojojojo3:

                    @royalcrown89:

                    While I didn't agree with Rep. John Lewis when he called Donald Trump's win illegitimate, I understood why he came to that conclusion. None of the Russian ties to the Trump candidacy have been proven; however, they have NOT been disproved either. The only way to end any and all speculation is for Trump to release his tax returns and then divest himself from his companies; which he has flip-flopped on for the past year and a half. Rep. John Lewis is one of the people who is not convinced and he has a right to believe what he believes.

                    Donald Trump just attacked a living Civil Rights icon, one who marched with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. to gain access to the ballot box for African-Americans in this country. The right to vote had been given to black men long ago; however, racist white people intimidated black people particularly in the South and many black people were even murdered by the KKK to prevent them from voting. John Lewis himself was nearly killed in Alabama while peacefully protesting by white police officers and white attack mobs. For Donald Trump to attack someone so important to our country's history and to black culture is truly disgusting and harmful. Also, what he said in the tweet was a lie. Rep. Lewis' district is not falling apart. It is a majority black district and over 80% of the adults in that district have high school diplomas, and another 46% have college degrees. The poverty rate in that district is not as high as many other majority black districts in the country, which by the way is a problem because of inadequate funding to such districts.

                    Trump will be sworn in on January 20th and he has until then to apologize. No, Rep. Lewis does not have to apologize to Donald Trump because Donald Trump can easily take the argument from Rep. Lewis by RELEASING HIS TAX RETURNS. If Trump does not apologize to John Lewis then he will not be my president and like John Lewis, I will see Trump as illegitimate. Donald Trump questioned the citizenship of our country's first and only black president and NEVER apologized for it. The "Hillary Clinton came up with it first" excuse is irrational now given that Hillary Clinton is not currently our President-elect. Hillary Clinton has nothing to do with anything now, so using her as an excuse means you automatically lose any argument you begin or try to finish at this point. Donald Trump needs to apologize NOW or his approval rating will be lower than its current 39% going into becoming our 45th President. I can promise you that.

                    this was his "attack" http://imgur.com/LxBfHp6

                    you have the ego the size of the damn moon. and your argument  for the "russian hackers" is if we don't have proof of [it] then it still can exist… much how a catholic goes "ok so i can't prove God exists, but you can't DISPROVE it either". that's not how the burden of proof works.

                    so it's no wonder people think you're suffering from psychosis. because you are.

                    I don't know what the hell you're talking about, but the attacks I am talking about are these tweets: (1) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/820251730407473153 (2) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/820255947956383744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw (3) https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/820425770925338624

                    John Lewis's district is not plagued with high unemployment and crime. A part of his district includes the Buckhead section of Atlanta, which is upper-middle class. He racially stereotyped John Lewis's district. And the "all talk no action" comment is a direct hit at Lewis's Civil Rights legacy. Trump did not deny that he was talking about Lewis's Civil Rights legacy.

                    oh wow, trump is concerned about the innercity and is frustrated by lack of strides to make it better?  oh god let's panic, and keep beliving that liberal leadership will suddenly become proactive in black communities despite decades of evidence to the contrary and what you regurgitated in college. Jesus fucking christ.  maybe trump has a goddamn good point!

                    and you're still on "hacked election"?  well the election was hacked… by the DNC.  please, tell me you found it odd that Julian Assange went from hero to villain in just one night dispite his and all of wikileaks' years of credibility.

                    If it was really bad maybe you'd do something about it rather than vent your frustrations.

                    you were born in '89 so i can assume you're a grown ass man.

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                    • royalcrown89R Offline
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                      @bostonpolar:

                      @amicusets:

                      [Trump] was CLEARLY referencing his current tenure in Congress, where Lewis has been nothing but a partisan hack, and who represents one of the worst districts in all of Georgia in terms of quality of living.

                      Here is a BIG CLUE for you, amicusets, and the other Trump-zombies here.

                      My sister and her wife have lived in Rep. John Lewis' district for over 35 years.  They have repeatedly voted for him as their representative to Congress.  He is a hero to them as he is to a great many people who live in Atlanta.

                      I have been to and stayed in their home.  Where they live and the surrounding area are very nice and peaceful and the neighbors who live there are extremely friendly to my sister and her wife as they are to them.  Every year my sister and her wife celebrate Halloween by putting a huge display, much of it made by themselves, in their yard open to all to come and see.  (Last year I bought them a pair of zombie flamingoes for their year.)  They bag treats for the up to 400 children who come to visit them.  Their neighbors take part and help them on Halloween night.

                      Lewis's district is NOTHING like what Ignorant, Egotistical Trump ranted it was.

                      The day of and the day after Trump's obnoxious tweet, people who lived in that district were posting picture of where they lived and what was around them in the area.  Again, it is NOTHING like what the Clueless-Elect LIED it was.

                      On the same days, the major newspaper of the City of Atlanta posted even more photos and statements by the people who live in Rep. Lewis' district – proving once again that Trump is a Clueless Idiot who rarely, if ever, knows that he believes he does.

                      Being as Willful-Ignorant and Stupid as Donald Trump is, amicusets, is not something a rational and reasonable person would aspire to.

                      ***** WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHH! *****
                      . . .

                      Isn't it disgusting how they think every single district that is majority black is plagued with crime and high unemployment? I live in South Carolina and where I grew up, it was nothing like that. We had a neighborhood watch program and a very calm neighborhood where everyone looked out for each other. Would you believe my first experience with homophobia came from white people while I was at Clemson? My second and third occurred once again by white homophobes at the University of South Carolina. But that's beyond the point of this thread, John Lewis's district was racially stereotyped by Trump and he also criticized the legacy of a living Civil Rights hero. An apology is definitely needed or this whole situation is about to get so much worse. How low can that approval rating go??  ;D ;D

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                        @royalcrown89:

                        @bostonpolar:

                        @amicusets:

                        [Trump] was CLEARLY referencing his current tenure in Congress, where Lewis has been nothing but a partisan hack, and who represents one of the worst districts in all of Georgia in terms of quality of living.

                        Here is a BIG CLUE for you, amicusets, and the other Trump-zombies here.

                        My sister and her wife have lived in Rep. John Lewis' district for over 35 years.  They have repeatedly voted for him as their representative to Congress.  He is a hero to them as he is to a great many people who live in Atlanta.

                        I have been to and stayed in their home.  Where they live and the surrounding area are very nice and peaceful and the neighbors who live there are extremely friendly to my sister and her wife as they are to them.  Every year my sister and her wife celebrate Halloween by putting a huge display, much of it made by themselves, in their yard open to all to come and see.  (Last year I bought them a pair of zombie flamingoes for their year.)  They bag treats for the up to 400 children who come to visit them.  Their neighbors take part and help them on Halloween night.

                        Lewis's district is NOTHING like what Ignorant, Egotistical Trump ranted it was.

                        The day of and the day after Trump's obnoxious tweet, people who lived in that district were posting picture of where they lived and what was around them in the area.  Again, it is NOTHING like what the Clueless-Elect LIED it was.

                        On the same days, the major newspaper of the City of Atlanta posted even more photos and statements by the people who live in Rep. Lewis' district – proving once again that Trump is a Clueless Idiot who rarely, if ever, knows that he believes he does.

                        Being as Willful-Ignorant and Stupid as Donald Trump is, amicusets, is not something a rational and reasonable person would aspire to.

                        ***** WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHH! *****
                        . . .

                        Isn't it disgusting how they think every single district that is majority black is plagued with crime and high unemployment? I live in South Carolina and where I grew up, it was nothing like that. We had a neighborhood watch program and a very calm neighborhood where everyone looked out for each other. Would you believe my first experience with homophobia came from white people while I was at Clemson? My second and third occurred once again by white homophobes at the University of South Carolina. But that's beyond the point of this thread, John Lewis's district was racially stereotyped by Trump and he also criticized the legacy of a living Civil Rights hero. An apology is definitely needed or this whole situation is about to get so much worse. How low can that approval rating go??  ;D ;D

                        oh no a stereotype that may be accurate. and look, your anecdote is suddenly data? no one's lived experience matters a lick here.  oh, and good on you for being one of the privileged ones where all you have to worry about is white homophobes calling you names as you are suddenly making this about yourself and an issue of race..

                        let's totally forget "the new black" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lggB9c6KNgY

                        but hey, anything so you can circle jerk for trump hate when his opponent's husband put in Don't ask don't tell, and ran in the 2008 primary to not put in gay marriage.

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                        • royalcrown89R Offline
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                          @jojojojo3:

                          @royalcrown89:

                          @bostonpolar:

                          @amicusets:

                          [Trump] was CLEARLY referencing his current tenure in Congress, where Lewis has been nothing but a partisan hack, and who represents one of the worst districts in all of Georgia in terms of quality of living.

                          Here is a BIG CLUE for you, amicusets, and the other Trump-zombies here.

                          My sister and her wife have lived in Rep. John Lewis' district for over 35 years.  They have repeatedly voted for him as their representative to Congress.  He is a hero to them as he is to a great many people who live in Atlanta.

                          I have been to and stayed in their home.  Where they live and the surrounding area are very nice and peaceful and the neighbors who live there are extremely friendly to my sister and her wife as they are to them.  Every year my sister and her wife celebrate Halloween by putting a huge display, much of it made by themselves, in their yard open to all to come and see.  (Last year I bought them a pair of zombie flamingoes for their year.)  They bag treats for the up to 400 children who come to visit them.  Their neighbors take part and help them on Halloween night.

                          Lewis's district is NOTHING like what Ignorant, Egotistical Trump ranted it was.

                          The day of and the day after Trump's obnoxious tweet, people who lived in that district were posting picture of where they lived and what was around them in the area.  Again, it is NOTHING like what the Clueless-Elect LIED it was.

                          On the same days, the major newspaper of the City of Atlanta posted even more photos and statements by the people who live in Rep. Lewis' district – proving once again that Trump is a Clueless Idiot who rarely, if ever, knows that he believes he does.

                          Being as Willful-Ignorant and Stupid as Donald Trump is, amicusets, is not something a rational and reasonable person would aspire to.

                          ***** WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHH! *****
                          . . .

                          Isn't it disgusting how they think every single district that is majority black is plagued with crime and high unemployment? I live in South Carolina and where I grew up, it was nothing like that. We had a neighborhood watch program and a very calm neighborhood where everyone looked out for each other. Would you believe my first experience with homophobia came from white people while I was at Clemson? My second and third occurred once again by white homophobes at the University of South Carolina. But that's beyond the point of this thread, John Lewis's district was racially stereotyped by Trump and he also criticized the legacy of a living Civil Rights hero. An apology is definitely needed or this whole situation is about to get so much worse. How low can that approval rating go??  ;D ;D

                          oh no a stereotype that may be accurate. and look, your anecdote is suddenly data? no one's lived experience matters a lick here.  oh, and good on you for being one of the privileged ones where all you have to worry about is white homophobes calling you names as you are suddenly making this about yourself and an issue of race..

                          let's totally forget "the new black" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lggB9c6KNgY

                          but hey, anything so you can circle jerk for trump hate when his opponent's husband put in Don't ask don't tell, and ran in the 2008 primary to not put in gay marriage.

                          The election is over, Donald Trump won and will be our 45th President; therefore, bringing up Hillary Clinton at this point is simply ridiculous and hurts your argument severely. Hillary who? Also, yes I am black AND gay so no I'm not going to ignore my full identity to make people feel comfortable. Your "circle jerk for Trump hate" comment is also ignorant since I've said many times in this thread and on this site that I truly believe Trump was elected legitimately and that I was willing to give him a chance until this point. Unlike the obstructionist Republicans (2009-2017), I believe when the president does well, we all do well. However, when the president attacks a Civil Rights hero who nearly died trying to bring Dr. King's vision to fruition, that president will continue to see his support decline among the people, not just congressional members.

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                            @royalcrown89:

                            @jojojojo3:

                            @royalcrown89:

                            @bostonpolar:

                            @amicusets:

                            [Trump] was CLEARLY referencing his current tenure in Congress, where Lewis has been nothing but a partisan hack, and who represents one of the worst districts in all of Georgia in terms of quality of living.

                            Here is a BIG CLUE for you, amicusets, and the other Trump-zombies here.

                            My sister and her wife have lived in Rep. John Lewis' district for over 35 years.  They have repeatedly voted for him as their representative to Congress.  He is a hero to them as he is to a great many people who live in Atlanta.

                            I have been to and stayed in their home.  Where they live and the surrounding area are very nice and peaceful and the neighbors who live there are extremely friendly to my sister and her wife as they are to them.  Every year my sister and her wife celebrate Halloween by putting a huge display, much of it made by themselves, in their yard open to all to come and see.  (Last year I bought them a pair of zombie flamingoes for their year.)  They bag treats for the up to 400 children who come to visit them.  Their neighbors take part and help them on Halloween night.

                            Lewis's district is NOTHING like what Ignorant, Egotistical Trump ranted it was.

                            The day of and the day after Trump's obnoxious tweet, people who lived in that district were posting picture of where they lived and what was around them in the area.  Again, it is NOTHING like what the Clueless-Elect LIED it was.

                            On the same days, the major newspaper of the City of Atlanta posted even more photos and statements by the people who live in Rep. Lewis' district – proving once again that Trump is a Clueless Idiot who rarely, if ever, knows that he believes he does.

                            Being as Willful-Ignorant and Stupid as Donald Trump is, amicusets, is not something a rational and reasonable person would aspire to.

                            ***** WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHH! *****
                            . . .

                            Isn't it disgusting how they think every single district that is majority black is plagued with crime and high unemployment? I live in South Carolina and where I grew up, it was nothing like that. We had a neighborhood watch program and a very calm neighborhood where everyone looked out for each other. Would you believe my first experience with homophobia came from white people while I was at Clemson? My second and third occurred once again by white homophobes at the University of South Carolina. But that's beyond the point of this thread, John Lewis's district was racially stereotyped by Trump and he also criticized the legacy of a living Civil Rights hero. An apology is definitely needed or this whole situation is about to get so much worse. How low can that approval rating go??  ;D ;D

                            oh no a stereotype that may be accurate. and look, your anecdote is suddenly data? no one's lived experience matters a lick here.  oh, and good on you for being one of the privileged ones where all you have to worry about is white homophobes calling you names as you are suddenly making this about yourself and an issue of race..

                            let's totally forget "the new black" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lggB9c6KNgY

                            but hey, anything so you can circle jerk for trump hate when his opponent's husband put in Don't ask don't tell, and ran in the 2008 primary to not put in gay marriage.

                            The election is over, Donald Trump won and will be our 45th President; therefore, bringing up Hillary Clinton at this point is simply ridiculous and hurts your argument severely. Hillary who? Also, yes I am black AND gay so no I'm not going to ignore my full identity to make people feel comfortable. Your "circle jerk for Trump hate" comment is also ignorant since I've said many times in this thread and on his site that I truly believe Trump was elected legitimately and that I was willing to give him a chance until this point. Unlike the obstructionist Republicans (2009-2017), I believe when the president does well, we all do well. However, when the president attacks Civil Rights heroes who nearly died trying to bring Dr. King's vision to fruition, that president will continue to see his support decline among the people, not just congressional members.

                            my full identity.
                            King's dream

                            and it seems that that King's message didn't even reach you. just on that contradiction alone.

                            for a man that is so fixated on identity you seem to praise the very person that was for smashing identity politics.

                            way to go! I'd say go fuck yourself but you've done such a brilliant job of that.

                            thanks for the last and greatest betrayal of the last and greatest of human dreams.

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                              @jojojojo3:

                              @royalcrown89:

                              @jojojojo3:

                              @royalcrown89:

                              @bostonpolar:

                              @amicusets:

                              [Trump] was CLEARLY referencing his current tenure in Congress, where Lewis has been nothing but a partisan hack, and who represents one of the worst districts in all of Georgia in terms of quality of living.

                              Here is a BIG CLUE for you, amicusets, and the other Trump-zombies here.

                              My sister and her wife have lived in Rep. John Lewis' district for over 35 years.  They have repeatedly voted for him as their representative to Congress.  He is a hero to them as he is to a great many people who live in Atlanta.

                              I have been to and stayed in their home.  Where they live and the surrounding area are very nice and peaceful and the neighbors who live there are extremely friendly to my sister and her wife as they are to them.  Every year my sister and her wife celebrate Halloween by putting a huge display, much of it made by themselves, in their yard open to all to come and see.  (Last year I bought them a pair of zombie flamingoes for their year.)  They bag treats for the up to 400 children who come to visit them.  Their neighbors take part and help them on Halloween night.

                              Lewis's district is NOTHING like what Ignorant, Egotistical Trump ranted it was.

                              The day of and the day after Trump's obnoxious tweet, people who lived in that district were posting picture of where they lived and what was around them in the area.  Again, it is NOTHING like what the Clueless-Elect LIED it was.

                              On the same days, the major newspaper of the City of Atlanta posted even more photos and statements by the people who live in Rep. Lewis' district – proving once again that Trump is a Clueless Idiot who rarely, if ever, knows that he believes he does.

                              Being as Willful-Ignorant and Stupid as Donald Trump is, amicusets, is not something a rational and reasonable person would aspire to.

                              ***** WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHH! *****
                              . . .

                              Isn't it disgusting how they think every single district that is majority black is plagued with crime and high unemployment? I live in South Carolina and where I grew up, it was nothing like that. We had a neighborhood watch program and a very calm neighborhood where everyone looked out for each other. Would you believe my first experience with homophobia came from white people while I was at Clemson? My second and third occurred once again by white homophobes at the University of South Carolina. But that's beyond the point of this thread, John Lewis's district was racially stereotyped by Trump and he also criticized the legacy of a living Civil Rights hero. An apology is definitely needed or this whole situation is about to get so much worse. How low can that approval rating go??  ;D ;D

                              oh no a stereotype that may be accurate. and look, your anecdote is suddenly data? no one's lived experience matters a lick here.  oh, and good on you for being one of the privileged ones where all you have to worry about is white homophobes calling you names as you are suddenly making this about yourself and an issue of race..

                              let's totally forget "the new black" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lggB9c6KNgY

                              but hey, anything so you can circle jerk for trump hate when his opponent's husband put in Don't ask don't tell, and ran in the 2008 primary to not put in gay marriage.

                              The election is over, Donald Trump won and will be our 45th President; therefore, bringing up Hillary Clinton at this point is simply ridiculous and hurts your argument severely. Hillary who? Also, yes I am black AND gay so no I'm not going to ignore my full identity to make people feel comfortable. Your "circle jerk for Trump hate" comment is also ignorant since I've said many times in this thread and on his site that I truly believe Trump was elected legitimately and that I was willing to give him a chance until this point. Unlike the obstructionist Republicans (2009-2017), I believe when the president does well, we all do well. However, when the president attacks Civil Rights heroes who nearly died trying to bring Dr. King's vision to fruition, that president will continue to see his support decline among the people, not just congressional members.

                              my full identity.
                              King's dream

                              and it seems that that King's message didn't even reach you. just on that contradiction alone.

                              for a man that is so fixated on identity you seem to praise the very person that was for smashing identity politics.

                              way to go! I'd say go fuck yourself but you've done such a brilliant job of that.

                              thanks for the last and greatest betrayal of the last and greatest of human dreams.

                              Dr. King was a proud black man, belonged to a historically black fraternity (Alpha Phi Alpha) and was murdered by a white man because he was a black man trying to change this country. Are you seriously trying to erase Dr. King's blackness? His dream wasn't about erasing yourself, it was about being proud of who you are and fighting for your right to be who you are. His dream was about accepting one another as we are, not destroying what makes us the people we are. I am supposed to look past the fact that you are white, black, etc. and see that you are a great person, not erase the fact that you are white, black, etc. to make myself comfortable with you existing. You are the one twisting the legacy of Dr. King, not me.

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                                Does anyone still wonder why race can never be discussed?

                                :police:  "you piece of shit"  :police:  Is a clear violation of the rules.

                                As usual, if I follow the forum rules I made years ago and punish the person, then I'm a racist.  As the forum admin, I can't win for losing.

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                                  @raphjd:

                                  Does anyone still wonder why race can never be discussed?

                                  :police:  "you piece of shit"   :police:   Is a clear violation of the rules.

                                  As usual, if I follow the forum rules I made years ago and punish the person, then I'm a racist.   As the forum admin, I can't win for losing.

                                  I clearly got too emotional in that post and I do apologize, but you will not be accused of being racist by me for punishing me. I did indeed violate the rules; therefore, I should be punished. I am just sick and tired of people trying to minimize the effects of slavery and Jim Crow on our lives today. It is wrong and it needs to be called out. You cannot erase the effects of the torture, enslavement and second-class citizenship of a people for centuries and then pretend like none of it happened and the descendants of those people have no right to feel any kind of way about this country's bloody history OR they have no right to make arguments about the effects of this country's bloody history. No one is calling for white guilt or any of the crap you keep ranting against. It's about acknowledgement and understanding. Why is that so hard to agree with?

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                                    And for those of you who keep trying to use Dr. King to shame black people, please remember (or lookup) that Republicans (many who are still in office today) were the main people arguing against making MLK Day a national holiday and urged Ronald Reagan not to observe it. Please watch the video in this post because there's no denying that it truly did happen: http://gogomrbrown.tumblr.com/post/155986485750/all-of-the-mlk-was-republican-people-need-to

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                                      Rep John Lewis is a liar.

                                      He didn't go to GWB's 2001 inauguration because he didn't believe GWB was the legitimate President.

                                      As I previously said, no one is so saintly that they are beyond reproach.

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                                        John Lewis acknowledges now that he did indeed skip GWB's inauguration. However, he now calls GWB a friend because GWB reached out to him and many other Democrats and met with them on many occasions. That has absolutely nothing to do with this. Once again, Donald Trump is our incoming President and he needs to show leadership and reach out in this instance. Only Donald Trump can fix this problem, no one else. There is a reason why he is so unpopular and why so many people (of all races) are out protesting in many cities and towns across this country. This is completely different than what took place in 2000 and 2001. For the umpteenth time, Donald Trump was fairly elected and is our legitimately elected president. That is not in dispute. What has upset me and many, many others is his disrespect of a Civil Rights hero with the comment that said Civil Rights hero is, "all talk and no action." He did not clarify what he meant by that statement so many have taken it as a shot at Lewis's Civil Rights record. That is not where we are going as a country and as a result, many are rightfully boycotting the upcoming inauguration.

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                                          If Trump does not apologize to John Lewis then he will not be my president

                                          Hate to break it to you but in two 2 days he WILL be our president and nothing you can do will change that, short of denying reality. If you would like to make that reality, you can renounce your citizenship and become a Mexican citizen in which case Donald Trump will not be your president  :funny2:

                                          Also Martin Luther King was not a saint by any means. He was Marxist

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                                            So, the 2 most recent republicans John Lewis doesn't/didn't think is a legitimate President.    It sounds like he's a political hack.

                                            So many people are protesting because of identity politics.  If you watch the YouTube videos were the protesters are interviewed, they are thick as shit.  They spout whatever they read on Faebook or whatever TYT tells them.

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