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    • unpleasedU Offline
      unpleased
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      It is a matter of opinion.

      All the right-thinkings seem to agree in expressing a certain line of thought,
      one that has been followed for many years and that has left so many people behind,
      now we have a situation where the market that wants stability, and people want to change.
      The people are sovereign: they chose. Respect for democracy is essential.

      Hot comments make little sense, it would be wiser to just wait and see what happens.

      Brexit and the latest election set a path in the same direction:
      try to extract a solution for the problems of the people in a different way.

      Thomas Jefferson said
      “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

      This is even more true for corporations:
      they're afraid of people, because they use the people to gain economic power,
      if the people decide the markets are no longer relevant for their interests,
      then the speculation of the financial market is essentially irrelevant.

      Corporations and investors use this as a deterrence/vengeance tool,
      calling this uncertainty to constrict people: this is not fair and deeply wrong.

      If duties on Chinese products will be applied, then many people I know will support him again.

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        Ronald1971
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        Americans have gone mad (at least about 60.000.000 of them).

        But he… America got the President they voted for and they deserve.

        I pity them, but at least we know what makes America great:
        Racism, Hatred, Xenophobia and kissing Putin´s arse.

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          Lorbenia
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          I am thoroughly disgusted.  To think that in this day and age we can elect a bigoted, racist, xenophobic, homophobic president with a right-wing, evangelical, bible-literalist nutjob of a vice president is beyond me.  Everything this country stands for has officially been thrown out the window in favor of this creep.

          Our only hope is somebody assassinates him (and Pence), the republican moderates in the house and senate keep his antics to a minimum, or he does something stupid (which he will) and gets himself impeached.

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            amicusets
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            Proud to have helped deliver him Pennsylvania!  ;D

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            • unpleasedU Offline
              unpleased
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              @Ronald1971:

              Americans have gone mad (at least about 60.000.000 of them).

              But he… America got the President they voted for and they deserve.

              I pity them, but at least we know what makes America great:
              Racism, Hatred, Xenophobia and kissing Putin´s arse.

              @Lorbenia:

              I am thoroughly disgusted.  To think that in this day and age we can elect a bigoted, racist, xenophobic, homophobic president with a right-wing, evangelical, bible-literalist nutjob of a vice president is beyond me.  Everything this country stands for has officially been thrown out the window in favor of this creep.

              Our only hope is somebody assassinates him (and Pence), the republican moderates in the house and senate keep his antics to a minimum, or he does something stupid (which he will) and gets himself impeached.

              I don't think so: recognising problems is important.

              As far as I'm concerned:

              • dictatorship in thought has always brought bad results (aka gone mad, assassinations and all that)
              • the denial observed in Europe will lead to its collapse if a change will not be correctly handled
              • this is an unexplored path, no matter how controversial a first step is, it's welcome
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                SemenDemon
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                @brianboru72:

                Though the campaign was filled with unprecedented negativity, and even though Trump seems to be one of the most unqualified to hold the position, I really hope for the best for America and by extension the rest of the world. The only reason outsiders care so much is because the influence of America is felt all over the world.

                May the new President overcome his failings and rise to the job. I still need to recover from the shock.

                Ditto.

                I gotta say, though, I was really drunk last night (personal reasons, not because of the election. Just good timing there) and felt a lot more open to the idea of silver linings. I woke up this afternoon feeling as if I'd come out of a nightmare. Now that the alcohol has worn off, the gravity off this is starting to sink in. His temperament just scares me so much in terms of foreign policy. But I am also hoping that his victory has been sobering, and that he realizes the importance of his position.

                I am not going to engage in partisan bullying and all that shit. I didn't vote for either candidate, and I wouldn't have been happier with either being elected. I am going to remain open-minded, but that doesn't change the fact that I am still pretty worried. If no other good comes of this, I'm likely to be a lot more involved/vocal than ever before in checking the President-elect on his bullshit (same would've been true of Hillary, though), because I am determined not to let him make a catastrophe out of his presidency. I am not going to be outright obstinate (I loathe divisive, counterproductive partisan obstinacy and pettiness), but I'm no longer going to be as complacent and apathetic as I have been historically, having always hated politics to begin with.

                Please don't be everything the Dems said you'd be, Trump. I am hoping he realizes his position, tones down his insolence and rhetoric and finally becomes more presidential. One reassuring thing is that it does seem like he's been doing so gradually. He's toned down his overall arrogance and oafishness considerably since last year. Not nearly  enough, but enough to notice. So here's to hoping for continued personal progress on his end. If he doesn't shape the fuck up, I can at least take solace in knowing his insolence will not help him to accomplish anything, and he'll be a lame duck president.

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                  SemenDemon
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                  @dist:

                  At least SNL will have plenty of material for the next 4 years.

                  I do love Alec Baldwin's Trump impression.

                  PS: Sorry for double-post. I dunno how to delete and amend previous posts… Mods, feel free to punish me. :police:

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                    tinci01
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                    I'm not american. i'm from slovenia but please don't send me black magic or anything else. i was against trump. he sounded so stupid those 3 weeks just like slovene straight guys. everyone else was for him, just because of melania. I actually felt worried for you guys, but today i heard him talking over radio and he felt so different. like he just became new mum. and my friend felt same way, so now i think you just might be ok. give him a chance. he might surprise you. don't burn whole america because of him and don't leave america. we have syrians here already.  :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2:

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                      Ronald1971
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                      @unpleased:

                      @Ronald1971:

                      Americans have gone mad (at least about 60.000.000 of them).

                      But he… America got the President they voted for and they deserve.

                      I pity them, but at least we know what makes America great:
                      Racism, Hatred, Xenophobia and kissing Putin´s arse.

                      @Lorbenia:

                      I am thoroughly disgusted.  To think that in this day and age we can elect a bigoted, racist, xenophobic, homophobic president with a right-wing, evangelical, bible-literalist nutjob of a vice president is beyond me.  Everything this country stands for has officially been thrown out the window in favor of this creep.

                      Our only hope is somebody assassinates him (and Pence), the republican moderates in the house and senate keep his antics to a minimum, or he does something stupid (which he will) and gets himself impeached.

                      I don't think so: recognising problems is important.

                      Ok Trump is a master in recognizing problems, but also a master in not having any solution that is going to work.

                      But because Trump recognizes problems, he is worth your vote?

                      That I don't get from the Trump voters. The man is rambling on, names a few problems and some unworkable solutions and they vote for it.
                      Clinton is by far not the best thinkable candidate, that I admit. But Trump is so far worse.

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                        ILBear
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                        I think it should be, "Make America H8 Again!"

                        I'm disappointed.

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                          Ellis
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                          @amicusets:

                          Proud to have helped deliver him Pennsylvania!  ;D

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                          • unpleasedU Offline
                            unpleased
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                            @Ronald1971:

                            @unpleased:

                            @Ronald1971:

                            Americans have gone mad (at least about 60.000.000 of them).

                            But he… America got the President they voted for and they deserve.

                            I pity them, but at least we know what makes America great:
                            Racism, Hatred, Xenophobia and kissing Putin´s arse.

                            @Lorbenia:

                            I am thoroughly disgusted.  To think that in this day and age we can elect a bigoted, racist, xenophobic, homophobic president with a right-wing, evangelical, bible-literalist nutjob of a vice president is beyond me.  Everything this country stands for has officially been thrown out the window in favor of this creep.

                            Our only hope is somebody assassinates him (and Pence), the republican moderates in the house and senate keep his antics to a minimum, or he does something stupid (which he will) and gets himself impeached.

                            I don't think so: recognising problems is important.

                            Ok Trump is a master in recognizing problems, but also a master in not having any solution that is going to work.

                            But because Trump recognizes problems, he is worth your vote?

                            That I don't get from the Trump voters. The man is rambling on, names a few problems and some unworkable solutions and they vote for it.
                            Clinton is by far not the best thinkable candidate, that I admit. But Trump is so far worse.

                            An answer to this would be affected by many many personal opinions developed during years of my life, god bless you if I skip xD

                            An opposition reassured by years of stable political terms and convinced to win by the media skeptically accepts a defeat like this.
                            What I wanna state clearly is only that he won; now he deserves a chance and his office deserves respect.

                            Taken that any past president has been normally able to achieve only a partial amount of promises
                            (heard ~75% on average just some mins ago… Is this right ?) :
                            we do not know what his primary objectives are, as we did not know with any other president.

                            Any assertion on his declared plans is an unabashed strongly opinionated judge.
                            No matter how someone is skilled or experienced,
                            no one is actually able to give a judge on something that no one is able to know and that is yet to happen.

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                              cuggsy
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                              I was not aware he was particularly religious. What branch does he support? :afr:

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                                bahlah
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                                If repeal of LGBT rights (marriage, adoption, use of preferred wahsrooms, option to say they are gay/straight/bi without fears of being "cured"), then yes, America will be "great again".

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                                  Zipperface
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                                  @cuggsy:

                                  I was not aware he was particularly religious. What branch does he support? :afr:

                                  The worship of Hisownself. That's it. He thinks that Second Chronicles is pronounced 'two Chronicles'. He is a fraud and a con man. But then, we recently had a smirk-faced frat boy in office that went, 'Mission Accomplished'. Perhaps the Evangelicals have finally found their Anti-whatever.

                                  Bitter. Yeah, a bit. But not nearly as much as fucking depressed.

                                  Cheers

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                                    z3n1th
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                                    When did America STOP being great?

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                                      tightass2020
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                                      @z3n1th:

                                      When did America STOP being great?

                                      Tuesday, November 8, 2016. Haven't you read the news?

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                                        z3n1th
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                                        @tightass2020:

                                        @z3n1th:

                                        When did America STOP being great?

                                        Tuesday, November 8, 2016. Haven't you read the news?

                                        I have… but I'm sure that it will take more than 1 man to UN-great America...

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                                          mike4612
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                                          @dzirlo:

                                          @hotscott:

                                          Sure I have a comment.  Fuck that guy right in the pussy.  Or was it grab him right in the pussy.

                                          why such a foul language?

                                          after all, they say, in democracy, people get the government they deserve.  :hug2:

                                          Right!  You can teach that guy how to be polite, so he can screw you for good.

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                                            mike4612
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                                            @brianboru72:

                                            Though the campaign was filled with unprecedented negativity, and even though Trump seems to be one of the most unqualified to hold the position, I really hope for the best for America and by extension the rest of the world. The only reason outsiders care so much is because the influence of America is felt all over the world.

                                            May the new President overcome his failings and rise to the job. I still need to recover from the shock.

                                            I did wonder how that guy got elected to be your president.  And now history repeated across the Pacific with this guy.

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