Do you believe in God, even you being gay?

aushook

absolutely.

oliblo

I believe in God, always have & always will

jeverfhirlwi

so basically on this forum people post their thoughts and don't read other post and dont reply to anything, they just write some s*** like on your own blog.. great….

Well, we're here just for bonus point though.

Btw, i still believe in God. It has nothing to do with me being bi though.

dummdidore

Atheism is the opposite of believe. It just states that it is highly unlikeable that there is a god. The likeablility is defined by empiric evidence. The same as it is highly unlikeable that there are unicorns, dwarfs, talking 8 foot bunnies or leprechauns. An Agnostic by the way is different to an Atheist in the following way: he or she still sees a possibility that there could be a god, while an Atheist sees those chances going to zero - based on missing empiric evidence.

Science, which usually is the above described base of Atheism, also only works with empiric evidence. This is the difference between religions and science. Empiric evidence is the basis of Science. And accepting just any claim that is written in old books, no matter how clearly it is proven wrong by science, that is the base of religion.

And for those who experienced what they call a 'personal god': Scientists have begun to understand the psycho-evolutionary and neurobiological reasons for why men almost automatically tends to create a higher beeing. But that does not mean, that there is a higher beeing. Read the books, they are all there with all the empiric evidence neccessary.

Now, I know that it is useless to discuss with sworn religious people because they ignore or simply do not understand the concept of empiric, peer-reviewed data and evidence.

Nevertheless I think everybody has the right to believe in what ever religion they want to. At home or in their churches, synagoges, mosques and temples. But keep your faith out of politics, schools and universities. That is were it not does belong. Otherwise the religious freedom for ALL religions and Atheists is not guaranteed.

beau

Yes, cause I dont think God judges, after all, he created me gay.

Ercian

I am an atheist.
Even if there is a God in our universe, he doesn't care about us absolutely. I consider that people have invented a religion for benefits not for God, but for themselves.

cupofass

Why give faith to someone who's shown immeasurable pain to innocent people? I can consider myself fortunate in many areas, could it be God? Maybe, but whenever I've called he's never answered as he's so fond of doing with his disciples in the Bible.When I needed him most there was no answer, when I needed someone to help me, there was no one around, it was then that I realized that I was believing in humanities greatest lie, God.

helloitsmesf

no i dont believe in a personal god.
but hypothetically, it there were a god and this god was the god people keep on pertaining to as the all loving god, then that god wouldnt have a problem with you being gay. there's literally nothing wrong with loving another person.

obras62

I believe in God, however, I don't believe in the religions of the world.
Think about this, How many different religions are there with how many different 'versions' of God?
How can that be?
It can't hence there is but one God and all of the religions who try to say that they are right and the others are wrong are wrong.
God is different to each culture thus we have differences, however, that doesn't make any of them right.

Religion was made by Man to explain the things that education couldn't or didn't at the time, now it is used to rule people and for hate.
Being gay and believing in God is not necessarily a bad thing; being gay and believing that people will treat you correctly, not that's a different question.

shanefl2002

@gaypraha2:

First I'm not american and despise them and their "in god we trust " even on banknote.
2/ you only talk about the bible and the christian religion. I never said the christian religious is not crap.
Creation here again has nothing to do with believing in a "higher power", it only deals with stupid crazy radical americans , not the subject here as well.
I stand by my point, science as of today can not refute if the big bang was the result of a will from something/someone, and the reason is simple , the object of science is not to refute or explain such things.
You mix the fact of thinking , it's a likely probability that the whole universe, aka the origin of the big bang is the result of some "higher power" and the dumb ass man made religions.. that's 2 things totally different that don't exclude each other. Of course the "Genese" from the bible is a little story for children, even the pope says so ! It's no more the middle age dude…

Dude,
Not to attack you, but your words portray you as someone with whom you are dissing. Yes, I am an American and I'm deeply concerned with your comments. In particularly 'despise them and their "in god[sic] we trust "'. Why do you have so much contempt for ALL of us? Not all Americans are what you describe as "radical". I don't know your origin and simply don't care. I love you anyway because that's how most Americans believe. We love everyone. We want what is the consensus for being best for humanity for ALL of the world of which We live. We have the power to ensure the rest of the world is protected when the need for protection arises. I certainly would appreciate your consideration for all men when making your opinions available for others in future post. I don't believe the original post/question was created for us to make "radical" attacks on each on the basis of our beloved country of origin. Please adjust your attitude when making further post.
Thanks very much for your consideration in advance.
shanefl2002
(USA)

karunama

@gaypraha2:

ok so Jack777, you are an atheist, which is a faith by itself like any other religion. please respect people and dont try to convert others people to your own faith. dont say things like " all religious books.." you dont know that( no you dont, you believe that, which is totally different). It's equally stupid as someone let's say catholic, would say you are Buddhist so your religion is crap only mine is real. this is stupid and only brings war.

Claiming that atheism is a 'faith' strikes me as very narrow minded. It is possible to disagree with the world's religions without relying on faith. Well, to be fair, one must have faith that our senses are at least somewhat accurate, we're not figments of another's imagination or data in a simulation. Even so, comparing that basic standpoint to an actual religion and claiming that using it as the basis of reasoning is an attempt to 'convert people to your own faith' is ludicrous.

Secondly, if we're talking about major religions, there are only three religious books, and they're essentially identical, minus cultural differences. Well, to be fair, the Quran and Bible are both much longer than the Torah, but, having read them all, his point is valid, even if the Torah and Bible sometimes mix allegory with historical accounts. Buddhism on the other hand doesn't have a uniting major theological text, nor does Hinduism, which are both largely regionally distinct. There is literally nothing in his statements that isn't provable beyond his standpoint that they're fictional. While that claim isn't technically provable, his arguments are logically sound. If you're going to disagree with someone over such a contentious topic, I'll thank you to make some sort of logical rebuttal, rather than attempting to refute a sound argument with whatever wishy-washy hippy bullshit I had the displeasure of being forced to quote.

P.S. After reading some of your other messages on this board, I feel confident in saying you need to tone your bigotry down. Regardless of whether it's about skin color or country of origin, it's ridiculous and unnecessary here.

raphjd

:police: Please dial back the bickering or I might have to issue some official warnings. :police:

TheNewt

Yes I believe in God, even though I am bisexual.

mufum69

I never used to believe in god.
As a matter of fact I blamed god for the way I turned out.
But when I was down on my luck and asked for help god was there to help.
He didn't ask what my sexual preference was, he just helped.

I think people confuse god with the punishing church and their ideals.
My god is not a punishing god
Probably why I live a spiritual life
And why I have peace of mind today

Thalion

Of course I do, even more, I pray for getting pregnant

jkronfuss

Yes, I'm a Roman Catholic, I was raised as one and despite what the Church says I rely in the Bible, I love my boyfriend, is love, not lust… and that book just mention sodomy in the Apocalipsis so they can go f*ck themselves, I do believe in God. ^-^

aushook

absolutely 100% yes He's been so good even in the lowest point of my life, He was there to help me!

syuvan12

I don't think there's any relation.

As for if I believe in God, kind of. Lemme explain.
I believe that there is some God-like entity out there somewhere, but I don't believe in any religion, least of all those religions which bash other religions and discriminate. I mean, sure there are many good things we can learn from religion (I was raised as a Hindu, and there are a lot of stories and tales from which you can learn a lot of life lessons) but that's no reason to literally start killing people because they don't believe in the same thing.
So, basically, I don't believe in creationism and I'm all for science and The Big Bang Theory and stuff. But here's my theory/belief: According to the Big Bang Theory, the entire universe was like a dense structure and then there was a Big Bang and everything started expanding, right? But what created (Idk if that's the word I'm looking for) this dense structure? My belief is that some God-like entity may have created it.

Another theory I believe is that God, or any equivalent to God, is kinda like Schrödinger's cat. God is neither real nor unreal until we can see God. Does that make any sense?

But then again, I try not to get too engrossed in these subjects, cuz like it or not, we're probably not gonna get an answer to whether there is a God or not in our lifetime. Of course we should continue research and stuff about the creation of the universe, but there's no point in common people like us to be arguing about this kinda stuff.

Thalion

@syuvan12:

I don't think there's any relation.

As for if I believe in God, kind of. Lemme explain.
I believe that there is some God-like entity out there somewhere, but I don't believe in any religion, least of all those religions which bash other religions and discriminate. I mean, sure there are many good things we can learn from religion (I was raised as a Hindu, and there are a lot of stories and tales from which you can learn a lot of life lessons) but that's no reason to literally start killing people because they don't believe in the same thing.
So, basically, I don't believe in creationism and I'm all for science and The Big Bang Theory and stuff. But here's my theory/belief: According to the Big Bang Theory, the entire universe was like a dense structure and then there was a Big Bang and everything started expanding, right? But what created (Idk if that's the word I'm looking for) this dense structure? My belief is that some God-like entity may have created it.

Another theory I believe is that God, or any equivalent to God, is kinda like Schrödinger's cat. God is neither real nor unreal until we can see God. Does that make any sense?

But then again, I try not to get too engrossed in these subjects, cuz like it or not, we're probably not gonna get an answer to whether there is a God or not in our lifetime. Of course we should continue research and stuff about the creation of the universe, but there's no point in common people like us to be arguing about this kinda stuff.

Well, as a physcist i must say that there is not need for a "god", the actual theories, must to be proven, i need to say, allows the begining of the universe from nothing because of the concept of quantum vaccum. The quantum theories says that there are particles always stepping in and out of reality, since their life time is too small to be measured. This quantum fluctuation produced the big bang and all we know. Of course it is not my intention to offend the believes of any one, just saying about the actual theoriesof the physcists. But the beauty of physics is that it wants to explain everything through mathemathics, and with evidence, obviously

I'm not sure about a theologist or a phylosopher would say about your belive of schrodinger's god, but, some where i read that the proof of god is way beyond the hands of science. As a physcist your analogy is kind of cute, and weird.

Zipperface

No. Now if you were to ask, "What is God?" I would answer, "The sum total of the universe." Do I believe this exists? Well, let's just say that those that think reality is a mere simulation are either nuts, Phillip K. Dick or rich assholes. Yes, reality is real. But do I have to worship it in some pagan way, I'd say, "no". Respect it certainly; it can kill you! But worship, not so much.