Straight guys in gay porn; are the really straight?

[pornofan]

Bait Buddies is one of those fantasy sites where the "strait" victim is probably performing for pay. Same with Unglory Hole. In both cases, prominent gay porn stars have been presented as innocent and naive straits being tricked into something they have definitely done before and on camera.

Hatrick: Also, my straight friend (straight?) who likes girls (obviously from his Tinder and Badoo behavior) said that if I was super rich, he would absolutely want to date me.

If he's not just being kind and flattering to a friend but actually means he could and would get off with you for pay, call him on it: Really? You could get off with a guy? Would you have to be drunk first or just bribed for a secret session? Wouldn't you be afraid that such a thing would fuck up our relationship? Or is money the only thing holding you back?

Maybe he does not actually know you are v interested and is simply making conversation or saying something functionally equivalent to a man telling a woman, "Hey, I'm definitely only into big/small tits, but otherwise I'd definitely hook up with you." Or, "You know I'm not into men, but you're definitely one fine sex fantasy for those who are."

If he's serious, take him up on it. Offer to hire him for an evening, go on a date, pick him up in a bar when the babes have him horny and frustrated at last call. Lots of fantasies can be played out. Maybe it would be an adventure he'd like, an opportunity to find out whether he actually could stud service a dude, whether men give better bj's than women (some do, some don't– surprise!). Maybe he can't get a female to offer her ass to him and he's always wanted to explore that.

If it's not a matter of religion or something, a mouth is a mouth and an ass is an ass, if he just wants someone to take his cock past the bursting point. Or does he mean that for the right pay he could suck cock or take an ass pounding? If your relationship as friends would not be jeopardized (and there are no guarantees ahead of time) and You would not feel abused or degraded.

I was once told by a str8 friend that if he ever were to do something with a dude, I'm not his type. That was disappointing because then it meant it was not a matter of his hangups or prejudices, but that everything else being equal (which it was not), he just was not that into me. Standard reason why anyone gets turned down by someone they would choose but who does not want to choose them. Bummer.

That is not, however, what you are reporting. If he's suggesting he'd be open to an offer, start saving your money.

[pornofan]

ginouy: Pls see my comment a few minutes ago.

Just wanted to add that I do love the military videos from Bobby and others who get real enlisted, active duty military men to have on-cam sex for pay. Most of them are very obviously str8. Some just need/want the money, perhaps like the idea of being so hot that fags want them and will pay to watch them. Some are being led to believe there will be pussy in their future.

But what really turns me on is that these men are sufficiently horny they can be sweet-talked, cajoled, and bribed into getting off because they are horny and it is an easy orgasm not involving their own hand. Lots of repeat visits, too, and Bobby, at least, recruits his maximally fit studs partly by word of mouth when someone who had a good time at his place lets a friend in on the secret after convincing him it is safe, fun, rewarding, and amazingly hot sex that they probably are not getting orally from females and not getting that easily.

Aside from being supplied with porn, booze, cigarettes, poppers, and toys for solo sessions or interactive contact to the point of ejaculation, even those who have gfs can enjoy the attention, the "egoboo" of having their cock worshipped, and the convenient cash.

These videos are pretty clearly WYSIWYG – What you see is what you get. The guys get a place to hang out and drink for free. Often you can hear partying in the background as a group of trained killers relaxes in another room, awaiting their turn to bust a nut. That's just hot all by itself, right? That these young men are laughing and socializing while waiting for their closeup and their (money) shot performance. They know what they are all there for and are obviously not uptight about it, not afraid they will be criticized rather than supported by others working on the same military base.

Not only are some of these dudes having the best sex of their lives and even coming back for more, there are often scenes with two buddies (or strangers), wank side by side while talking about the "bitches" they're watching on the screen, and circle jerks (no interaction) where horndogs are just being natural and spreading their wild oats together with other "real men" who have enough confidence that they are manly men that they're not afraid to surrender nonsense about self-doubts or fears of the opinion of others, and just freely indulge their carnal animal appetites with the assistance and support of others-- on camera!-- because that is what men do and what men have been bred for millenia to do as part of experiencing and enjoying the fertility for which evolutionary imperatives to glory in their reproductive games and activities has prepared them.

Add their youth and manly beauty and the casual way they reveal their most intimate toss-off grips and rhythms the sensuous environment of booze, porn, and the use of poppers and devices they may never have encountered down on the farm before they joined an all male society where they are systematically driven and polished into the best physical position of their lives, a situation where testosterone is at its peak and opportunity for release is at a minimum.

That puts them in a position to have their needs met by a skilled professional encouraging their uninhibited sensual indulgence in the glorious capacity of their bodies, and it can all be quite arousing, even granted the often shitty camerawork and incompetent lighting. Mostly, these men have absolutely no idea how superbly they are able to represent the glorious sexual capabilities they have only begun to enjoy a few years ago and may yet to have settled into fully as their right and privilege.

Bobby Garcia, of course, is not the only one who has found a way to make money pandering to the unlimited lusts of well built youths with severely limited outlets for their vital bodily fluids, but the easy and confident way in which so many are so willing to play gleefully when given a chance (and the right encouragement and circumstances) certainly satisfies those who sign up, to the point where sometimes one can see them move from nervous, uptite, insecure, and basically inexperienced, to wildly experimental participation that makes their lives better and happier and does the same for viewers playing along at home.

I find it encouraging that more and more dudes seem to find it acceptable to take it where they can get it, seemingly without guilt or shame. It's certainly exciting to get to see and hear their most private moments that it may be no man will ever get to observe again. And if they are loosened up enough to accept physical pleasure without hangups, so much the better for everyone.

This kind of de-heteronormalizing of acceptable behavior for someone with a hard cock is a good thing for society. And, yeah, a few of these men may take a more aggressively active role in exploring the chance to suck or bottom, but even when the presented fantasy is that we porn consumers are watching actual pickups, genuine seductions, legitimate first-time participation, spreading the meme is a good thing in general.

I mean, I'm a believer that porn is good for society, opens up our attitudes and widens the range of the possible. Right now in the US there is a television insurance advert where a somewhat brawny man puts on makeup and a costume and goes out as a pink fairy for what seems to be his daughter's party, where she is thrilled that Daddy is being so silly just for her and her friends, who all squeal with delight.

The art of the possible is expanding all the time. Are men actually having on-cam sex in public as a result of a random solicitation by strangers? Unlikely, but like the stunningly revelatory true stories in the Straight to Hell (Manhattan Journal of Cocksucking) magazines and books from Boyd MacDonald, they change and enlarge our world.

I think that's true even when the fantasy is fictional, and even when the cumshot is no more real than the blood spattered all over during the shower scene of Psycho. I do hate fake cumshots, but at least now the world allows cumshots to be represented routinely, which is as important in its way as magazines that show naked women in full, not with a staple getting in the way of those who want to look.

At least we've moved from fake cum being a significant advance over prudes and censors to the point where the real thing is expected. And where actual firemen, cops, soldiers, sailors, flyboys, and Marines are getting it on so that we can enjoy their private pleasure, too. Long ago, Sergeant Swann, a genuine Marine, fucked a lot of other actual Marines and helped lead the way to what we can take for granted now.

Also, it certainly did not hurt the move in this direction to have porn stars in cammies and other military costumes presenting fictional versions of what we now can see actually happening, but boy am I glad we can just find the real stuff of dreams to play along with and not just have to settle for pure fiction instead.

[7N7]

YES, most of them from the major producers. It's obvious.
And it's obvious they don't do anything with another guy for free.

Do you think those tops from MACHOFUCKER are really gay or they are doing it for money?
OK. Most of you rather believe the ugly ones might be straight but the handsome ones are definitely gay, and at nights you think you and the handsome ones will be boyfriends, it's typical. But no, most are straight too… BelAmi, Sean Cody, GayHoopla, Corbin Fisher stars ... they have girlfriends, wifes and kids.

I don't like to watch 2 gays having sex and getting paid for it as they already do it for free, if I had to choose a guy to pay him to have sex with another guy, of course I'd pay a straight one and it's not as hard as you think. It's really easy to persuate straight guys to do anything, you just have to know how to do it.

I like to watch straight guys, either solo, with another guy or a girl, I don't care.

Lucky we have straight guys in "gay" porn too. Without them, it would be nothing like we use to watch.

[horyna]

That's a rather romantic view: Porn stars doing porn because they adore sex. But it's also a job, isn't it?

I don't see why gay porn stars should not get paid. Actually porn stars don't get paid for having sex but for being filmed while doing and that stuff being published. You cannot go to gay people and ask them if you can watch them having sex. … Maybe you can and maybe they do it ...  ::)  :laugh:

Gay people have done it with women for centuries, why shouldn't it work vice versa? And in the times of Viagra I don't think it's a major problem any more.

[moraszapamti]

They are not straight.. simple as that

[7N7]

@moraszapamti:

They are not straight.. simple as that

In your pinky dreams

[horyna]

lol, I wished I still have those pinky dreams. There is nothing wrong about a little self-delusion from time to time.

[TheNewt]

If they have sex with men or are doing porn where they have sex with men, they are not hetero/straight at all.  They're either bisexual o gay but are in denial or closeted about it.

This whole "gay for pay" thing is a myth that's been around for decades, and contrary to another myth you don't make a lot of money doing porn.

[semurg30]

I think some are really straight. The ones who are losers with no jobs skills, a criminal record or addicted to drugs….which is a lot of them.

They take injections in their dicks, watch straight porn and only fuck for a few minutes.

I think we assume straight people would never do gay porn because they're not gay...but they do it so they can get money for drugs or to pay their baby mommas or their motorcycles or their cheap cheap tattoos.

Sure some are BI or realize they're Bi when they take a dick up the butt. But I think a lot of the gay4pay are straight...but they also have nothing going for them and are just sorry as shit. They're not closet cases like we delude ourselves into thinking they are...they're just losers who lives suck.

[viscous]

The idea that men can't be straight because they have sex with other men in porn is ridiculous. It's a job. And your sexuality and your actions are two separate things, and not necessarily related. Are gay men who are married to women their whole lives and never have sex with men not "really" gay?

[elroy103063]

It's not the dick in their ass, but the smile on their face

[gaypraha2]

that question is like " does santa claus really exist?"  ;D

[ddesire]

Some of them are real, but most of them, as far as I have observed, are just gay or bi.

A lot of kinds of gay 4 pay videos like Czech Hunter talked with some "straight" guy and wait, I have seen this guy in other video!

And in some studio, they use straight guys and don't use "straight" word for sale. Most of them just start with a solo, then try it with a girl (like Corbin Fisher's American College Sex) and then ask the boy to do top, in the end try to do bottom. Also, Haley(a.k.a Simon Dexter) from Sean Cody, one of my favs, is quite straight judging from his Instagram.

But it makes no harm to pretend that these are true to satisfy your fantasy.

[Fisto]

@semurg30:

I think some are really straight. The ones who are losers with no jobs skills, a criminal record or addicted to drugs….which is a lot of them.

Who? This seems super presumptuous.

[JerodParker]

A friend pointed this out to me but it might actually be easier for a straight man to bottom.  If they're really straight, they might not get hard enough to pound some ass since it's a mental/attraction factor.  But just cleaning their ass and just feeling that sensation while just lying or writhing there is simpler.

I kinda feel sad when I find out that Sean Cody guys have wives or girlfriends.  Like Curtis (married) or Jarek (was with his girlfriend when he got arrested).  Robert Van Damme and Reese Rideout have a wives.  Rocco Reed went from straight porn to gay porn then quit.  I wonder what happened in their life that they decided that go do something they might not be into, just for money.  Like they dug a hole they couldn't get out of.

[Hookum]

@ddesire:

A lot of kinds of gay 4 pay videos like Czech Hunter talked with some "straight" guy and wait, I have seen this guy in other video!

I know exactly what you mean.  Years ago, I watched a Straight College Men clip that excited the hell out of me.  It was about a straight guy named Jon who was being paid to touch and be touched by another straight guy (Brian).  Jon claimed that he'd never done anything with a guy before, and that he was only doing it for the money.  I believed him, too, because Jon appeared very nervous and uncomfortable (major turn on 4 me), especially when Brian slid his hand down the front of Jon's underwear and started fiddling around with Jon's junk.  While Brian did this to him, Jon's face kept changing between visible discomfort, confusion, panic, anger, and a strange "gotta-go-to-my-happy-place" blank stare.  It excited the fuck out of me, and I must've blown my load to it about a hundred times.

…..then, years later, I saw him in Club 1821 Screen Test #1.  There he was, naked in a chair, looking all nervous and claiming that no guy had ever touched him before.  And when Brad Posey stroked Jon, Jon responded by making the very same faces he'd made in the 2SCM video.  I spat at my television and screamed: "YOU LYING WHORE!!!!!!"  (Okay, I didn't.  I hate to clean.  However, the rest of my story is true.

The point is:  There are no innocent, fresh-faced, first (and only) time, straight guys in gay porn.   It's all a mirage.  The kind of straight guy we want to do gay porn.......would never DO gay porn.  I wasted gigabites of bandwidth figuring this out.

[yuck2014]

I think the Gay Porn industry is full of a mismatch of Gay for pay models especially in the US, excepting the extreme TIM productions with hardcore bareback which are obviously committed gay men. Years ago if a guy bottomed he was considered the "gay" guy but now with sexual attitudes changing so much, also in RL where many claim to be bisexual, that has changed. Paddy O'Brien is a good case in question who almost "reeked" of heterosexuality until the pay was good enough to try being a bottom which I enjoyed as that has often mirrored my own experienced with so called straight or married men hat one day wanted to try being a bottom. Chaosmen I think has a sexy group of of all orientations present with good Flip flops scenes. Sean Cody has a great set of models that soon to be all versatile but I would suspect all are bisexual gay there. Jess and Jarec (yes him that went to jail) are super hot and that new cub Manny. WE have to remember porn is entertainment and these guys do a show and some are fastasy shows with horrendous actin, particularly when a a guy with a high pitched feminine voice says "Don´t touch me I am straight". I think most of us can overlook that if the model is hot and the action as well.

[addic2porn]

I think saying Straight is just a way to fulfill gay guys fantasies but I will write what I think may be the reasons why even straight guys may do gay or bi porn:

1. Quick money
2. Fun (trying some new territories)

[7N7]

Only fags "do not believe" there are straight men in gay porn, actually straight men are most of them because they are handsome, strong, masculine and do anything when they really need money.

Gay man handsome, strong and masculine is one in a million.

Bel Ami, Sean Cody, MEN, Corbin Fisher… stars are most straight. No matter what you say, no matter how you force to deny... they are not in your circle, they only do it for money.

If you have money and know some straight guy who needs/wants money you'll see how easy it is... but I doubt you have any straight friend or the courage to do it... because you are fag.

[erotique1]

Straight guys do gay porn all the time. It's for the $$$$.  I've known straight guys that have been strippers for gay clubs, worked at gay bars, and yes jumped into the gay pool because it was to make money.  Granted, there are men who have sex with other men and identify as straight, which I suppose could be thing because there have been gay guys that sleep with women and they're still gay. (Ie. the ones that get married because they've been pressured into being "normal' and have children and either live a lie, or think they're doing what they should be doing.)