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    Do you believe in God, even you being gay?

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      nightshade
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      Without a doubt I believe in God. The Bible says he created all. That includes gays. Consider what the world population would be today if God had made all gays heterosexual breeders!!! not only did he make us..he had a plan for us!

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        xxBulletxx
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        @nightshade:

        Without a doubt I believe in God. The Bible says he created all. That includes gays. Consider what the world population would be today if God had made all gays heterosexual breeders!!! not only did he make us..he had a plan for us!

        Haha that's an interesting way to see it!  😄

        I believe in God too, although I must admit I struggled a lot when I was first sure that I was gay and "different"…

        The hardest part would be to hear your favourite pastors, teachers, and people around you saying how being homosexual is a sin... Everytime I cringed a bit when they mentioned that although I didn't do anything wrong  :cry2:

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          Duvet
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          Of course I believe in God! All these weird anti-gay stuff are human creations, not God's! He loves us all, so he is not considering us sinners. This is what humans say, not God's words.

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            scramer
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            I do not. I also think most religions do more harm than good in the world.

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              durexxx 0
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              first i really wanna thank you for for posting this interesting question ? i hope you will read everything i wrote :  im just gonna tell you my believe on this im 24 years old guy, i live in middle east, im christian ive always had that wonderful relationship with god until i knew or actually faced my fears and conflicts about my sexuality cause deep down ive always knew that i have something for men but i never wanted to admit it.anyways that's not the subject but when i did face all of that i decided to get away from god for a period time just for the sake of being honest with myself and god, i didn't want any more conflicts or issues so i thought back then that its best way to deal with the whole issue, cause if i wanted to keep my life as it is with me having fun and sleeping with boys i would be a Hypocrite or double-faced and that is not true or way of living so after i had all what i wanted it turned out that no matter what god will always love you and no matter what you will always be his son, and he created you that way and god created the whole universe and he's capable of understanding and creating all of these magnificent stuff and living beings and he cant understand or accept the idea that you are gay!!!! that doesn't make any sense i think that homophobia comes from culture and the church but it does not come from god!!!! if anyone brings the story of sodom and gomorrah that god doomed people over their because of homosexuality that's totally wrong, they were full of sin, girls used to sleep with their fathers and bring children and many more stories so homosexuality was not that main issue.
              god's love have no limits its purely unconditional love. believe in that only
              just be a good son of god, pray , only do good , and try to stick with one guy and respect your body and i believe god will bless you for that … i hope you will read everything i said because its out of a personal experience and i hope it might be useful for you or at least inspiring.... thanks for reading... regards from jordan

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                gusfring
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                yes. I think god loves all beings.

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                  gaypraha2
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                  I really don't understand your question…
                  What's the relation between fucking guys and believing God exist?!!!
                  Sure most religion are against impure act like fucking in the ass yet what does this have anything to do with  one's beliefs???
                  Let's say I'm gay and yet I pray.. it means I know I might burn in hell , but why would that makes me think there is no god ?...
                  your sexuality has absolutely nothing to do with your personals beliefs. Unless you are a coward that choose not to believe because otherwise that would mean you are a sinner...
                  It would be as dumb as not voting in an election for someone you know is gonna make changes for the whole society in good way but because in your own personal little life it would meant like paying more tax for you so you dont vote for him.. That would be dumb and irresponsible and selfish. you can be gay and catholic, knowing you are a sinner and still believe god exist...
                  Or you could be straight and atheist like most people in advanced societies.. No relation at all ..
                  That's my polite way of saying your question is dumb , sorry.  😄

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                    clark7
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                    I don't believe in God, but there's no relation with me being gay !!!! 😄

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                      goxt12
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                      There is no God. I'm one of Brights and I don't believe in any unscientific or paranormal stuff like that.

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                        z3n1th
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                        I don't think there is any relation, but being gay did help me to formulate my religious views (I don't believe in a God).

                        When I was in my teenage years, my catholic church tried to convert me towards the 'Godly path', and knowing that I could never change, I sought science and objectivity as hallmarks to the way I live. At the end of the day, I'm thankful to the church for 'opening my eyes', lol.

                        Btw, I'm from Malaysia, a Muslim majority country… Religion can be quite divisive (politically & socially) here... I don't like that  :-[

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                          jkronfuss
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                          Yes, being gay does not colide with the fact I'm catholic, I never felt any trouble on that regard, even if you read the bible the only place homosexuality is something it's againts of is the Apocalypse so no, I don't, anyhow, we'll see where they send me to…  :cool2:

                          I'm serious, I don't, I love my boyfriend, he loves me back, this is not out of sex or lust, so, yes, I feel ok. So does he, he is reaaaaally serious abou the whole Roman Catholic faith, he goes to church, prays, etc, fortunately he does not put any pressure on me to do the same. It's his faith, something private which I respect.

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                            miken14
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                            Firstly I consider all religions to be little more than 'Clubs' with rules, if you want to belong to the club you 'largely' abide by the rules. I have no respect for anything which requires 'blind faith' as the main requirement for it's existence. All religious documents purporting to be evidence of the actions of a supreme intelligence acting on Earth in my opinion are little more than historical documents giving accounts of events which have by and large been distorted through the retelling and embellished by religions whose main function throughout history has been to oppress, control and demonstrate a do as I say, not as do approach. If there is a hell then we are by and large safe since it is probably overflowing with so called religious people. Most people as they get older find religion like a drowning person clutching at fragile flotsam and jetsom. I have decided that I'm getting too old to have imaginary friends. In reality if God exists or existed then by definition if you look at the criteria he must have been or be a a more intelligent alien or more likely a race of aliens. I even have a problem with that since when you look at the constraints of interfacing our fragile bodies with the physics required to travel vast distances it's very unlikely. Just enjoy life as your a long time dead and be yourself. To believe that even f god existed he/it would condemn you to hell or a life of BDSM (hmmmmm) just for being gay, not having your foreskin, mutilated, not performing strange rituals which have very earth bound origins is ludicrous to the extreme.

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                              gaypraha2
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                              so basically on this forum people post their thoughts and don't read other post and dont reply to anything, they just write some s*** like on your own blog.. great….

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                                parinya001
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                                @Negrescence:

                                No. There is no relation.

                                I think So

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                                  ryujin
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                                  @parinya001:

                                  @Negrescence:

                                  No. There is no relation.

                                  I think So

                                  Personally I don't believe in god, but I don't think believing in god and being gay are related at all. In what way are they related? If there was a god, I imagine that they created humans, therefore meant for some people to be gay etc. might go against major religions, but they were written by men (yes men not god or angels) a long time ago, and times have changed.

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                                    JACK777
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                                    I know I'm gonna get chewed out for this but all religious books are actually works of fiction. They are meant to be a guideline as to how we should live our life. We should accept only the message of tolerance that these books teach us. It is people who make these religious books their weapons for world domination.

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                                      gaypraha2
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                                      ok so Jack777, you are an atheist, which is a faith by itself like any other religion. please respect people and dont try to convert others people to your own faith. dont say things like " all religious books.." you dont know that( no you dont, you believe that, which is totally different). It's equally stupid as someone let's say catholic, would say you are Buddhist so your religion is crap only mine is real. this is stupid and only brings war.

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                                        Karofsky
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                                        I don't believe in God, or a religion. I had considered it growing up, but when you know you're gay at a young age, and then have someone tell you that your natural attractions are wrong - made me quite suspicious. The more I thought, the more I started to theorize how it began, and reeled in so many followers. Let's look at how it began, the burning bush, a talking flame, claiming to be a higher power. In today's world, if ANYBODY mentions something with religious motivation - or the same thing. They'd be locked up in the loony bin with a custom strait jacket and a tiny cup of pills. So focus deeper on this. What are the signs of someone who exudes this kind of behavior. A) crazy. B) Trippin' balls. In todays world when people hallucinate, they have a quite vast array of characters to draw it from; smurfs, batman, Tasmanian devil - the list goes on. Back in those days when someone was high as a kite and tripping out on hallucinogens what exactly did they have to draw from? Fire provided heat, and their light. They didn't have cartoons or anything else. Thus leads me to the conclusion that the 'writers' were tripping out and decided to write out their ideologies and opinions out, followed with some elaborate filler stories to make a seemingly legit "religion". After all, when contemplating ones own morality and someone just handing an answer out - who wouldn't take it back then? (The days when being left handed was considered evil). It was an easy answer that drew in the masses. Since the talking bush, has anybody really seen proof of a higher power? Obviously the answer is no. Makes this nothing more than pseudoscience. So what exactly is religion? It's a form of brainwashing for false safety to control the masses. If there were a higher power that gave half a damn about us, I'm pretty sure a vast majority of the evils in the world would have been eradicated, and there would be ONE religion, NOT 4, 200 - and we would actually live in harmony.

                                        There are far more wondrous and amazing things in the universe. Like a nebula that creates stars and solar systems. Or the theory that Mars was once a habitual planet that was able to sustain life, and that we may have began there as evidenced by the findings on Mars (and that when life was wiped out from a meteor/comet the building blocks for human life was hurdled to earth were we started over - MANY years ago.) The supporting evidence of such is quite intriguing to think about - and much more believable than a 'higher power'. Such as the theory that extraterrestrial life has already shown it's presence, but the government keeps it hush hush so it wouldn't insight a world wide panic with such evidential proof that God and etc. really doesn't exist.

                                        Sorry I kind of got carried away haha d=

                                        Rest in Peace
                                        Cory Monteith
                                        1982 - 2013
                                        @};–

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                                          gaypraha2
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                                          dear karorsky.. again the same mix about religion and science.. a debate dead long , long years ago… science doesnt refute the existence of a "higher power" as you might think. Real scientists are agnostic, like Hubert Reeves who believe like any astrophysician there is life out there. The Big Bang was made by what/ who? science can't answer that  you say you dont "believe" in higher power, yet your are mesmerized by nebulas, life on mars and such... so you think all this beauty, the fact condition for life are so difficult to achieve, all this is just pure "hazard"... Most scientist , ( real one, not the local school teacher) Hawking and such, because they do are indeed scientist are impartial and objective and don't make conclusion based on beliefs but on observation, can't exlude that "higher power" that might be at the origin of it all : the big bang.

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                                            danijelr15
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                                            @gaypraha2:

                                            so basically on this forum people post their thoughts and don't read other post and don't reply to anything, they just write some s*** like on your own blog.. great….

                                            You want people to care, but they don't. Especially gay people. And no, there is no God. You live and you die. Move on.

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