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      Ashtom
      last edited by

      Hah, well… Honestly, i gotta say no. Its not a total letdown but had i had an opportunity to test it or try it out before, i guess i wouldnt have upgraded it right away but it was my choice and i kinda anticipated the possibility it might not be flawless (im not sure if any win ever was) so im waitin it out now and its not that bad that id get back to win 8.1 but yea, i guess i wouldnt recommend it for now, esp to the users of win 8.1.

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        MikeChang
        last edited by

        I did a test run on my old laptop Win 7 to Win 10 and still testing things out.

        If you aren't happy why not just roll back, you have 30 days after the upgrade to reset back to your original 7 or 8.1, then hang fire till you hear better reports and try again as the upgrade option is there for a full year from release.

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          cannonmc
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          I did an upgrade from the technical preview and it was the easiest upgrade I've ever done.

          You need to check all the settings because your privacy is shot with the default ones.

          And I still wouldn't want it as my main OS - I installed it on a laptop I rarely use

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            cannonmc
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            Perhaps just a couple or three links so you know what the 'privacy' discussion is about:

            Broken Windows Theory

            Windows 10: how much of my personal information can Microsoft access?

            And the ultimate:

            Microsoft Privacy Statement

            (Good luck with the last - prize for deciphering  :jiz: )

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              cannonmc
              last edited by

              And just for good luck :

              Windows 10 cumulative update causes 'reboot loop' havoc for some users

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              • MrMazdaM Offline
                MrMazda Global Moderator
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                From my little experience with Windows 10 as an IT professional, I can say with confidence that I hate it even more than I hated Windows 8.1…. In my opinion, Microsoft has kept a lot of the more advanced settings such as manually setting your IP address on a network card incredibly difficult to get to by comparison to even Windows 8. In short, Windows 10 from my experience is Windows Vista all over again. I have actually had to roll a number of customers back manually from Windows 10 back to Windows 7 because the change was just too much for them and trying to find the options for what they need is not exactly easy.

                Sure, Microsoft has brought back the start menu, but it's nothing like it used to be, and the options in which you can select are far fewer and way more limited. Wireless networking is one big thing that has changed. I'm sure it is something that I could get used to, however the way that Windows 10 handles wireless connections in my opinion is pathetic to say the least. Unless you go in through a back-door option to manually configure all of your options, the standard interface with Windows 10 assumes a lot of things for you that aren't necessarily what they should be. Furthermore, on the topic of networking, Microsoft has done away with the 3 network location settings (Home, Business, & Public) and instead attempts to arrange firewall restrictions for you automatically. Trying to adjust any of these settings however is not an easy task. This is part of why I am a die hard Linux user.

                On top of the other obvious problems that have been discussed, there's also a lot that Microsoft needs to step up to make Windows 10 fully functional for more than just what they assume to be the "common folk" needs. Microsoft has spent too much time catering towards the common folk that they actually have taken a lot of the privacy control options that were once available right out of the equation. Instead, Microsoft assumes what you want to do and how you want to do it, then sets out a proprietary method in which to do it, which leaves absolutely no wiggle room for users who may want to secure things a little more tightly than the average person would. It's just another nightmare waiting to happen.

                Now as for the "free" part, don't kid yourself... This is nothing more than Microsoft's way of trying to make users feel like they are not being forced to switch to Windows 10, even though that is eventually going to come down the pipes in time, just like Windows XP no-longer being supported to try and force you to upgrade. What's the real reason why this upgrade is "free" you ask? This is quite simple... It gives Microsoft a way in which to force their users to have to use Windows Update, which is known for periodically including alleged "updates" that are really nothing more than a malicious script that collects information from where you have gone on the internet with Internet Explorer, and at the same time, clearing off software from your computer that Microsoft deems to be "unwanted" software. In most cases, the things that these updates go for are things like keygens, activation cracks, etc. This is part of the whole you will take the update, even if it breaks another program bullshit. Currently, Microsoft cannot force this upon their users because they would have to change the EULA post-installation, which under US law is totally NOT legal. So don't kid yourself.... Microsoft is only offering Windows 10 for free to users running Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 with the sole intention of trying to be able to force their proprietary bullshit down your throats, including the removal of anything from your computer that Microsoft doesn't think should be there, regardless of whether or not it is legitimate. If you do not already own a copy of a previous version of Windows, you are given the upgrade for free so that Microsoft can fish you into their trap to literally control your life and snoop around into where you've been and what you've done on the internet. This is largely in part because Steve Ballmer does NOT in any way, shape or form seem to have the same kind of business practices that Bill Gates did when he founded the company.

                Now.... The other reason why I say don't kid yourself about it being free is that if you're installing from scratch or you're converting back to Windows, you're screwed into paying the $149.95 USD just for the ability to have Windows 10, but only if you can be satisfied with the home version. If you're looking for the professional version, you're looking at a whopping $219.95. Also, there were at least 4 variations of previous Windows versions that I know of, however now there only seems to be 2 versions.... This brings into question a number of questions with respect to upgrade paths and whether or not you're actually able to upgrade from one version to another. These are all things that Microsoft does not explain, and trying to find such information on their website has only managed to infuriate me because their website seems to be just as complicated as their fucking OS itself.

                In short, whatever you do, DO NOT UPGRADE!!! These are only some of the reasons why I strongly recommend NOT using Windows 10. There are more reasons why you shouldn't, which are actually even scarier, however I am not at liberty to divulge the scarier reasons, which have not yet been made public knowledge..... All that I will say is I can promise you that you will be both disappointed by and infuriated by these reasons once they start to become public knowledge. Simply put, Windows 8 is a large part of the reason why I switched to Linux and refuse to ever look back.

                Whap The User
                The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage!

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                  Ashtom
                  last edited by

                  Great review. Thx for a little enlightenment, its pretty much what i thought. I might not have been that far from conspiracy after all.

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                  • MrMazdaM Offline
                    MrMazda Global Moderator
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                    Oh yes…. And did I mention that things like the command prompt and system services are almost impossible to find unless you know how to call them by their respective cmd.exe or services.msc names manually? This can make for removing certain viruses and other malware very difficult if not impossible for some users unless you happen to know the exact process name for some of the options that you need to use to rid a computer of such things?

                    Whap The User
                    The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage!

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                      cannonmc
                      last edited by

                      And another link for those trying to keep up 🙂

                      Everything You Need to Disable in Windows 10

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                        ItsNoby
                        last edited by

                        Keystrokes, Camera and Voice Ports Data – Is Windows 10 Really a Free Upgrade?

                        Insider build of Windows 10 make screenshots and send them to the server Microsoft.

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                          Ashtom
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                          Heres another thing. Forced auto updates go so far that they even turn ur machine on from hibernation, restart it to install the updates and then leave it turned on on the login screen without puttin it back to sleep. Dunno bout desktops but it happens on my lappie. Neat, isnt it?

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                          • MrMazdaM Offline
                            MrMazda Global Moderator
                            last edited by

                            I think that's more creepy than it is neat really lol

                            Whap The User
                            The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is press coverage!

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                              Ashtom
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                              Yea lol, it was sarcasm.  😉

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                                Ondin
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                                i updated and downgraded after because pc gots slow T-T i will wait came a udate to fix this …... memory, cpu and disc 99%

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                                  idklmao
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                                  Yes

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