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    • R Offline
      rothko
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      @cannonmc:

      So why are so many torrents uploaded without any screen grabs?  How can this happen?

      They probably aren't. They have probably been uploaded with a, perhaps inappropriate, picture which the Moderators have removed after someone has reported it. You can't expect the Moderators to then replace it with a decent picture.

      I can't help but feel that you are looking for rule-breakers or that you are unlucky. I too have been here for a while (even longer than my current details, which are public show) and I haven't seen this as the major problem that you have. I tend to just ignore torrents that don't explain what they are.

      You seem to want to punish every rule breaker.

      I log-on, I go to the first page just like anyone else and I look through the torrents on that page, again just like everyone else, I do no different.  During that 'scan' of the first page I regularly come across posts that have no snapshots, no descriptions, nonsense video titles and many were other members have left comments highlighting these issues direct.  That's it.  There is no hunting of any kind, I don't have to, they are there in full view.

      There is nothing here that I have written that would lead you to believe I want to "punish every rule breaker".  The only action I have suggested is those members who ignore PM's have their uploads suspend and repeat rule breakers could find themselves banned.  These rules already exist in many different forms on this and any other site.  You are bound by them as if everyone else.

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        Popper Global Moderator
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        @rothko:

        (…) During that 'scan' of the first page I regularly come across posts that have no snapshots, no descriptions, nonsense video titles and many were other members have left comments highlighting these issues direct.  That's it.  There is no hunting of any kind, I don't have to, they are there in full view.  (...)

        Comments won't get a staff attention, unless reported. Rather than make a comment about poor or wrong information, members should add comments with missing information or add pictures, and/or report the the torrent for wrong or misleading information (including pictures).

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          rothko
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          Agreed, all file names and descriptions should match the video however this is not the case and whenever I have reported it nothing changes.

          File names in a torrent's file list can't be changed without a new torrent.

          "Nothing changes" is meant in general, not with that particular torrent.

          During that 'scan' of the first page I regularly come across posts that have no snapshots, no descriptions, nonsense video titles and many were other members have left comments highlighting these issues direct.  That's it.  There is no hunting of any kind, I don't have to, they are there in full view.

          Comments won't get a staff attention, unless reported. Rather than make a comment about poor or wrong information, members should add comments with missing information or add pictures, and/or report the the torrent for wrong or misleading information (including pictures).

          But you said earlier improvement would "require more active staff" Members that leave comments regarding site enforced post quality probably feel they are informing the up-loader without reporting them to a mod.  I remember my first upload here were I didn't copy the file names onto the post description, a member left a comment about it and I corrected it as soon as I got the message, no mod involved at all and no need. When I do report them via the mods nothing happens and I guess its because:

          "We send them a request, but after that there isn't much we can do to force them to post images."

          I have to say I'm beginning to feel like I'm walking through mud here, way too much of an effort for me.  Having read through this whole conversation there has been nothing agreed on and no sign that there is even an issue here on GT.RU and that's fine, the site is not mine and I hold no responsibility for it.

          As I said before Poppers this is just my opinion and you can do with it what you will.

          Thanks again

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            LEVI
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            The only thing I can think of would be the first five or so uploads have to go through an approval process. I know it would cause a backlog at first having seen and been a part of it happening on another site where everything that was uploaded had to be pre-approved before it went out to the members, but it was well worth it. What went out to the members was a better quality and conformed to the rules. Then after the uploader is released from the process if they start to upload new items that do not conform to the rules that is when sanctions can come into play.

            For the approval process I am just talking about. Filenames, Torrent names, photos and descriptions. Just a very quick check. In no way would I want mods to check to make sure the photos do belong to the video being uploaded or that the torrent might be a duplicate. Just a quick 20 second check. If everything looks good approval it, if not reject the torrent with a pm saying it needs to be fixed or was deleted and the reason.

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              cannonmc
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              Didn't that used to happen here? Or am I thinking about that other site too?

              Given the staff are under pressure to keep up now, I wonder whether another job would be possible.

              I'm thinking it might be better for members to report non-conforming torrents. But then it is  often difficult to get members to communicate.

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              • LEVIL Offline
                LEVI
                last edited by

                @cannonmc:

                Didn't that used to happen here? Or am I thinking about that other site too?

                Given the staff are under pressure to keep up now, I wonder whether another job would be possible.

                I'm thinking it might be better for members to report non-conforming torrents. But then it is  often difficult to get members to communicate.

                I doubt we are thinking about the same site. Since the one I was a mod for and had to approve any member upload was an online game and we would get hundreds on submissions each day. Each one had to be looked over before it was released to the game.

                I just reported five or six newly uploaded torrents tonight for filename, description, category, torrent name. They were all from the same person, four of the torrents had the same name and the same description which didn't describe the torrent. "A Very hot Video" I think is what they used for the torrent name and description. It took me longer to report the torrents then it would have taken a mod to reject them. Heck most of the process can be automatic without even bringing up the detail page. Just need to show the mod the facts they need to look at on one page. They click accept or deny and check a reason. Clicking deny automatic sends a standard email with the reason checked and a 24 hour notice. Once the torrent is edited it goes back into the que. If it is not edited in 24 hours the system deletes it.

                Also remember the mods would not be checking all new torrents just the first five or so from each member until that member surpasses the approval process.

                Would it be more work? I have no idea. I wonder how many reports on torrents the mods handle each day and that number and work load should almost vanish.

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                  teri40
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                  Why not just attach a sign or a label to a torrent that says "reported for invalid screenshots" or "reported for wrong video" or "request for a file name change". I mean if people see that other users have tagged it as such then they'll know what's wrong with the torrent.

                  Some people comment on the torrent but not report it.

                  Some people report it but not comment.

                  Maybe a report should be an auto comment or something just so people know what's up and that other users are warned.

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                    Popper Global Moderator
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                    @__rothko__: I've said earlier "What you say here is of big concern for me, bigger than you will think from my above answers."

                    and

                    "For my part, I've to see how the internal processes can be improved, so that the new uploaders get helped to improve and those not learning get send to upload approval (earlier and systematically).

                    and we will require more active staff "

                    We have rather low minimum requirements defined by the rules (basically one good related picture and title/description not being wrong or misleading, aside special requirements for collections and LGTBQ themed movies) and it is really a concern that we fail to even enforce these.

                    Your topic is a nudge for me to put more focus on getting more active moderators and improving /streamlining processes. I ensure you it is and will be continued to be worked on. Only don't expect visible changes the next few days.

                    All members can really help in reporting not rule conform torrent presentations. What then will happen next is:

                    • A moderator will handle the report, remove wrong or misleading information (including pictures)
                    • The moderator might add information from the comments or supplied with the report
                    • Then give the uploader a PM to improve the presentation

                    The uploader will have full 7 days (this might be felt too long…) from the upload date, i.e. the time he's able to edit the torrent presentation, to improve it.

                    What happens after these 7 days isn't well defined. That has to be done, clearly. Here could help user comments on what the shared files are (rather than comments complaining about bad presentation) and members adding pictures. It isn't only an uploader issue, all members can help especially those who have downloaded the torrent's files despite the lacking presentation.

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                      cannonmc
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                      @cannonmc:

                      Didn't that used to happen here? [auto-approval]

                      I wasn't going ga-ga (well, I might be but on this my memory was OK)

                      Yesterday, while checking out a reply to another query I saw this pic on the member's post. So it was the case that you did have to earn approval for the first few posts you did.

                      I have no idea what happened to that.

                      autoapproval.JPG

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                        rothko
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                        Hilarious piss take - https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=d09a2f79d05321948898755eeac76087034c051c71f129f8

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                          rothko
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                          More hilarious screenshots:

                          https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=3344567355532a5d8898755eeac7608769a0339728ea6d4d

                          https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=b1b43bab77c457568898755eeac760877b558eb192390c8b

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                            Priest
                            last edited by

                            @rothko:

                            More hilarious screenshots:

                            https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=3344567355532a5d8898755eeac7608769a0339728ea6d4d

                            https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=b1b43bab77c457568898755eeac760877b558eb192390c8b

                            It does more good to report these than post them in the forums.

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                            • R Offline
                              rothko
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                              Several hours on many occasions.

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                                Popper Global Moderator
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                                Perhaps you would like to become moderator and reduce the time until a report got treated?

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                                  rothko
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                                  It was suggested to me a while ago but when I explained I would be suspending members uploads and accounts all the time for breaching the sites rules especially in regards to snap shots and bullshit file names the conversation came to a sudden end.  I think you know as well as I do that I wouldn't last 5 minutes as a mod on this site.

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                                    Priest
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                                    @rothko:

                                    It was suggested to me a while ago but when I explained I would be suspending members uploads and accounts all the time for breaching the sites rules especially in regards to snap shots and bullshit file names the conversation came to a sudden end.  I think you know as well as I do that I wouldn't last 5 minutes as a mod on this site.

                                    Ah, a man after my own heart. Although the files names don't bother me, the real problem are the photos.

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                                      rothko
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                                      Yet another piss take:

                                      https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=39115ac5c98194408898755eeac760870def43647ce0878a

                                      https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=3043fd337ad05c6f8898755eeac76087a703a72fa789bca7

                                      https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=74582f55a4017f1a8898755eeac76087d570187da653f1a3

                                      https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=90b65bb8622fbcae8898755eeac76087dca9fb605dc57d64

                                      https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=77e23806a77210818898755eeac7608712d72ae01fd2b167

                                      https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=f01b50dd30cc58928898755eeac76087cadfbcf4bc658d73

                                      https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=f01b50dd30cc58928898755eeac76087cadfbcf4bc658d73

                                      https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=00985598841a03668898755eeac760870ae68b6d6e85366c

                                      https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=18e876c8e38b6a528898755eeac760872bb0838a4df9dec6

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