Straight guys in gay porn; are the really straight?

[geo88mag]

They either trying to fool us (a staged situation or scene, which is often the case), or themselves (being so deep in the closet/denial), which is  pathetic or sad and dangerous (you decide)…

[phrere]

I think it's mixed, some are gay and just in denial, some are straight and just desperate for money, and some prefer sex with women but don't mind getting off with a guy.  I can get off on it just the same so I don't really care, but when it comes to Broke Straight Boys, I kind of hate how not into the sex some of the guys are.  If your going to be paid to have gay sex, at least try to look like your enjoying it at some point.  For the whole straight guy gets paid trope, I get that they should be apprehensive at the beginning, but it's not hot to me if he's not enjoying it halfway through.   :cheers:

[LEVI]

Now how do you know they are straight. Are you reading interviews, arranged by the studios, press releases, arranged by the studios.

The studios are there to make a fantasy for people to enjoy. Now let's admit that a gay man's fantasy is often having sex with a straight man.

Are there straight men doing gay porn. Sure. Are they really straight. Sure. You can't define if someone is gay by whom they sleep with. They only person that knows for sure if someone is gay is that person.

Remember being gay is not who you sleep with, but who you are attracted to.

[rsrchr]

Maybe their Sexual Orientation is Heterosexual, but for their line of work, they are willing to have intercourse with peope of the same sex, but that is just their Sexual Conduct  it's just their line of work, and we all know that most people's work don't align with their interest (it's a rare occurrence). As others say, it's mainly for the money, because maybe the pay is lucrative enough for them that they agree to do it (tbh, I think I would have sex with a woman if I will get paid enough). I mean, I think labels don't matter to them, so long as they themselves know their Sexual Orientation, and also as long as their partners are okay with it, then they have no problems.

But then again, maybe they are gay, and porn producers are preying on our fantasies. Like, seriously, I admit that if I could turn a straight guy gay, that would be such a power trip. That he is willing to be gay for me (and being gay isn't really all rainbows and sugar in our society), it's such a wonderful feeling (not that I've felt or done it  ;D). It just gives us hope that the hot straight guy we have a crush can could actually like us back. It's some powerful shit hahaha

Whatever the case, I just respect it. If they're straight, then kudos to them for being so open-minded about gay porn. And if they are gay, then kudos to them for giving us fuel to flame our fantasies  :cheers: but that's just me hahaha

[indybr05]

does it matter lol?

[groovedware]

Although my experience comes more from the sex industry as a whole rather than specifically porn I can assure you there most certainly are straight men who are only gay for the dollar.  Just as there are some who just identify as straight to collect a larger paycheque because of the allure of being 'the one' who will convert them or the thrill of having the unobtainable.  You will also find there are some straight guys who are very likely in denial and instead of identifying as gay have found being bought is the easiest way they can express their sexuality.  The rarest of the rare (or the even more difficult to detect) but still very much present and I would bet is just as possible in the porn industry is the truly heterosexual man who acts and claims to be gay for his client/audience.

Also for the truly backward I have to ask:  I identify as 100% all gay, all the way.  That being said, I have had penetrative sex with a woman as well various other forms of sexual play with many other women.  Does it only go one way, take it up the ass you must be gay, or is it that I am a latent heterosexul?  "Oh he's not really gay, he's been with women."  I have said it before & will be surprised by it every time but it just astounds me how unaccepting of sexual freedom some of 'you' people can be.  And by 'you' people I mean "the gays" because clearly I must not be gay, just very very anal.

[geo88mag]

It will never cease to astound me, how some people would consider me and others like me, narrow minded just because i don't accept the G4P lie. Is it because we ruin the whole "seducing a straight guy" fantasy (which, by the way i could never understand, i always considered it to be quite weird since, imo it is something that's either contrantctive or, and i apologize for the term, disgusting.I 'll expain myself if you like me to.) or they feel they are (or want to seem) more noble than the rest of us? You gotta love that in the name of "sexual freedom" the world managed to screw us over once more and some people don't even realize it (or they don't care). With the excuse of fulfilling some people's fantasy of seducing a straight guy they manage to promote the message that you can have as much sex with guys as you like but, at the end of the day you better return to your girlfriend/wife and kids and keep identify yourself as straight since its the only right and viable way for you to live your life and being gay/bi isn't.I totally agree that your sexuality is not determined by whom you're having sex with but, by whom you want to have sex with instead. And that's the point.These guys pursue a career in gay porn indusrty.It is something they want to do again and again. I consider the arguement "they do it for the money" just as solid as arguements like "a hole is a hole", "i was so horny" and many more (which i find ridiculous and offensive to real straight guys).If we actually believe thet money is enough of a motive for a straight guy to have sex with another guy then the straight porn industry wouldn't have a single guy left since everyone would rather prefer to work as a gay performer. We try to educate others that being gay is normal but i think we need to realize it ourselves first and stop accepting such examples as legit or desirable.

[parsek]

a straight guy is straight and stop! if he goes with men he does gay, if he goes with both men or women he is bisex, it doesnt matter if he preferes sex with women than men cuz he will always be bisex.
I've never known a gay having sex with women, never! if he does he is bisex money or not!
The guy who said 'I'm straight but I go with men for money..' then he is bisex.
If you are straight you also dislike sex with men, if you really do as gay as well you also dislike sex with women!
I've read, 'go with men or women it's all up to you'. so let me understand…after many years that you know that you are gay you are saying that be gay is just a mental condition?
NO WAY! It's just fantasy because you are attracted by straight men more than gays, that's all!

[wohdin]

Haha, no.

And even for those few out there who DO identify as "straight", they're at the very least bi-curious. The word "straight" is basically just a marketing gimmick.

[groovedware]

@geo88mag:

It will never cease to astound me, how some people would consider me and others like me, narrow minded just because i don't accept the G4P lie. Is it because we ruin the whole "seducing a straight guy" fantasy (which, by the way i could never understand, i always considered it to be quite weird since, imo it is something that's either contrantctive or, and i apologize for the term, disgusting.I 'll expain myself if you like me to.) or they feel they are (or want to seem) more noble than the rest of us? You gotta love that in the name of "sexual freedom" the world managed to screw us over once more and some people don't even realize it (or they don't care). With the excuse of fulfilling some people's fantasy of seducing a straight guy they manage to promote the message that you can have as much sex with guys as you like but, at the end of the day you better return to your girlfriend/wife and kids and keep identify yourself as straight since its the only right and viable way for you to live your life and being gay/bi isn't.I totally agree that your sexuality is not determined by whom you're having sex with but, by whom you want to have sex with instead. And that's the point.These guys pursue a career in gay porn indusrty.It is something they want to do again and again. I consider the arguement "they do it for the money" just as solid as arguements like "a hole is a hole", "i was so horny" and many more (which i find ridiculous and offensive to real straight guys).If we actually believe thet money is enough of a motive for a straight guy to have sex with another guy then the straight porn industry wouldn't have a single guy left since everyone would rather prefer to work as a gay performer. We try to educate others that being gay is normal but i think we need to realize it ourselves first and stop accepting such examples as legit or desirable.

G4P lie.  This one is new on me but oddly enough if you hold the shift key down for all of it it comes out looking like this G$P!

[groovedware]

@parsek:

a straight guy is straight and stop! if he goes with men he does gay, if he goes with both men or women he is bisex, it doesnt matter if he preferes sex with women than men cuz he will always be bisex.
I've never known a gay having sex with women, never! if he does he is bisex money or not!
The guy who said 'I'm straight but I go with men for money..' then he is bisex.
If you are straight you also dislike sex with men, if you really do as gay as well you also dislike sex with women!
I've read, 'go with men or women it's all up to you'. so let me understand…after many years that you know that you are gay you are saying that be gay is just a mental condition?
NO WAY! It's just fantasy because you are attracted by straight men more than gays, that's all!

So I am very confused now, I have never lived one moment of my life as heterosexual, nor any time in the closet.  I was gay from birth, my mother said she knew when I was 5.  Gay gay freaking GAY but here it is, you are telling me because I have had sex with women I am bisexual?  A pox upon me.  Wash it out.  No no no I don't want that label.  Yuck it's making my skin itch just thinking of it.

[groovedware]

@wohdin:

Haha, no.

And even for those few out there who DO identify as "straight", they're at the very least bi-curious. The word "straight" is basically just a marketing gimmick.

That is folks the unequivocal truth, straight is just a marketing gimmick, everyone is gay, he's just not into YOU!

[geo88mag]

@groovedware:

@wohdin:

Haha, no.

And even for those few out there who DO identify as "straight", they're at the very least bi-curious. The word "straight" is basically just a marketing gimmick.

That is folks the unequivocal truth, straight is just a marketing gimmick, everyone is gay, he's just not into YOU!

Again: We're talking about guys who pursue a career in gay porn industry. Guys who want to have sex with other men again and again and again. You know what? if you ever decide to question the sexuality of guys who perform in straight porn, maybe then, we can disquss it further (Oh! I'm sorry, i forgot!No one would ever dare to question the "normality" of those fine straight men.After all, since they're having sex with women, they must be straight, right? Of course, only when it comes to gay porn we actually must accept that the guys who perform, are "normal" straight men that are getting payed to pleasure us perverts, right?). If you want a reason for that concept (Straight for Pay) i can come up with one, probably just as obscure as the reasons for the whole "Gay for Pay" thing. You know…maybe to convince the guys who fantasize about seducing a straight guy that those men are actually straight (i think that's already a thing) or maybe, to satisfy some straight women's fantasy of seducing a gay guy (believe it or not, just like there are gay guys who find the idea of having sex with a straight guy, appealing, there are straight women who find the idea of having sex with a gay guy, just as much). Ofcourse that would be quite homophobic, you know? Promoting the idea that being gay is something that can be overcome and surpressed when you find the "right" woman, like the idea that no matter how much sex you have with guys, you should never and under any circumstances allow yourself to be identified as a gay/bi guy.So basically if you 're willing, for whatever reason, to accept and promote that guys who have sex with other men, are straight, then i 'm just as wiling to accept and promote that every guy (even the ones that perform in straight porn) is gay. See how much fun that logic can be?

[danijelr15]

@geo88mag:

Again: We're talking about guys who pursue a career in gay porn industry. Guys who want to have sex with other men again and again and again. You know what? if you ever decide to question the sexuality of guys who perform in straight porn, maybe then, we can disquss it further (Oh! I'm sorry, i forgot!No one would ever dare to question the "normality" of those fine straight men.After all, since they're having sex with women, they must be straight, right? Of course, only when it comes to gay porn we actually must accept that the guys who perform, are "normal" straight men that are getting payed to pleasure us perverts, right?). If you want a reason for that concept (Straight for Pay) i can come up with one, probably just as obscure as the reasons for the whole "Gay for Pay" thing. You know…maybe to convince the guys who fantasize about seducing a straight guy that those men are actually straight (i think that's already a thing) or maybe, to satisfy some straight women's fantasy of seducing a gay guy (believe it or not, just like there are gay guys who find the idea of having sex with a straight guy, appealing, there are straight women who find the idea of having sex with a gay guy, just as much). Ofcourse that would be quite homophobic, you know? Promoting the idea that being gay is something that can be overcome and surpressed when you find the "right" woman, like the idea that no matter how much sex you have with guys, you should never and under any circumstances allow yourself to be identified as a gay/bi guy.So basically if you 're willing, for whatever reason, to accept and promote that guys who have sex with other men, are straight, then i 'm just as wiling to accept and promote that every guy (even the ones that perform in straight porn) is gay. See how much fun that logic can be?

Beautifully said. Thank you for showing some reason in these forums. :urock:

[groovedware]

@geo88mag:

@groovedware:

@wohdin:

Haha, no.

And even for those few out there who DO identify as "straight", they're at the very least bi-curious. The word "straight" is basically just a marketing gimmick.

That is folks the unequivocal truth, straight is just a marketing gimmick, everyone is gay, he's just not into YOU!

Again: We're talking about guys who pursue a career in gay porn industry. Guys who want to have sex with other men again and again and again. You know what? if you ever decide to question the sexuality of guys who perform in straight porn, maybe then, we can disquss it further (Oh! I'm sorry, i forgot!No one would ever dare to question the "normality" of those fine straight men.After all, since they're having sex with women, they must be straight, right? Of course, only when it comes to gay porn we actually must accept that the guys who perform, are "normal" straight men that are getting payed to pleasure us perverts, right?). If you want a reason for that concept (Straight for Pay) i can come up with one, probably just as obscure as the reasons for the whole "Gay for Pay" thing. You know…maybe to convince the guys who fantasize about seducing a straight guy that those men are actually straight (i think that's already a thing) or maybe, to satisfy some straight women's fantasy of seducing a gay guy (believe it or not, just like there are gay guys who find the idea of having sex with a straight guy, appealing, there are straight women who find the idea of having sex with a gay guy, just as much). Ofcourse that would be quite homophobic, you know? Promoting the idea that being gay is something that can be overcome and surpressed when you find the "right" woman, like the idea that no matter how much sex you have with guys, you should never and under any circumstances allow yourself to be identified as a gay/bi guy.So basically if you 're willing, for whatever reason, to accept and promote that guys who have sex with other men, are straight, then i 'm just as wiling to accept and promote that every guy (even the ones that perform in straight porn) is gay. See how much fun that logic can be?

TL:DR or I just figured it was a waste of my time after you accused me of assuming guys in str8 porn are normal.  Are you for real?  I have a gay friend who only escorts for women, do you think ya i'm sorry i don't really care what you think.  Downvote me to the ends of the earth but this is just ignorant blather at this point.  I won't be a part of your assumptions.

[groovedware]

@danijelr15:

@geo88mag:

Again: We're talking about guys who pursue a career in gay porn industry. Guys who want to have sex with other men again and again and again. You know what? if you ever decide to question the sexuality of guys who perform in straight porn, maybe then, we can disquss it further (Oh! I'm sorry, i forgot!No one would ever dare to question the "normality" of those fine straight men.After all, since they're having sex with women, they must be straight, right? Of course, only when it comes to gay porn we actually must accept that the guys who perform, are "normal" straight men that are getting payed to pleasure us perverts, right?). If you want a reason for that concept (Straight for Pay) i can come up with one, probably just as obscure as the reasons for the whole "Gay for Pay" thing. You know…maybe to convince the guys who fantasize about seducing a straight guy that those men are actually straight (i think that's already a thing) or maybe, to satisfy some straight women's fantasy of seducing a gay guy (believe it or not, just like there are gay guys who find the idea of having sex with a straight guy, appealing, there are straight women who find the idea of having sex with a gay guy, just as much). Ofcourse that would be quite homophobic, you know? Promoting the idea that being gay is something that can be overcome and surpressed when you find the "right" woman, like the idea that no matter how much sex you have with guys, you should never and under any circumstances allow yourself to be identified as a gay/bi guy.So basically if you 're willing, for whatever reason, to accept and promote that guys who have sex with other men, are straight, then i 'm just as wiling to accept and promote that every guy (even the ones that perform in straight porn) is gay. See how much fun that logic can be?

Beautifully said. Thank you for showing some reason in these forums. :urock:

And this folks is why I often just avoid the forums.  High praise for what?  Reason?  It's like Tracy said "Give me one reason to stay here".  Can I turn off notifactions for this nonsense or do I have to just ignore it?

[geo88mag]

@groovedware:

@geo88mag:

@groovedware:

@wohdin:

Haha, no.

And even for those few out there who DO identify as "straight", they're at the very least bi-curious. The word "straight" is basically just a marketing gimmick.

That is folks the unequivocal truth, straight is just a marketing gimmick, everyone is gay, he's just not into YOU!

Again: We're talking about guys who pursue a career in gay porn industry. Guys who want to have sex with other men again and again and again. You know what? if you ever decide to question the sexuality of guys who perform in straight porn, maybe then, we can disquss it further (Oh! I'm sorry, i forgot!No one would ever dare to question the "normality" of those fine straight men.After all, since they're having sex with women, they must be straight, right? Of course, only when it comes to gay porn we actually must accept that the guys who perform, are "normal" straight men that are getting payed to pleasure us perverts, right?). If you want a reason for that concept (Straight for Pay) i can come up with one, probably just as obscure as the reasons for the whole "Gay for Pay" thing. You know…maybe to convince the guys who fantasize about seducing a straight guy that those men are actually straight (i think that's already a thing) or maybe, to satisfy some straight women's fantasy of seducing a gay guy (believe it or not, just like there are gay guys who find the idea of having sex with a straight guy, appealing, there are straight women who find the idea of having sex with a gay guy, just as much). Ofcourse that would be quite homophobic, you know? Promoting the idea that being gay is something that can be overcome and surpressed when you find the "right" woman, like the idea that no matter how much sex you have with guys, you should never and under any circumstances allow yourself to be identified as a gay/bi guy.So basically if you 're willing, for whatever reason, to accept and promote that guys who have sex with other men, are straight, then i 'm just as wiling to accept and promote that every guy (even the ones that perform in straight porn) is gay. See how much fun that logic can be?

TL:DR or I just figured it was a waste of my time after you accused me of assuming guys in str8 porn are normal.  Are you for real?  I have a gay friend who only escorts for women, do you think ya i'm sorry i don't really care what you think.  Downvote me to the ends of the earth but this is just ignorant blather at this point.  I won't be a part of your assumptions.

My friend, i didn't accuse you of anything (but apparently you have a reason to believe i did-not my problem), i just stated the obvious: no one would ever question the sexuality of a guy who perfofms in straight porn, this happens only in gay porn, simple as that.How convinient that you know a gay guy who escorts only for women (you know there's nothing wrong with being bi).But as you said you don't care about my opinion (good for you) and i'm starting to lose any interest in yours.I am alot of things, ignorant is not one of them. I just happen to possess a mind that's liberated from stereotypes and fantasies of the past century. Anyway, just keep believing what you wish to believe, as long as you don't harm an innocent being,it makes little difference to me…

[geo88mag]

@groovedware:

@danijelr15:

@geo88mag:

Again: We're talking about guys who pursue a career in gay porn industry. Guys who want to have sex with other men again and again and again. You know what? if you ever decide to question the sexuality of guys who perform in straight porn, maybe then, we can disquss it further (Oh! I'm sorry, i forgot!No one would ever dare to question the "normality" of those fine straight men.After all, since they're having sex with women, they must be straight, right? Of course, only when it comes to gay porn we actually must accept that the guys who perform, are "normal" straight men that are getting payed to pleasure us perverts, right?). If you want a reason for that concept (Straight for Pay) i can come up with one, probably just as obscure as the reasons for the whole "Gay for Pay" thing. You know…maybe to convince the guys who fantasize about seducing a straight guy that those men are actually straight (i think that's already a thing) or maybe, to satisfy some straight women's fantasy of seducing a gay guy (believe it or not, just like there are gay guys who find the idea of having sex with a straight guy, appealing, there are straight women who find the idea of having sex with a gay guy, just as much). Ofcourse that would be quite homophobic, you know? Promoting the idea that being gay is something that can be overcome and surpressed when you find the "right" woman, like the idea that no matter how much sex you have with guys, you should never and under any circumstances allow yourself to be identified as a gay/bi guy.So basically if you 're willing, for whatever reason, to accept and promote that guys who have sex with other men, are straight, then i 'm just as wiling to accept and promote that every guy (even the ones that perform in straight porn) is gay. See how much fun that logic can be?

Beautifully said. Thank you for showing some reason in these forums. :urock:

And this folks is why I often just avoid the forums.  High praise for what?  Reason?  It's like Tracy said "Give me one reason to stay here".  Can I turn off notifactions for this nonsense or do I have to just ignore it?

It seems that anyone's opinion that doesn't agree with your point of view, you consider it useless. Whatever, have a nice day.

[hatrick]

This is definitely a great discussion. I think you all have a point. But I believe there are straight guys who are not afraid of sex with men (even gay men) as much as gay guys are afraid of sex with women. Maybe it´s just their attitude of being able to overcome any obstacle that not as many gay people have (from my point of view). Also there was this article on reddit where supposedly a straight guy was sleeping with this older gay guy just for the money (he have him tons of money and they were both okay with that). He answered many related questions honestly. Also, my straight friend (straight?) who likes girls (obviously from his Tinder and Badoo behavior) said that if I was super rich, he would absolutely want to date me (can you imagine how depressed I was after that because I like him so much haha).

[TheNewt]

Of course they're not heterosexual/straight.

They're either bisexual or gay; but it's just marketing based on homophobia/biphobia or the idea that bi and gay men want to have sex with hetero/straight men or that we never got over lusting after a hetero guy in our lives who we can't have.  But you have some gay and bi men who have this fantasy, or I have met some who need it and told me how it's their #1 fantasy to have sex with a real hetero/straight guy.

But this marketing has been going on for decades.  In reality if a guy is straight/hetero he's not going to do a gay or bisexual porn where he has sex with a guy.  Also, contrary to the myth that people believe you do not make that much money by doing porn, and you do not necessarily make more money by doing gay or bisexual porn either.