Obesity is illegal in Japan!

nordicblue

It is enforced by the employers, not the government, which gave the employers the authority to do so.

MrMazda

That's insane… More insane than the fact that ALL McDonald's in the USA as of January 1, 2015 require that passengers be weighed on a scale to determine if they're "obease" enough to be refused service.

nordicblue

@MrMazda:

That's insane… More insane than the fact that ALL McDonald's in the USA as of January 1, 2015 require that passengers be weighed on a scale to determine if they're "obease" enough to be refused service.

What is insane about that? McDonald's is taking some social responsibility for their part in causing obesity. Secondly, consider your source. Have you been to a McDonald's and seen this happen? I have been to a McDonald's in California and they did not do this.

Bisougarou

@MrMazda:

That's insane… More insane than the fact that ALL McDonald's in the USA as of January 1, 2015 require that passengers be weighed on a scale to determine if they're "obease" enough to be refused service.

No it is not. What you heard of it surely is but the truth isn't. This law has been created to force large business groups to send their employees on medical examination. Which isn't useful only to discover if you're obease but also to do a check-up with a medical expert.

The consequences of the law are : 1° Employees that don't force their workers to go are being charged with a heavy penalty (which is pretty much like every other law )

2° People that shows sings of obeasity are to be listed for further examinations and advices. Meaning that a dietician will explains how/why being over-heighted can be really bad and what are to be changed in your life if you want to live longer.

Sincerely, I don't see what's bad in all that

nordicblue

I don't see anything wrong with it either.

MrMazda

@Bisougarou:

The consequences of the law are : 1° Employees that don't force their workers to go are being charged with a heavy penalty (which is pretty much like every other law )

2° People that shows sings of obeasity are to be listed for further examinations and advices. Meaning that a dietician will explains how/why being over-heighted can be really bad and what are to be changed in your life if you want to live longer.

Sincerely, I don't see what's bad in all that

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you must, but the "issue" so to speak that I see there is that it sounds like a classic case of trying to milk the hands of the medical system. I guess there are some areas that do not believe in a person's right to refuse services and/or treatment. Not to mention it also brings the question of who ends up paying the bills for these visits? Is there some sort of universal medical coverage in Japan, or is it funded by either the employers or the person being sent directly?

It's just really hard to wrap my brain around any other way of looking at such a law.

nordicblue

Japan has a national health care system. If you allow the problem (obesity) to fester, it will actually cost more because those obese people will have more health issues, spreading an even greater cost across decent, hard working and healthy individuals who do not want to pay for a gluttonous person. By requiring them to address the problem proactively, it saves money and sets a precedent for people to take care of themselves. Even if they have a disease that makes them obese, it is even more of a reason to go to the doctor. If you have a disease, then it is responsible to treat it and take care of it. Nobody should have the right to take more at the expense of others. If you want to do something that does not effect others, then that is fine.

Bisougarou

@MrMazda:

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you must, but the "issue" so to speak that I see there is that it sounds like a classic case of trying to milk the hands of the medical system. I guess there are some areas that do not believe in a person's right to refuse services and/or treatment. Not to mention it also brings the question of who ends up paying the bills for these visits? Is there some sort of universal medical coverage in Japan, or is it funded by either the employers or the person being sent directly?

It's just really hard to wrap my brain around any other way of looking at such a law.

It's true indeed that each and everyone of us have the right's not to be treated or to go to a doctor (I, myself, am not a doctor person and prefer to take the carrot to keep him away ;D ) but this law has been made after seeing the consequences that the work's stress has over almost all the employees in Japan.

Obesity is just like… A red flag. It's what alarms the autority and what they'll use to warn people but basically they intend to fight all bad consequences that goes with work! Japan is still one of the countries where people go harakiri over work $:-\$ and they're like in top 3 if not first...

I guess they're revoking a basic right to fight obesity and all the shit that goes with stress... I really think it's a good thing but I see why it could bother someone ^^

For the bills, if treatment/monitoring is needed there is a part for the company and the other part for the health care system.

nordicblue

When your problem becomes somebody else's problem as well, then that person looses the right to decline medical help. It is now a group problem and the group now has a say in your problem.

johns3

I guess that will make it clear that I'll never find my hot chub in Japan… Lol
Well regardless Japan is contaminated from the radioactive so not interested whatever they do or say.

Matie

Yes the sport of sumo might be in serious trouble. Also rather than checking customers for obesity, customers should be able to check McDonald's products for food content.

pittstop17

How? :afr:

scramer

Clickbaiting title or OP doesn't know what illegal means