Breaking news: Politicians manipulate information literally all the fucking time. ::)

@rawr: They're never going to … Trump completely broke the political system in the US. Granted, it was broken before, but now it's just going to seesaw every election cycle. I firmly believe that there's going to be a very bad day ahead for conservatives in 2018. I hate to say this, but if the democrats ever gain control of the house and senate, they're going to employ every tactic the republicans used and it's going to be a decade before it gets sorted out. Trump is very bad for the future political situation in this country... If he can't turn his presidency around, then he might as well give the government to the democrats. The voter suppression tactics will not work twice. The democrats thought they had the election won easily, (I thought they did too), but they're seriously pissed off now... And nothing Donald is doing is helping... Not sure what you mean as far as Trump breaking the political system. He's the first one in a long time that's brought any change to politics. He's the first non-military guy to become president that wasn't a career politician before winning the White House. In that manner, you're correct, Trump has completely broken the political system…and deservedly so. He's a breath of fresh air to a system that had become far too set in its ways. Trump's got the Beltway crowd going nuts with every one of his tweets, and he's got the media twisting and spinning every syllable that comes out his mouth. I'm loving everything he's doing so far. He distracts the media and his political enemies with a few bad words on twitter, and while they're busy chasing their tails with Nordstrom's and Russians, he's signing executive orders that are freezing federal hiring and cracking down on illegals. He's playing them like a master. As for the Democrats employing tactics...what tactics are the Republicans using? The Republicans have been putting up with the Democrat's obstruction in the senate with regards to cabinet confirmations. They haven't eliminated the filibuster rule to ram the confirmations through with 51 votes. We'll see what kind of tactics they use with Gorsuch during his hearings. The way things look right now, 2018 will only solidify the Republicans control because there are so many Democrat senate seats up for reelection that year, with a few in states that Trump carried in November. The voter suppression won't work again?? What does that even mean? The Democrats love to crow that Hillary won the popular vote, so what votes were suppressed? To top it all off, Trump hit it out of the park tonight with his speech, so that should have the media cranking up production of hit pieces for the rest of the week. Should be fun   

If you go back, on a national level, Democrats were critical of Romney-care.

@Commander88: @aadam101: kaworun83, you are 100% correct.  So called President Trump has made people believe it's ok to say whatever they want and behave in any way they want.  America is quickly going to devolve into a third world nation. Well, I am pretty sure that with Killary Klingon world would quickly develop into WWIII. We live in reality, not an alternative world. SHE DID NOT WIN. HE DID. He is the president which means he's going to be held accountable. Using the Hillary would be worse excuse is tired, lame and kills any argument on the spot. There is no Hillary anymore, she is a private citizen with absolutely no power; therefore, any reference to what "would have, could have," is alternative reality and weakens arguments when mentioned.

Yes, it is a real gun club. My partner isn't in that club but he is a member of another gun club with different races. He knows a few members in the national African-American gun club mentioned in that article. The Second Amendment is very, very important to a lot of us. We have the right to defend ourselves, especially those of us living in the South. Our Second Amendment right is one of the few things keeping many, many dark historical wrongs from coming back to haunt us today.

@raphjd: If you have paid attention, the poster I responded to is an anti-white racist. And Mugabe's husband is a dictator. Racism as defined by Merriam-Webster: (1) - a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race; (2) - a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles, a political or social system founded on racism; and (3) - racial prejudice or discrimination. When have I stated that black people are superior to white people on this forum? Where have I advocated for a system that will demonize white people just for being white? When have I said on here that ALL white people are racists? If you cannot point to any of my statements on here that falls into any of those categories, then your personal attack on me is FALSE. I have noticed you on thread after thread demonizing black people no matter what the situation is. I DO NOT DO THAT. I demonize actual people like #45 or Steve Bannon or Jeff Sessions, NOT THE ENTIRE WHITE POPULATION OF THIS COUNTRY. I have noticed you attribute isolated incidents committed by one black person or a handful of black people to an entire race of people; whereas I have based my arguments on the EFFECTS of historical factual incidents that have occurred within this country because I truly believe some incidents are directly or slightly indirectly tied to the very real system of oppression that was, and in some instances still is, in place. I have stated many, many times that I do not hold the belief that black people are superior to white people or that there should be a system set up to discriminate against white people. I have stated that I believe it is indeed a fact that a black person can be racially prejudice against white people and that it can indeed cause harm even if it is not backed by a power system in America. I am not the one that is racist on here. You put words in my mouth by saying I claimed or your racism led you to believe I claimed, "Trump is evil because he's white, Mugabe is great because she's black." I NEVER SAID THAT. I NEVER EVEN SAID SHE WAS GREAT. I actually said, "I would rather her be our president in America than Mr. Agent Orange to be honest. She's still more competent than he'd ever be." THAT IS AN INSULT TO #45, NOT TO WHITE PEOPLE. It is an INSULT, not a form of PRAISE to say Grace Mugabe is somehow great because she is black; just that she has a higher competency level than #45. All of your arguments against me are now invalid because you have proven yourself incapable of even having a real discussion with FACTS, historical or current.

@koliko6: Is Mexico that horrible that he would rather kill himself than go back? If he wanted to come to America so bad, he should have followed the law and immigrated LEGALLY like I did. But, you can't expect democrats to follow the laws. Err…is not horrible per se (otherwise, all mexicans would be crossing the border), it's just that there's so much corruption, insecurity and a true lack of opportunities for social mobility. Most illegals belong to the lower class echelons in Mexico so they don't even have a high level of education, a great number are farmhands that search for work since agriculture here is pretty death (News Flash: Even though Mexico's diet is based on corn, the country fails to produce the amount it needs, it imports the rest from the US)  if they can't find a job in the fields they can make a living with little jobs or other.  For example, a waiter in USA, can eke out a decent living, while that is impossible in Mexico. And there's also a disdain towards returned migrants.  For some mexicans, those who migrated to USA have become 'gringos' and behave snobby and uptight towards those who remained in the country. (Some do actually, but that doesn't mean all mexicans living in the USA act like that)

@koliko6: Very true, but you have to understand the Democrat party is throwing a childish tantrum over illegal being deported because that is THEIR VOTER BASE. Democrats will frame this as a heartfelt emotional plea, and pull heart strings, but all Democrats are really upset about is their voters being deported. Illegal immigrants are not allowed to vote. You're parroting an alt-right lie. Edit: I can see why people on this forum think I'm a liberal. No sorry, facts are facts. Some of you guys just believe things without putting any effort into evaluating their truthfulness. These were lies told by Trump and the alt right to rile people up and get them motivated to vote. Which obviously worked, but at some point, you need to come back to reality.

@koliko6: Are we talking about the same media that kept pushing the lie of "hands up don't shoot"? Which was complete FAKE NEWS which led to rioting and burning down millions of dollars worth of property and people getting hurt? Yeah, the media is the enemy. The media wants to divide Americans because it gives them good ratings. You're neglecting to mention that your statement is only true if you reorder the events. The media was reporting the information they had, which was indeed, inaccurate. Nobody knew that the shooting was justified until after the Justice Department intervened. You're making it sound like over a hundred media outlets conspired to fabricate a story because of "good ratings." It wasn't the media that lied and there are plenty of stories in the media admitting that the information they had was inconsistent with reality. _"He shot again, and once my friend felt that shot, he turned around and put his hands in the air, and he started to get down," Johnson said. "But the officer still approached with his weapon drawn and fired several more shots." "We wasn't causing harm to nobody," Johnson told the television station. "We had no weapons on us at all."_ http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/11/fbi-opens-investigation-into-fatal-shooting-unarmed-black-teenager-in-suburban.html

Bob Woodward said it best yesterday. The mainstream media get their hair on fire about every fake story that comes along no matter how trivial it is. If and when they actually come up with a real story, no one will listen or care. As he said, the media have done this to themselves. The only people that attend this event are the media and lobbyists. Both are enemies of Trump and his agenda, so why bother?

The states rights issue within this administration is confusing at best.  They continue to tout this BS about selling insurance across state lines.  States have rights and many don't want to operate this way.  I live in MA and this would be a disaster for my state.

@royalcrown89: Just looked it up and yep, that's what happened sadly. Looks like MAGA and President Agent Orange are actually motivating crazies to commit murder against fellow American citizens. http://time.com/4681450/kansas-gunman-shooting-race-crime/ When the leader of your country can't separate fantasy from reality, you have to know, it will just get worse.

Sigh…the annoying thing is how fast people post this crap (both the right and the left) without fact checking. It makes it really hard to take them serious afterwards.

Sweden is becoming a failed state where politicians are more concerned with selling a false image of the country to the world than actually fixing the structural problems the country is facing, from integration of foreigners to the rise of white supremacists. Sweden has the highest rape rate in Europe. You would think they would be very concerned and working to protect the victims, when in reality they are more concerned with denying statistical evidence. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

@Eridanos: UK voted (well most people in the UK voted) to leave the European Union.  It was the mayority's will so Theresa May has to respect that. The funny thing I find is that all those separatists politicians didn't have the balls to take the mantle in this cumbersome process. Trump is a sign of the polarization in the USA, it also shows how the Left failed to care for American society as a whole. Regarding both topics, considering UK's circumstances, I'd rather have all those who oppose the country to have a trade agreement with USA just because Trump is a loudmouth, misogynistic and whatever asshole, to reconsider.  UK will need many trade agreements and USA is just such a ripe market…America consumes and wastes like no other country. That's the reason Mexico won't give up relationships with USA so easily...an increase of 25% exports to USA generates more income that a 50% increase in our exports with the rest of Latin America (yes, building trade agreements with other countries as a safety net is the ideal and most sensible thing to do, but the American market is just too voracious and good to just leave without trying) Precisely. What's happening in the West is a result of decades of politicians not listening to their constituents. People wouldn't become so extreme if politicians didn't turn everything into elitism, nepotism, corruption, born into power.

LOL, gotta love the dictionary fallacy. The faact that black people can do "white people go around" and force white students to walk through a creek to get to class while police stand around and do nothing shows that non whites have the privilege at least at Berkeley.    Blocking roads and preventing ambulances to get through while chanting about killing cops shows non whites have privilege.  Shouting in the face of a US Senator who's running for President, because you think you are more important than he is, shows non white privilege.  Hijacking every event shows non white privilege. You keep claiming that I deny ALL accounts of racism.  Try showing proof of this BS claim.  I admit to actual racist things, not made up "everything is racist" and "all crackers are the devil" crap.  You are nothing ridiculous racist.

@aadam101: I think todays press conference is going to go down in history as the beginning of the end for America. If you can stomach it, watching the entire press conference is a mind-boggling experience: https://www.c-span.org/video/?424148-1/president-trump-holds-news-conference

@aadam101: She has been banned from Morning Joe now too.  I haven't seen her on TV much this week.  I would hope the Trump administration is smart enough to never let Stephen Miller on TV again. And get who? Alex Jones? Edit: I was going to say, at some point the Republicans might want to reconsider their pro assault rifle stance. You know, liberals can buy them too … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzeTZSEesXY

@grover59: The truly wealthy (the 1%) don't know what work is other than a game of competitive tennis and tire easily Oh, come on now, be fair… There's 1%'ers who started out in their garage... Most American Billionaires are self made... https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/269593 Also, the ability to "Go Play Tennis" is an important concept in big business called "Sustainability." If you own a company and you employee 10,000 people, you run the show and there's no board/upper management level, and you unfortunately die. Now what? 10,000 people lose their jobs? It's critically important that the ownership and leadership are not the weakest links… Also, for many people who do end up getting wealthy, at some point in their journey, they've made their dreams reality, what are they suppose to do? Fire everybody and call it a day? So they built a company, they can't go play golf when they want to?...