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      frostycab @john32123666
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      I'm not going to pretend that I're read this whole thread because most of it is far beyond my understanding, but it does seem like these conversions are taking up a lot of my feed. The problem for me is that if I find one that looks interesting I now need to go and check my existing library to see if I already have the video, as there's little to be gained from downloading another copy in a different format. Every one of my downloads goes straight into Handbrake and reduced to 720p before I even look at them anyway.

      The upsurge in these offerings has got me hoping that @joker might consider adding the ability to create a custom blacklist of seach terms so that we can filter certain terms out by default. It would help with being able to ignore conversions like this, as well as studios, performers or tags that we're just not interested in seeing.

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        john32123666
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        The only issue having here is that why .mp4 container over .mkv container aka matroska is consider duplicates of the same size when it comes to size, while .avi, quicktime, etc .. are not ...
        Thats what kevin want to know ...

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          Kevin4fm @frostycab
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          @frostycab Yeah. I was optimistic when @ianfontinell mentioned having created a search filter to automatically exclude them, but the only version I've been able to identify is a "Saved Search", which needs reapplying every time, even if it's saved. I tried that for a bit, but it's more of a pain than having to visually skip over these torrents when browsing a list.

          Ideally, it would be great to be able to block uploads by a specific individual. I'm sure this could be done without needing to reveal to the blocker the actual name of the member being blocked.

          Alternatively, perhaps being able to add a facility to automatically mark as "Hidden" either by a Title word search or by (Anonymous) user. Or, perhaps, even both.

          Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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            ianfontinell @frostycab
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            @frostycab agreed, a blacklist is a lot more useful than the option to hide torrents one by one. i resorted to a custom userscript that does the job and is easy to handle.

            Once again I'd like to remind everyone that it's not mandatory that you speak.

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              Kevin4fm @john32123666
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              @john32123666 Absolutely agree. That's why my two bones of contention are clarity and consistency.

              Clarity: If the powers that be have decided .mkv and .mp4 are the same, fine(ish). Just make it clear within the published rules covering duplicates rather than letting someone go through the work of creating a torrent - within the published rules - then nuking it, or requiring a huge amount of work to find it buried in a thread like this. Publishing a reference point should also lead to consistency. Two of my nuked torrents were not duplicates, judged by what has been said here, yet they WERE nuked as duplicates and remained so, even after I queried this.

              Consistency: Primarily out of curiosity, as you say, if .mp4 is considered the same as ,mkv, then why isn't .avi, .wmv, etc.?

              If the idea is to stop the site getting bogged down with multiple torrents with, essentially, the same files, perhaps file type shouldn't even be a differentiator. There are a plethora of file converter apps - many free - for those of us hung up on all files in our collection being the same type.

              The different "format" should be resolution: 480p, 720p, 1080p, etc. If a 720p file already exists, whatever the file type, an upload of a similarly sized file is a duplicate, regardless of file type.

              Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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                frostycab @ianfontinell
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                @ianfontinell Do you think it would hard to implement?

                For example, I'd start mine out with such search terms as:

                • AV1 encoded by ab-av1
                • Men At Play
                • Charturbaters Collection
                • Austin Wolfe
                • Lydian Grey
                • Vintage
                • Bara
                • Scat
                • Piss
                • Gooning
                • ...etc,

                thus reducing the amount of stuff to trawl through each and every day. If possible it could be complimented by a Whitelist feature that would show uploads containing whitelisted terms even if they share blacklisted ones. That would allow for a scene to show even from a blacklisted studio if it contained a whitelisted performer.

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                  ianfontinell @frostycab
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                  @frostycab dear lord, what is it that you're downloading? you're on your way to blacklist the whole site lmao

                  Once again I'd like to remind everyone that it's not mandatory that you speak.

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                    frostycab @ianfontinell
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                    @ianfontinell Well therre are some performers who are just an immediate turn-off. I dislikle most of the stuff that was released back when VCRs were a thing. MAP is just ick to me, and all of those big chaturbate collections usually have less than 5 files worth watching. Bara just seems to be anime furry MAP. LOL

                    Hopefully you see what I'm aiming at though. There are some things that will always get skipped no matter what, so the ability to filter them out would be great. πŸ™‚

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                      ianfontinell @frostycab
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                      @frostycab I can ask my personal friend chatgpt to make a script for you based on the one i have, you only need to have tampermonkey or violentmonkey installed in your browser and you can start blacklisting shit

                      Once again I'd like to remind everyone that it's not mandatory that you speak.

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                        ianfontinell
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                        @frostycab SLEAZYFORK: Gaytor.rent Keyword Blacklist & Whitelist

                        It has a floating button visible in the search page, that shows the number of blacklisted torrents in the current list. Hovering shows options to add/manage keywords. Clicking the button switches the viewing mode: shield icon visible means blacklisted entries are hidden. Forbidden icon means only blacklisted entries are shown.

                        It accepts words and sentences, but avoid using dots, commas, dashes or semicolons (because i never tested and it probably will not work/can break the script or filter stuff that it shouldn't)

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                        Once again I'd like to remind everyone that it's not mandatory that you speak.

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                          frostycab @ianfontinell
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                          @ianfontinell Oooh! Spank you for taking the time to do that! Unfortunately, I can't seem to get it to work. I added TamponGibbon to Chrome and installed the script, but can't see that little shield icon anywhere even after Chrome had a full restart after a reboot. 100% user error, but no idea how to fix it.

                          Taste the rainbow! Eat crayons!

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                            ianfontinell @frostycab
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                            @frostycab now I'm curious if it might be the script, i never tested it in chrome. If I find something out I'll let you know.

                            Once again I'd like to remind everyone that it's not mandatory that you speak.

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                              ianfontinell @frostycab
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                              @frostycab alright i tried it on chrome, the browser has a new option now and the user has to enable userscripts on a per-extension basis, so you need to go right-click the extension button, click manage extension and then toggle "enable userscripts" on.

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                              Once again I'd like to remind everyone that it's not mandatory that you speak.

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                                frostycab @ianfontinell
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                                @ianfontinell said:

                                @frostycab alright i tried it on chrome, the browser has a new option now and the user has to enable userscripts on a per-extension basis, so you need to go right-click the extension button, click manage extension and then toggle "enable userscripts" on.

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                                Yup, that did the trick. Looks really good too. Nice and clean. I shall test over the coming days and let you know how I get on.

                                I never knew you could do stuff like this with scripts in a browser. What a shame I don't understand scripting!

                                Thank you!

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                                  ch3v4li3r @ianfontinell
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                                  @ianfontinell Thank you for this. Those re-encodes are really annoying, and they're bad for retention since seeders end up being spread across multiple files. I also don't understand the point of re-encoding from one lossy source to another lossy format.

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                                    ianfontinell @ch3v4li3r
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                                    @ch3v4li3r said:

                                    @ianfontinell Thank you for this. Those re-encodes are really annoying, and they're bad for retention since seeders end up being spread across multiple files. I also don't understand the point of re-encoding from one lossy source to another lossy format.

                                    I am re-encoding my collection as I speak so I know very well why people do it, and I know that it can be very annoying when those re-encodes are spammed all over the site non-stop, but AV1 is very CPU-intensive task that most people cannot choose to do if they ever want to.

                                    At the very least, the person doing it is being quite mindful with their process, using software encoding and using automated bitrate testings to ensure quality loss is not terrible.

                                    But I'll admit, if it wasn't for this script I would lose my shit πŸ˜‚

                                    Once again I'd like to remind everyone that it's not mandatory that you speak.

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                                      trueform
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                                      When in a hurry I like to filter out the search with a similar list , -av1 -ai -enhanced -starlight -omegle etc

                                      then when bored ill browse without the filter , like freeleach - the av1's can be a handy way to resurface random stuff I may not have seen yet that is popular as someone put the effort in to recode / freeleach πŸ™‚

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                                        Joker
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                                        Hi all,

                                        thanks for the long and useful discussion. The duplicate rule is now clear on the rules page (Uploading Rules, in effect since 10 October): same video, same resolution and less than 10% size difference is a duplicate, whatever the container. A new upload of the same video only counts as not a duplicate if it adds something to the video itself: a higher resolution, embedded subtitles or an extra audio track, named in the description.

                                        So an AV1 (or any other) re-encode of a video we already have, in the same resolution and with nothing added, is a duplicate, even if the file is much smaller. If you want to save space, re-encoding for yourself is fine, but please do not upload it next to the original.

                                        https://www.gaytor.rent/rules.php

                                        Joker

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                                          ianfontinell @Joker
                                          last edited by ianfontinell

                                          @Joker said:

                                          Hi all,

                                          thanks for the long and useful discussion. The duplicate rule is now clear on the rules page (Uploading Rules, in effect since 10 October): same video, same resolution and less than 10% size difference is a duplicate, whatever the container. A new upload of the same video only counts as not a duplicate if it adds something to the video itself: a higher resolution, embedded subtitles or an extra audio track, named in the description.

                                          So an AV1 (or any other) re-encode of a video we already have, in the same resolution and with nothing added, is a duplicate, even if the file is much smaller. If you want to save space, re-encoding for yourself is fine, but please do not upload it next to the original.

                                          https://www.gaytor.rent/rules.php

                                          Joker

                                          Nobody asked but I am against this rule, different size should not count as duplicate because it makes no sense and there is no reason whatsoever for this, people can use their own discretion to decide what they want to download while not everyone can or know how to re encode.

                                          Those AV1 encodes for example, I cannot make them myself as they require at least a 40 series GPU.

                                          Once again I'd like to remind everyone that it's not mandatory that you speak.

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                                            Kevin4fm @ianfontinell
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                                            @ianfontinell There does seem to be a contradiction here: "... less than 10% size difference" then it's considered a duplicate, yet "...even if the file is much smaller." is also given as a duplicate example.

                                            Personally 10% sounds too small, but I won't quibble. Certainly, I'd like to be able to choose between a 1080p file that 2GB and one that's 1GB.

                                            Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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