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    • Kevin4fmK Offline
      Kevin4fm @ianfontinell
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      @ianfontinell said:

      get the hell out of here with that stupid ass off-topic discussion please

      Given that the very first sentence that started this thread was "what are these? its a reupload of same file but little smaller. whats the point of this? [Convert to AV1 format using ab-av1]", I don't believe a discussion of what is, and is not, considered a duplicate and why that is, is "off-topic".

      Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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      • raphjdR Offline
        raphjd Forum Administrator
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        Back on topic, please.

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        • john32123666J Offline
          john32123666
          last edited by

          About the subject relating to conversion and re-en/coding ...

          • There is no rules against re-encoding video/clips into other file format container, large or small size ...
            however other file formats (avi, wmv, mpeg, mp4, etc) which were converted into DVD Video. are forbidden ...

          [œùæ] : " Mahirap mag dunong dunongan, Kung wala kang kaalam alam " ...

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          • Kevin4fmK Offline
            Kevin4fm @john32123666
            last edited by Kevin4fm

            @john32123666

            "2. DUPLICATE files are not allowed and will be removed. You are expected to run a search for duplicates prior to submitting a torrent. Duplicates may be accepted when part of a themed collection.A file is considered a duplicate if an existing torrent has the same format and similar size (<10% difference) and has at least one seeder."

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            Still doesn't answer the question of whether .mkv are considered the same format as .mp4. I've had torrents deleted because they are. Yet other file types - "formats" - seem unaffected. Which seems inconsistent.

            I'm mainly seeking clarity so that I can correctly follow the rules and, believe that it should be stated in "The Rules", to which people look for guidance, and not buried somewhere in a topic thread or two.

            Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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            • john32123666J Offline
              john32123666 @Kevin4fm
              last edited by john32123666

              @Kevin4fm said:

              .mkv are considered the same format as .mp4.

              No ...
              I will paraphrase these :
              While both .mkv and .mp4 are video container formats (they hold video, audio, and subtitles), they are not the same format. An MKV file generally supports a wider variety of codecs, multiple audio tracks, and advanced subtitles, whereas an MP4 file is highly compressed and universally supported by almost all devices and web browsers.

              Key Differences
              Compatibility: MP4 is the industry standard for universal playback, meaning it natively works on iOS devices, smart TVs, and web browsers. MKV is an open-standard format that is fantastic for archiving but may require specific media players (like VLC Media Player) on some devices

              Features: MKV shines when dealing with high-definition media because it can store virtually unlimited audio tracks, chapters, and high-quality subtitle files. MP4 limits the number of allowable tracks and formats.

              Error Resilience: MKV has high error resilience, meaning the video can often still be played even if the file is partially damaged or corrupted. MP4 lacks this capability and can be rendered unplayable if broken

              Quality & Size: The container itself doesn’t affect video quality. If the video and audio streams are identical, an MKV and MP4 file will be nearly identical in size and quality. However, MKV files appear larger when they bundle multiple audio/subtitle streams.

              Youtube Video

              as I've said write MKV @ the end of your post title in order to be evaluated, about subcoded/hardcoded sub titles .srt file has nothing to do w/ it ... That is different story ...

              Now the MOD staff has only the access to decide what is best ...

              [œùæ] : " Mahirap mag dunong dunongan, Kung wala kang kaalam alam " ...

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              • Kevin4fmK Offline
                Kevin4fm @john32123666
                last edited by Kevin4fm

                @john32123666 And as I said, I'm not talking about whether they ARE, I'm talking about how they're treated HERE. These are two different things.

                I did confuse the issue earlier when talking to MrMazda by including .srt files in the equation. I'm talking about a straight .mkv file compared to a straight .mp4 file compared to s straight .avi file compared to a straight... which all contain exactly the same information.

                If .mp4 and .mkv files are NOT considered the same format HERE, then - according to the rules - they're not duplicates. And, following that logic, why are other file types ("formats") not considered so. Or maybe they would be if the file's size also matched.

                Yet I've had a torrent with exactly that scenario removed, and another where a single .mkv file containing multiple soft coded subs was nuked as a duplicate because a .mp4 with separate .srt files existed.

                Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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                • john32123666J Offline
                  john32123666 @Kevin4fm
                  last edited by

                  @Kevin4fm said:

                  I'm talking about how they're treated HERE. These are two different things.

                  MOD staff has only the access to decide what is best ...

                  [œùæ] : " Mahirap mag dunong dunongan, Kung wala kang kaalam alam " ...

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                  • Kevin4fmK Offline
                    Kevin4fm @john32123666
                    last edited by

                    @john32123666 That doesn't address the point I'm making.

                    Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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                    • john32123666J Offline
                      john32123666 @Kevin4fm
                      last edited by

                      @Kevin4fm said:

                      @john32123666 That doesn't address the point I'm making.

                      I am done here ask helpdesk they are the one doing the process ...

                      [œùæ] : " Mahirap mag dunong dunongan, Kung wala kang kaalam alam " ...

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                      • Kevin4fmK Offline
                        Kevin4fm @john32123666
                        last edited by

                        @john32123666 No problem. I WAS talking to a member of the team. I simply responded to your comment when you joined in the conversation. Glad you're done, as you seem to have totally missed the point, and not really added any value in this case.

                        Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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                        • john32123666J Offline
                          john32123666 @Kevin4fm
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                          @Kevin4fm Well you're makings thing harder and complicated ... 🙄
                          end of ...

                          [œùæ] : " Mahirap mag dunong dunongan, Kung wala kang kaalam alam " ...

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                          • Kevin4fmK Offline
                            Kevin4fm @john32123666
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                            @john32123666 Mas mahirap maging matalino kung akala mo alam mo na ang lahat.

                            Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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                            • john32123666J Offline
                              john32123666 @Kevin4fm
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                              @Kevin4fm 😆

                              [œùæ] : " Mahirap mag dunong dunongan, Kung wala kang kaalam alam " ...

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                                jokuihmemies
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                                too many details that im lost now but ty anyways xD

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                                • john32123666J Offline
                                  john32123666 @Kevin4fm
                                  last edited by

                                  @Kevin4fm said:

                                  Still doesn't answer the question of whether .mkv are considered the same format as .mp4. I've had torrents deleted because they are. Yet other file types - "formats" - seem unaffected. Which seems inconsistent.

                                  Screenshot_1.jpg Screenshot_3.jpg Screenshot_4.jpg

                                  • https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=syhy1dAsw84CMe1vm2-UYw
                                    Format Container MP4 1.17 GB

                                  • https://www.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=Fq6utj3CaT0jYdvOmXXhGg
                                    Format Container MKV 1.16 GB

                                  I'm already confused on the ff duplicate rules ...
                                  They have exactly same in size w/ 1.24 MB difference, and different file format ...

                                  When it comes through reporting dupes :
                                  Remember: we do allow the same movie in different formats. A duplicate must be the same size and file type.

                                  Screenshot_2.jpg

                                  [œùæ] : " Mahirap mag dunong dunongan, Kung wala kang kaalam alam " ...

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                                  • F Offline
                                    frostycab @john32123666
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                                    I'm not going to pretend that I're read this whole thread because most of it is far beyond my understanding, but it does seem like these conversions are taking up a lot of my feed. The problem for me is that if I find one that looks interesting I now need to go and check my existing library to see if I already have the video, as there's little to be gained from downloading another copy in a different format. Every one of my downloads goes straight into Handbrake and reduced to 720p before I even look at them anyway.

                                    The upsurge in these offerings has got me hoping that @joker might consider adding the ability to create a custom blacklist of seach terms so that we can filter certain terms out by default. It would help with being able to ignore conversions like this, as well as studios, performers or tags that we're just not interested in seeing.

                                    Taste the rainbow! Eat crayons!

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                                    • john32123666J Offline
                                      john32123666
                                      last edited by

                                      The only issue having here is that why .mp4 container over .mkv container aka matroska is consider duplicates of the same size when it comes to size, while .avi, quicktime, etc .. are not ...
                                      Thats what kevin want to know ...

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                                      • Kevin4fmK Offline
                                        Kevin4fm @frostycab
                                        last edited by Kevin4fm

                                        @frostycab Yeah. I was optimistic when @ianfontinell mentioned having created a search filter to automatically exclude them, but the only version I've been able to identify is a "Saved Search", which needs reapplying every time, even if it's saved. I tried that for a bit, but it's more of a pain than having to visually skip over these torrents when browsing a list.

                                        Ideally, it would be great to be able to block uploads by a specific individual. I'm sure this could be done without needing to reveal to the blocker the actual name of the member being blocked.

                                        Alternatively, perhaps being able to add a facility to automatically mark as "Hidden" either by a Title word search or by (Anonymous) user. Or, perhaps, even both.

                                        Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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                                        • ianfontinellI Online
                                          ianfontinell @frostycab
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                                          @frostycab agreed, a blacklist is a lot more useful than the option to hide torrents one by one. i resorted to a custom userscript that does the job and is easy to handle.

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                                          • Kevin4fmK Offline
                                            Kevin4fm @john32123666
                                            last edited by Kevin4fm

                                            @john32123666 Absolutely agree. That's why my two bones of contention are clarity and consistency.

                                            Clarity: If the powers that be have decided .mkv and .mp4 are the same, fine(ish). Just make it clear within the published rules covering duplicates rather than letting someone go through the work of creating a torrent - within the published rules - then nuking it, or requiring a huge amount of work to find it buried in a thread like this. Publishing a reference point should also lead to consistency. Two of my nuked torrents were not duplicates, judged by what has been said here, yet they WERE nuked as duplicates and remained so, even after I queried this.

                                            Consistency: Primarily out of curiosity, as you say, if .mp4 is considered the same as ,mkv, then why isn't .avi, .wmv, etc.?

                                            If the idea is to stop the site getting bogged down with multiple torrents with, essentially, the same files, perhaps file type shouldn't even be a differentiator. There are a plethora of file converter apps - many free - for those of us hung up on all files in our collection being the same type.

                                            The different "format" should be resolution: 480p, 720p, 1080p, etc. If a 720p file already exists, whatever the file type, an upload of a similarly sized file is a duplicate, regardless of file type.

                                            Other opinions are also available. They're not right, obviously, but they are available.

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