Ukraine to replace itself with Africans, Latin druggies, Asians
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@raphjd I'm not a leftist, tho lmao
I feel like you're just using the framing of "person holding an opinion I don't like, therefore leftist", which.... Seems about right when you don't really wanna think for yourself, I suppose.
And my point still stands, nobody non-racist says "you and your ilk". At best you're being bigoted, when using the term. Doesn't really matter what the context is, 99% of the time.
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@raphjd I worship no party. Again, just because I'm disagreeing with you, doesn't mean I automatically like the opposing party. That's the problem with people nowadays: they treat politics discussion like it's soccer/football teams. "No. my team is better! My team has the best players and won last year!"
That's not what this is about, bro.
My main problem is with how things were said. You never, until this very moment, specified "illegals" as the problem. And I don't think making policies that makes legal migration harder is gonna change that. All it does IS make people not want to follow the rules, and "invade" your country, as you put it.
If I'm willing to pirate a movie, making it harder to access said movie isn't gonna disincentivize me from pirating the next one. It's just logical. People are always gonna find a way to do what they want/need to do to survive. In making migration harder, all you're doing is giving criminals more power to get people inside a given country illegally.
The problem with ICE and such institutions is that they don't check everyone's background before deporting them. They just assume that, if you're a Latin person, you shouldn't be there. THAT's the problem here. You saying "Latin and Africans immigrants are criminals" is not only unsubstatiated, but also harmful to people who are of that descent and have migrated legally.
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@blablarg18 "Voting" for what? To decide if people have the right to make an honest living if they go through the relevant procedures to migrate?
That's like if the whole kitchen had to decide if they would serve a customer on McDonald's before serving them... It's just wasted time. Villages are often the target for migration, because the cost of living is usually lower than a big city's. It's just common sense. Most people are going into a country because they can't live well in theirs, more often than not.
Making the average person vote is not only slow and resource-draining, but also the purpose of the screening IS filtering people to allocate them somewhere they would be a better fit if necessary in the first place. That's the whole point of procedure and the documentation they ask of you. The whole procedure was made so that you WOULDN'T have to vote. That's why it's standardized. No one voted on tax rates, foreign aid, or trade deals either. That's what electing representatives is for.
It's for that reason that that I really do believe it's a race thing. You guys don't know anything about immigration and are just parroting what you see online, without actually thinking about what you're saying, or at least bothering to investigate things further.
And again, you guys brought race and descent into this in the first place. If it was so color-blind as you claim, the title of the thread wouldn't be literally "Ukraine to replace itself with Africans, Latin druggies, Asians". Nor would you guys be defending yourself every post with a variant of "I'm not racist, I swear", or using terms like "you and your ilk".
You just like generalizing people, using migration (a topic that you're clearly not familiar with) and "democracy" as an excuse, without actually wanting to engage in meaningful conversation.
You just want to really say "I am uncomfortable with any kind Mexican or black people around me", but that doesn't fly with most, so you're clinging onto this "it's definitely not a race thing guys!! [skull emoji] [facepalm emoji] Wow, libtards, amirite?" It's that kind of stance that I cannot tolerate, regardless of if the person disagrees with me or not. If you don't want immigrants, at least be honest about why that is, and stop turning the word "democracy" into another buzzword.
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@blablarg18 Bro there are more parties and directions than left or right. Libertarians, Christian Democrats, Nationalists, Greens... None of these map cleanly onto left/right. Reading a history book might help you figure that one out, but I think you get the point.
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@raphjd I'm not a leftist, tho lmao
I feel like you're just using the framing of "person holding an opinion I don't like, therefore leftist", which.... Seems about right when you don't really wanna think for yourself, I suppose.
And my point still stands, nobody non-racist says "you and your ilk". At best you're being bigoted, when using the term. Doesn't really matter what the context is, 99% of the time.
You talk like a leftist. I wouldn't be surprised if you had multi-colored hair and a nose ring.
I think for myself, which is why I can be gay and not think as part of the hivemind.
Funny, I was racist a minute ago, now I'm just a bigot.
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So, every time someone new jumps into the covnersation, you demand we throw in every caveat for everything we believe.
If you paid attention, you'd know we don't have any issue with LEGAL immigration. It's been said countless times in various threads.
You are basing your ICE views based on leftist media. They aren't targeting just non-whites. Also, over 2/3rds of ICE is non-white, with the majority being hispanic.
I wouldn't doubt that you still believe the lie that the little girl (toddler) with her mom and the border patrol, was taken away from her mom. I know, I know, you media told you that lie. They also didn't tell you the first part of the story that the mom was well off but wanted to come to the US so she left her entire family behind and tried to sneak into the US. She got caught and was sent back. She was told that if she brought her toddler, ICE would let her stay. Didn't work. Mother and daughter were deported. That was under Trump 45.
More recently, under Trump 47, a similar thing happened. The leftist media claimed that ICE took a little boy from his dad. Of course, that was a total lie. The dad fled, leaving the kid so ICE had to take the kid into their care until CPS could take him.
There are countless examples of the leftist media lying.
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@blablarg18 Bro there are more parties and directions than left or right. Libertarians, Christian Democrats, Nationalists, Greens... None of these map cleanly onto left/right. Reading a history book might help you figure that one out, but I think you get the point.
The political spectrum is a left/right thing. It's like gender.
Every political belief falls somewhere between extreme left and extreme right.
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@raphjd Left-Right is terms from French Revolution. If u trace it back there, it gets simple fast.
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Far Left - says Christians MUST be killed now, especially orthodox ones (Catholic in West, Orthodox in Russia) so that we can engineer "New Man". Pol Pot, Bolsheviks, Jacobins, Spanish Republicans, Ho Chi Minh - all took great pleasure in rape, slaughter & execution of nuns & priests.
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Left - I'll finance Far Left & wink at them.
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Center - Propaganda trick of Far Left. "I'm moderate and even I agree that.......[latest Far Left position]"
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Right - I honestly don't care if Christians are killed. I guess they can live. Maybe.
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Far Right - says, No don't kill orthodox & believing Christians, you sick assholes.
Issues of race, sex & class are window dressing. Nazis were SOCIALIST & Far Left, like Bolsheviks. Nazis made a few pro-Christian speeches to get power, then went full pagan-secular-satanist & put strongest Christian believers in concentration camps - alongside Gypsies, Gays, mental defectives, & working-class Jews, means Jews who were not 'connected' like young George Soros was connected..
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@raphjd Bro, it says it right there "AT BEST you're a biggot". Do you know what that means? It means I'm implying more than one possibility. You could be a racist, a bigot or whatever. This really is not the gotcha you think it is lmao
Not only that, but racism is A FORM of bigotry by definition, look:
"Racism is a form of bigotry. A bigot is someone who holds strong prejudices against particular groups, and since racists specifically harbor beliefs about racial superiority and inferiority, they fall under the broader category of bigotry."
Bigotry is any kind of intolerance: from sexism to homophobia. Just the fact that you don't know what the word means is... Aggravating. If this is your definition of not being part of a hivemind, I really would have to ask you if you're okay. You really don't seem to be quite outside this "hivemind" as you might think.
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@raphjd Bro, I legitimately don't know what you're talking about. I don't live in the US anymore, so I don't know what this toddler thing is about. You're making a lot of assumptions lol
I could look it up, but I don't think this particular incident has much to do with the main thing we're discussing: this thread being racist and migration. I'm not gonna get into whatever the incident with the toddler and the border patrol was, because it doesn't disprove anything that I said so far. Proving it to be true or not does nothing for the discussion at hand.
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@raphjd The gender argument literally adds nothing to the discussion, so... Yeah. Good luck with that one. Your way of viewing politics is extremely narrow-minded. Moving on...
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@blablarg18 Cool origin story, but your entire spectrum is just "who kills Christians" with extra steps. That's a persecution complex with a bibliography, not political theory.
The French Revolution origin is real. The part you left out is that which side of the room you sat on was about economics and power, not religion. The aristocrats and other nobles who aligned with the king would be on the right, and everyone else would sit on the left. You took a historical footnote and retrofitted your whole worldview onto it.
Bolsheviks and Khmer Rouge were brutal to clergy, sure. But 'some regimes killed priests' doesn't make that the defining axis of all politics. Liberation theology and Christian socialism exist, which is apparently news to you.
On Nazis being far left: they dissolved socialist parties day one, threw Marxists and union organizers in camps. If that's far left, they were really committed to the bit of murdering every other far leftist first, without fail. Historians who actually study fascism (from all sides of the political spectrum) classify it separately precisely because of what fascists DID, not what they called themselves.
The Soros "connected Jews vs working class Jews" bit is where you stopped doing history entirely, by the way. This is supposed to be about politics and history, not a conclusion you built first and reverse-engineered a map to get to.
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@raphjd Bro, I legitimately don't know what you're talking about. I don't live in the US anymore, so I don't know what this toddler thing is about. You're making a lot of assumptions lol
I could look it up, but I don't think this particular incident has much to do with the main thing we're discussing: this thread being racist and migration. I'm not gonna get into whatever the incident with the toddler and the border patrol was, because it doesn't disprove anything that I said so far. Proving it to be true or not does nothing for the discussion at hand.
Ah, so you admit you are sling insults around, without knowing any of the context involved. Typical leftist.
I don't live in the US anymore, and I still know what is going on.
Sadly, I gave you more credit than you deserve. I thought you at least paid attention to the various geopolitical issues.
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