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    USA new "Food Pyramid" advice

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      blablarg18
      last edited by blablarg18

      Out: Carbs. Processed snacks & USA breakfast cereal.

      In: Veggies, proteins, dairy.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutrition/new-upside-down-food-pyramid-released-here-s-what-has-changed/ar-AA1TLGxH

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      Old one said "cereals" to mean grains, except it was language-programming to give kids hi-sugar, processed "breakfast cereal" products. Then stuff yourselves with pasta, white bread, snacks like commercial pretzels.

      New one ☝ cuts that, says Whole grains.

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        raphjd Forum Administrator @blablarg18
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        @blablarg18

        The official UK NHS dietary chart is 25% carbs, 25% protein & healthy fats, and 50% fruit and veg.

        No more than 10% of that is to be processed, but they recommend that you keep it as close to 0% as you can.

        They changed the chart sometime during covid, so any chart before that will be different; ie a lot more carbs and less of the other stuff.

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          blablarg18 @raphjd
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          @raphjd wait, you mean it's another Health thing where UK got it right ahead of USA?

          Interesting.

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            eobox91103
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            I always thought the major food groups were alcohol, chocolate, caffeine, and fat. I'll have to give this some study.

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              blablarg18 @eobox91103
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              @eobox91103 🙂 tho Bacon should be its own group

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                eobox91103 @blablarg18
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                @blablarg18 You're right, I forgot that one.

                Back to the pyramid itself, I'm not sure how to interpret it: Are things better for us at the top of the pyramid? Or should we eat more of things at the top and less from the bottom. If so, I'm pleased to see broccoli and peas at the top, as they are favorites of mine.

                Also, the image shows canned green bean and canned tuna. That implies at least some level of processing. It mystifies me. Fortunately my partner is a professional chef, and he worries about this stuff for me.

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                  blablarg18 @eobox91103
                  last edited by blablarg18

                  @eobox91103 Wide area is more of what to eat, narrow area is less.

                  "Processed" foods - ur right, it's shaky concept.

                  Fresh green beans & tuna are prob better than canned. But, canned are not bad, their nutrition is not destroyed. & are what some people buy.

                  Snack foods, on other hand, may be (but aren't always) processed so much that their nutrition is destroyed, except calories, & except anti-nutrition elements like their added chemicals.

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                    raphjd Forum Administrator @blablarg18
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                    @blablarg18

                    Canned tuna in spring water, tinned fruit in natural juice, and tinned veg in salted water tend to be "acceptable" processed foods.

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                      blablarg18
                      last edited by blablarg18

                      btw, New law in USA allows 2% milk & whole milk back into USA schools.

                      https://www.wishtv.com/news/national/whole-milk-returns-schools/

                      The action allows schools participating in the National School Lunch Program to serve whole and 2% fat milk along with the skim and low-fat products required since 2012.

                      Nutrition experts, lawmakers and the dairy industry have argued that whole milk [ed: and 2% fat milk] is a delicious, nutritious food that has been unfairly vilified, and that some studies suggest that kids who drink it are less likely to develop obesity than those who drink lower-fat options. Critics have also said that many children don’t like the taste of lower-fat milk [ed: nonfat & 1% fat] and don’t drink it, leading to missed nutrition and food waste.

                      To keep politics out, I avoid saying who signed it. & who before, banned good milk.

                      But........ USA got so low, they purposely made MILK unpleasant for kids & shitty............ ........ ..........& USA kids turned to highly processed snacks for missing calories & got even more obese.

                      Can u believe that?????? 🤦

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                        raphjd Forum Administrator @blablarg18
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                        @blablarg18

                        I've drank 2% my whole life. The rest tastes like crap..

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                          blablarg18 @raphjd
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                          @raphjd When I was a kid, 2% and some chocolate powder, was promoted as a healthy snack.

                          Guess they were right!

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                            eobox91103
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                            As a lad we always had non-fat milk, which I didn't mind. When I went to university, I got 2% and enjoyed it very much. Now I treat myself to full-fat milk, although I don't have much of it.

                            That said, there's another white liquid that I enjoy drinking even more, but I digress.

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