New Upload Guide Discussions
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I'm aware I may be asking for too much (since it requires website changes instead of only guide changes), but a separate field for tags with mandatory 3 tags would be nice. I suppose there's no other way to make people tag their torrents. Ooooor - You could maybe introduce searching for tags in comments and reward people who actively tag untagged torrents with seed bonus (even 1 point per post/tag should be encouraging)
But anyway i'm glad ~tags will appear in the new upload guide. :bravo:
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@agis: You are right, if everything is done correctly in the step 4.0, it doesn't matter if the torrent was set to private tracker or not. Even the tracker URL doesn't matter, as long as there was a valid URL.
This is due to the fact that GayTorrent modifies the .torrent file which is re-downloaded with the right tracker setting and the right tracker URL, including adding the personal secrete passkey.
However, both settings given have some advantages in the case step 4.0 isn't mastered correctly in helping / solving issues with the uploader:
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if that URL is used and the not re-downloaded torrent, there is still a connection to the tracker, which will return "unregistered torrent pass" so we will know from that the passkey is missing and a connection to the tracker is possible
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a public torrent and a private torrent will have another hash, so if the not re-download torrent got seed, without "Private" the re-downloaded will add an additional torrent in the list with need to right file pointing. When it was set to private, it should be enough to confirm to load the tracker URL to the existing seed.
@misiekblue: Ahh, yes. If there will be no more important things left, the tagging will be programmed into the site. You might have seen that we prepare for multiple categories per torrent, too.
Sorry, that goes a little off topic.
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For the coming description guide or the description section of the upload guide in it's current state; tlavideo.com and hisxpress.com are good places to find descriptions to c/p and also DVD covers/pics.
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I did not mention any particular site on purpose …
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Hello Uwe,
here my two cents on the New Upload Guide:
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I like it a lot, especially the screenshots. A hugh improvement to the old one.
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Maybe a differentiation between basic and additional information (e.g. different font, frame, labeling tips as such, …) might make the guide better readable. Uploading a new torrent is easier then many think and it would be great if the Upload Guide reflects that.
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A screenshot depicting a perfect upload would be perfect (Including covers, pictures, thumbnails, date of production, cast, description, filetype, resolution, fps, audio, tags …) might increase the quality of torrents.
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A tip to just wait 30 seconds before you download/seed the new tracker would be nice. (I think the system needs a little time to recognice that the new tracker is valid.) This was my first obstacle i faced as a new uploader and it confused me a lot.
Hope my feedback is of any use,
Gerald -
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- Maybe a differentiation between basic and additional information (e.g. different font, frame, labeling tips as such, …) might make the guide better readable. Uploading a new torrent is easier then many think and it would be great if the Upload Guide reflects that.
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Perhaps the guide should just be this:
First, create the .torrent file in you favourite programme for torrents. Use http://tracker.gaytor.rent:2710/announce as tracker URL and set not to start seeding immediately. Consult the client's manual in case of questions/problems.
Then browse the "Upload" page (menu on top of the page), click "I have read and understand". Then fill the web form step by step, start to select the category, upload pictures and specify some basic information like the name to be displayed and a comment. Only fields with a red star "*" are mandatory. Then select the .torrent file and click "Do it!" to upload the torrent file.
After uploading the torrent you created, you'll be lead to the created description page and must download the .torrent file containing the announce-URL with your personal secrete passkey. Otherwise your won't be able to seed! Detailed instructions are given on the upload page.
Now open the .torrent file (the one you downloaded, not the one you created!) in your programme for torrents. Typically it will show a window to confirm the download location: direct it to the file(s) from which you created the torrent. The programme will check the files integrity, which may take some time, and then contact the tracker.
More seriously, I've difficulties to imagine how to structure that more. Main steps got a box. Paragraphs separated by line(s), key words and buttons are bold, links yellow bold, remarks in italics …
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- A screenshot depicting a perfect upload would be perfect (Including covers, pictures, thumbnails, date of production, cast, description, filetype, resolution, fps, audio, tags …) might increase the quality of torrents.
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That is planned to be a Guide on its own "Make Good Descriptions"
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Hmm, I am not sure to understand this right. Usually it takes more than 30 seconds to re-download the torrent file, run a re-check and start seeding.
However your point brings me to another thing, which may be irretationg for first time uploaders: There is a delay between the torrent client programme / tracker on one side and the GayTorrent;ru web page on the other side. It can take a few minutes until a torrent shown "Seeding"with "working" tracker feedback in the torrent client is shown with 1 Seeder on the web page in "Browse", "Search" and the description page.
I've to think how to say this in a remark or the instructions.
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@Uwe:
@agis: You are right, if everything is done correctly in the step 4.0, it doesn't matter if the torrent was set to private tracker or not. Even the tracker URL doesn't matter, as long as there was a valid URL.
This is due to the fact that GayTorrent modifies the .torrent file which is re-downloaded with the right tracker setting and the right tracker URL, including adding the personal secrete passkey.
However, both settings given have some advantages in the case step 4.0 isn't mastered correctly in helping / solving issues with the uploader:
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if that URL is used and the not re-downloaded torrent, there is still a connection to the tracker, which will return "unregistered torrent pass" so we will know from that the passkey is missing and a connection to the tracker is possible
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a public torrent and a private torrent will have another hash, so if the not re-download torrent got seed, without "Private" the re-downloaded will add an additional torrent in the list with need to right file pointing. When it was set to private, it should be enough to confirm to load the tracker URL to the existing seed.
Very clear Uwe. Thank you. From now on I will act accordingly. :ok2:
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I have a suggestion for a small clarifiication to the Upload Guide (https://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=18666.0).
This is something that confused ME at first.While I was in the process of trying to download a newly-uploaded torrent, another administrator wrote to me to warn me that I wasn't seeding.
I suddenly realized why I didn't see myself "seeding" a torrent, the first time I tried to upload: there's an additional step which I didn't see described in the Upload Guide, viz., that the administration of gaytor.rent first approves a torrent, before it goes "live." I think you should add a "step" in the Upload Guide that clarifies this, or else make it a clearer instruction if it's there but I didn't notice it; it was confusing me, as a naive, first-time uploader, when I didn't see myself as seeding the torrent, and got errors from the tracker about it being an unregistered torrent. This is probably why: and instead, I was trying to figure out what I was doing wrong.
I hope my naiveté is of use to you in improving the guide. I think I followed it correctly otherwise.
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There is no more such approval step in the upload process since October 2012. Torrents are listed immediately. Either in the "dead" torrents if not seed, or shortly after they are seed in the default visible list of active torrents.
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