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      jaroonn @raphjd
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      @raphjd Not when these "sins" are not mere accusations that can be proved and charged. You didn't hear any Democrats supporting Sen. Menendez when he as found guilty. It was Democrats that forced Sen. Franken to resign, even without evidence.

      As for Clinton and Biden....where's the evidence?

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        raphjd Forum Administrator @jaroonn
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        @jaroonn

        Let them have their day in civil court with the 50.01% burden of proof.

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          jaroonn @raphjd
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          @raphjd Gather the evidence, present it to a Grand Jury........

          You know the steps.

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            lololulu19 @jaroonn
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            @jaroonn They can't put Biden on trial because he was found to be too senile.

            Hillary Clinton got out of going to trial because she and all of her co-conspirators were granted immunity before they were even charged.

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              jaroonn @lololulu19
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              @lololulu19 said in Chill out.....:

              They can't put Biden on trial because he was found to be too senile.
              Hillary Clinton got out of going to trial because she and all of her co-conspirators were granted immunity before they were even charged.

              Would you like to try that again?

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                blablarg18 @jaroonn
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                @jaroonn OK, here - They can't put Biden on trial because he was found to be too senile.

                Hillary Clinton got out of going to trial because she and all of her co-conspirators were granted immunity before they were even charged.

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                  lololulu19 @jaroonn
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                  @jaroonn Sure Jaroon:

                  They can't put Biden on trial because he was found to be too senile.

                  Hillary Clinton got out of going to trial because she and all of her co-conspirators were granted immunity before they were even charged.

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                    jaroonn @blablarg18
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                    @blablarg18 said in Chill out.....:

                    Hillary Clinton got out of going to trial because she and all of her co-conspirators were granted immunity before they were even charged.

                    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-suggests-hillary-clinton-received-fbi-immunity/story?id=42457118

                    Associates of Clinton were granted immunity in and investigation of her (standard legal practice). Why would Hillary be granted immunity when she was the focus of the investigation? You need to stop listening to Trump. He's making you believe bullshit is real.

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                      raphjd Forum Administrator @jaroonn
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                      @jaroonn

                      Strok (you should know who he is) granted her immunity by saying she didn't intend to commit a crime, mens rea, when she violated the Congressional subpoena (destroying 33,000+ emails) and the illegal email server.

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                        jaroonn @raphjd
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                        @raphjd said in Chill out.....:

                        Strok (you should know who he is) granted her immunity

                        Sorry, I don't know who that is and can't find any reference to him online. Is that the correct spelling?

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                          raphjd Forum Administrator @jaroonn
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                          Sorry, Peter Strzok.

                          He was one of the top FBI guys. He was fired.

                          He was banging Lisa Page, a top FBI lawyer.

                          He infamously told Paige that he had an insurance plan to keep Trump from winning, as well as many other things.

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                            jaroonn @raphjd
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                            @raphjd said in Chill out.....:

                            Strzok

                            I admit I don't know much about the case; I wasn't following it at the time. I've just read this:

                            https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-reached-agreement-with-clinton-lawyers-to-block-fbi-access-to-clinton-foundation-emails-strzok-says

                            There is no mention of her being granted "immunity," but rather an agreement not to access her emails related to the Clinton Foundation.

                            I don't really have an opinion on this; as I said, I wasn't following it.

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                              raphjd Forum Administrator @jaroonn
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                              It wasn't immunity per se, but rather by claiming that she didn't have men's rea (criminal intent) that effectively gave her immunity. If you watched the Congressional hearings, that was the reason she was not prosecuted.

                              Strangely, criminal intent isn't required to prosecute her for the illegal email server and violating the Congressional subpoena. Smashing hard drives under subpoena with hammers and trying to smuggle others out of the country screams criminal intent. But anyway.

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                                jaroonn @raphjd
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                                @raphjd Fair enough.

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                                  blablarg18 @raphjd
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                                  @raphjd When FBI interviewed her, she said it was up to her to do it or not - they'd better not subpoena her like other people - & she'd only do it if they ruled out it comes back on her.

                                  FBI not only never subpoenaed her, they didn't bother to record interview. Or her aides.

                                  "Hur tapes" for her crew, don't even exist.

                                  -That- is Above The Law.

                                  Who cares, if immunity is formal or practical - same result.

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