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    "Why Martin Luther King Was Republican"

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      jaroonn @blablarg18
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      @blablarg18 said in "Why Martin Luther King Was Republican":

      @raphjd I never thought about MLK party. Wow was he GOP? For 100 years after USA Civil War, most blacks were. Thus plausible.

      While Dems were KKK party just as you say.

      WERE being the operative word. Neither of current parties are anything like they were except that Democrats support social justice and social welfare and the Republicans are essentially the party of rich industrialists who con the working class into voting against their best interests with bogus culture war issues.

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        jaroonn @blablarg18
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        @blablarg18 https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/25/417154906/dixies-long-journey-from-democratic-stronghold-to-republican-redoubt

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          raphjd Forum Administrator @jaroonn
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          @jaroonn

          You're delusions are showing.

          Strom was basically the only Dem to switch parties.

          Byrd stayed right where he had always been, as did many others.

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            jaroonn @raphjd
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            @raphjd During the 80s many of them called themselves "Reagan Democrats," remaining Democrat in name at the local level, but voting for Republicans in national elections. Over time, Republicans have completely taken over the south, except for the educated urban centers and are not as strong in Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia where many northerners moved.

            This is not my opinion. It is well-documented.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

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              raphjd Forum Administrator @jaroonn
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              @jaroonn

              Umm, Wikipedia is a leftist site.

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                jaroonn @raphjd
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                @raphjd True. Facts. Kryptonite to the Right.

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                  raphjd Forum Administrator @jaroonn
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                  @jaroonn

                  Yeah, OK.

                  That's why you guys get your news from proven liars.

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                    hubrys
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                    @jaroonn is correct about the parties switching, starting in the 1960's thru the 80's. If @raphjd had ever taken a political science class in a university, then he'd know that. But, as we all know, @raphjd thinks reading books makes you dumber.

                    But, for context...

                    The Great Switch: How the Republican & Democratic Parties Flipped Ideologies

                    "In 1964, Democratic president Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act into law. In the 1964 election, Republican candidate Barry Goldwater publicly opposed the new law, arguing that it expanded the power of the federal government to a dangerous level.

                    It was this argument that led to a final, decisive switch. Black voters, who had historically been loyal to the Republican Party because of the 1866 Civil Rights Act, had already been switching to the Democratic Party.

                    However, upon hearing Goldwater’s argument against the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the majority of Black voters left the Republican Party in favor of the Democrats. They saw the Democratic Party as advocates for equality and justice, while the Republicans were too concerned with keeping the status quo in America.

                    As the 60s and 70s continued, Democrats sought reform in other places, such as abortion and school prayer. White southern Democrats began to resent how much the Democratic Party was intervening into the rights of the people.

                    By the 1980s, white southern Democrats had become Republicans, and the majority of the south was now Republican. The Republican Party now is solidly conservative while the Democratic Party is the liberal one."

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                      raphjd Forum Administrator @hubrys
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                      @hubrys

                      I do love how liberals intentionally ignore a lot of history.

                      Sen Byrd remained a Democrat. He was besties with Biden and Hillary said that he (along with Margaret Sanger) was her hero.

                      Biden's 1994 crime bill and the way they talked about black people, shows how much they loved black people. Let's not forget home much they love gay people.

                      Democrats talked a good talk but they never did anything good for the groups they claimed to love.

                      The welfare system they created forced the fathers out of the home.

                      They, not the Repubs, made laws against the LGBTs.

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                        jaroonn @raphjd
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                        @raphjd These are all anecdotal anomalies. All you have to do is to look at what these parties were then and what they are now. I don't believe every Republican is a racist homophobe, but if you are a racist homophobe, you are probably a Republican.

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                          raphjd Forum Administrator @jaroonn
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                          If you are a racist homophobe, you were most likely a Democrat in the 1990s.

                          Clinton-era anti-LGBT and the 1994 crime laws are not "anecdotal anomalies".

                          Starting in 1971, the DNC promised to give us ENDA (whatever it's original name was) and they never ever delivered. The only thing they did was stab us in the back.

                          Liberal Colorado gave us Prop 2.

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                            Spintendo @raphjd
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                            How some Republicans viewed the 1994 Crime Bill back then. They thought it was too lenient and not strong enough:

                            Youtube Video

                            So what is it that Raphjd is arguing here, that the 1994 crime bill was too harsh on black families? Is that because "conventional wisdom" and the "mainstream media" tells us that it was too harsh on black families? I would be surprised then, that Raphjd would be supporting what "mainstream media" tells him about the crime bills effects. Cuz he knows back in 1994 he would have been against it as being too lenient .


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                              raphjd Forum Administrator @Spintendo
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                              Tell me again what Hillary, Biden, and countless Dems said about black people and the need for the law.

                              Uncivilized, unsocialized, predators, super predators, and many, many others.

                              Yeah, Dems aren't racists.

                              Biden, as Kamala reminded us, called integrated schools "racial jungles" and didn't want his kids going to them.

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                                Spintendo @raphjd
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                                @raphjd said in (/post/309459):

                                Uncivilized, unsocialized, predators, super predators, and many, many others.

                                That's what the GOP said why the law was not strict enough and too lenient, and shouldn't be supported. Back then you would have been against it too, as too lenient.

                                Now you're implying it was too harsh, because that's what 'conventional wisdom' and the mainstream media is telling you about that law.


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                                  Spintendo @raphjd
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                                  @raphjd That's what you're implying here, that the "Biden crime bill" was too harsh on black families (a mainstream media talking point).

                                  So why are you spouting mainstream media ideas like that? Is it because you think that makes Biden look bad? So I see you tout mainstream media ideas only when they service your interests.

                                  Why aren't you more honest in saying that back then, you would have been with your GOP cronies in the above video in opposing the crime bill as being too lenient. Deep down inside you know that's the truth.


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                                    raphjd Forum Administrator @Spintendo
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                                    As always, you are intentionally ignoring the words of your beloved Democrats.

                                    You clowns keep telling us that conservatives hate minorities, while intentionally and blatantly ignoring the words of liberals.

                                    I haven't given my opinion on the Biden crime bill. However, you fellow liberals have screeched about it being racist, while sucking Biden's cock and eating Hillary's pussy. Then, of course, there's what your beloved liberals said about black people to justify the bill.

                                    Biden has a long and well-recorded history of being a racist, by his own words, but you leftist twats still suck his cock at every turn.

                                    Schumer, while still a state-level politician, was a fanatical red-liner. Schumer gave us the Religious Freedom restoration Act that gave believers the right to discriminate against ONLY the LGBT community. Yet, I know you will suck his cock while telling us how much he loves us.

                                    Hillary was anti-marriage equality, conveniently enough, until she ran for President in 2016.

                                    I do love how you people keep trying to rewrite history.

                                    Also, the DNC supported closed borders until at least 2014, but it seems like the switch actually happened in the autumn of 2015. Of course, we've seen you people try to rewrite history while forgetting that congressional votes and speeches are well recorded.

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                                      blablarg18 @raphjd
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                                      @raphjd Also remember: Trump is FIRST USA Pres to win being in favor of gay marriage.

                                      In 2008 & 12, both times Obama said marriage is between a man & a woman.

                                      Barry Soetoro changed his stance very late, only 2015 after SCOTUS changed. You could say Barry led from behind. (cough)

                                      In 2016, GOP still opposed but Trump told them sorry but I support, deal with it. Hillary also supported, so world woulda had that "first" anyway. But ya it was finally Trump.

                                      Schumer gave us the Religious Freedom restoration Act that gave believers the right to discriminate against ONLY the LGBT community.

                                      Jaw dropping.

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                                        raphjd Forum Administrator @blablarg18
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                                        Trump was the first President to win after waving the Pride flag while campaigning.

                                        Hillary was completely against marriage equality until she found out she was running against Trump. Then she made the switch to being pro-marriage equality.

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                                          @raphjd This does not surprise me... Many politicians will say whatever they think they need to say in order to get into power, and then quite often, do not deliver on their promises. It's kind of sad, really.

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                                            Spintendo @raphjd
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                                            @raphjd

                                            Republicans in 1994: "Biden is bad because he supports passing a crime bill in 1994 that will let criminals out of prison."

                                            Republicans in 2023: "Biden is bad because he supported a crime bill in 1994 that put criminals in prison."

                                            Look at that there.... those clever Republicans, they switched their line of attack! ....so much so that it appears as if Biden is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.

                                            I mean really, the idea that Republicans would think that Biden is bad because he passed a crime bill is utterly ridiculous. Why would Republicans even care about criminals going to prison? (Bring let out, that they would hate)


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