Vanishing torrents ...
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@dilemmax the problem with that theory is... let's say there is a scene starring "Freddy Phuk" from "Bentkok Studios". Why is it that ONE scene of "Freddy Phuk" from Bentkok is removed, while several other scenes of Freddy Phuk from Bentkok remain on the site?
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@VGC I really don't think this site needs to advertise by having it listed on Google. Yet the contents of this site ARE found on Google searches.
This problem of "vanishing torrents" has come and gone many times over the past 20 years or so.. and right now it is becoming epidemic.
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@MrMazda I just remembered something. About a year ago, a moderator of this site posted some content of THEMSELVES that they made, and it got removed for being a DMCA violation! Obviously that was a mistake. I don't even recall which moderator it was.
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Like many users, including myself have explained, there are agents using software to comb the internet constantly looking for content. They have a database of content against which they are looking for matches. One photo or a few seconds of video or audio are enough to hit a content match, and a takedown request is sent out automatically. There are also video and image files embedded with a "digital fingerprint" which are automatically identified by the bots looking for content (this goes for a lot of fansite videos and photos). A studio or content creator using these agents will upload the content they want protected to the agent's database. Whether the torrents you upload hit a content match or not depends entirely on whether the videos or images you are sharing here are in the agent's database. Newer content is far more likely to hit a match than older content.
I am sure there are also copyright owners manually searching for content, one I know of in particular
, but they are a minority and must be wasting a considerable amount of time and effort fighting a battle that they will never win.One issue with these agents is that they cannot differentiate between legally and illegally shared content. For example, I may upload a video to my OF page and also to the copyright agent's database to protect it from illegal distribution. Some time later I may decide to share the video as a promo on my Twitter account. The agent's software will find this video and issue a takedown request, because that is ultimately what they are supposed to do.
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@drekkin I don't disagree with you..
but i would point out that a bot is NOT a legitimate entity to be filing DMCA complaints - not that any of the DMCA complaints are legitimate.BUT it goes beyond that.. because as I mentioned, a moderator of this site created his own original content and posted it here.. and it got taken down with a DMCA violation.. so.. something is gagootz with the system of DMCA reviews.
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It seems like we all know the issue at this point. Its not the first time it's happened. It's more aggressive than it's ever been in the past.
I don't know that this is the case of people being paid for specific creators, bots are intelligent but not foolproof, some of the content taken down are also on other torrent engines. Even some of the notoriously aggressive sites (like the european one with guys who barely touch eachother, the wrestling ones that are rarely even actually porn and the photographer that takes super high def pics of european dudes that are pretty softcore) don't 24/7 check and confirm for take down reports lol and I'm seeing some torrents up for about 10 minutes and just grabbing because I'm like "well I guess I can decide if I'll keep it later my ratio is good" and most are deleted well before they finish.
Some of the videos taken down are even available on some tube sites.
Whoever is making this many requests isn't being selective but just massively reporting incredibly quickly but more actively during certain hours of the day.
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Proof is usually right in looking by upload dates at the fansite category. It goes from like 1 day to 1 week.
The straight category has more recent torrents than the fansite category on its first page and I see new torrents on fansite every few hours.
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@lololulu19 Nobody is saying that "a bot" is a legal entity. The legal entities are the agencies who protect the copyrighted content of their clients, They are paid by their clients and act on their behalf. This is all allowed under the DMCA.
You are not the one being wronged here so I don't understand why you are playing the role of victim.
We shouldn't miss the point here too that a lot of torrents are taken down by the mods because they break the upload rules. There's plenty of torrents uploaded here that disappear within hours, not because of DMCA takedowns but because they are garbage.
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@drekkin I think you're missing that some are being deleted before the quality can be verified.
I have my doubts that the last week of OF files are mysteriously that much lower quality than the previous dumps.
Typically the moderators here yes do delete torrents that need to be, poor quality, viruses etc but when duplicates are deleted the older version is usually bumped.
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@drekkin Yep, I'm aware of the rules and the torrents I've seen deleted didn't break those.
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@lololulu19 That was me actually....I'm still not sure what happened with that.
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@krad3434 I don't think they remove low quality videos. That would eliminate all the vintage videos of the 70's and 80's.
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@MrMazda They must have seen your self made video, and decided that you looked like Zeb Atlas, so they deleted it for impersonation.
Have you tried posting it again?
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@lololulu19 By quality i just mean overall - is the title accurate, is this a file that is easily searchable already, does the torrent contain like 3 copies of the same large files, usually those are handled once comments come in.
Ive sometimes seen something from this site get reuploaded to another torrent site a day after and then re-uploaded here a day after. Those are cases where fast removal makes sense but none are as fast as we've seen fansite videos disappear lately.
It was just me getting at the point that torrents getting removed within an hour or less is unusual even when its for valid reasons, so enormous sweeping accurate DMCA removals feel even less likely, especially somehow instantly recognizing all fansite content in particular.
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@krad3434 You don't seem to understand how the moderation process works. There is no pre-moderation or review of the torrents that are uploaded here. If a torrent breaks the rules it's up to the community to report it and it will be reviewed by a mod. A torrent can be taken down within minutes of being uploaded if there is a mod online when it's reported. Most of the torrents that break the rules are pretty obvious and are taken down very promptly.
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@drekkin
At this point I don't know what to say anymore. At no point did i say mods can't remove files for breaking rules, if you can find this, please feel free to directly quote it.You seem to be incredibly convinced that weeks worth of OF files are being removed in minutes due to mods deleting them due to rule breaks.
I am saying that last year there was a thread where people who uploaded content and people who downloaded it noticed patterns to immediate file deletion that lessened during certain times of the day and certain days of the week and then it stopped.
Unless you are the one personally deleting the files you aren't adding anything to the discussion beyond casting doubt on the people who are saying there may be other reasons. Unless you are under the belief they are all being taken down while they are downloaded because they are all breaking the rules linked.
If that's what you believe than that's great. I get it you think every single OF file being removed is only a rule break, you've made it clear. Everyone else seems to think otherwise, especially considering some are updates on files listed on site already.
Thanks for the input.
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Like there is a moderator on this page saying that their own content got a DMCA takedown, their OWN content and you are wagging the "it must be rules" stick.
I am aware things get removed when they break the rules, I have read them.
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@krad3434 You seem to have misread or misunderstood what I have written because you have gotten it completely wrong. If you read back on my posts here you will see that I have explained exactly why OF content is being taken down. Creators are embedding it with a "digital fingerprint" that is identified instantly by bots that are searching for copyrighted content and a takedown request is sent out instantly. Perhaps you have confused what I have written with something somebody else wrote.
I was just trying to explain to you that there are multiple reasons why content is removed from the site, not just DMCA takedown requests because you seemed to be under the impression that that is the only reason why torrents are deleted and you didn't understand the torrent moderation process. I wasn't just talking about OF torrents, but all torrents in general, and I never made any assertion about the reasons why they are deleted.
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@lololulu19 Yes... The new post can be found here
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