Vanishing torrents ...
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I know it has already been discussed but I saw this in action today. Someone free-leeched an OF torrent that was shared a few months ago and it was taken down after a few hours. I still think a blanket notice has been issued. Anything uploaded prior to the issue of the takedown notice is safe unless someone free-leech it. so sad!
That being said, how long do you guys let a torrent sit if there are unfinished files?? I think the OP for Dalton Cody has given up seeding and I'm stuck at 95.3%
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Why do freeleeches seem bit by this, especially?
As seed points accumulate I like to "give back" by freeleeching things out for the community. Always picking things with
- years of prior existence
- no underage
- not a duplicate torrent (though as we know, different uploaders may package a file across varying collections)
- no banned studio / always a studio commonly found on the site
Next day, the thing I freeleeched out for people has vanished. Yesterday's good search no longer finds it. Not always...but more than once. & more recently.
Wtf? Am I the last to understand that freeleeching it out is a kiss of death / makes it a special target? & why would it?
Also it would sure be less mysterious if, instead of vanishing, the deactivated torrent stayed visible in a state like "Deactivated, reason xyz".
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@blablarg18 Sadly no normal members have all the answers.
We're just kind of watching it happen and all have our theories.
Unfortunately due to the nature of the site and these being (legitimate or not) DMCA claims we aren't really allowed in the "discussion". We just see the effects it has.
The freeleech being targeted is interesting and weird for sure.
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I'll add a little correction. it's not exactly the freelech - ing torrents that are targeted. If something from years ago is just freeleeching it's safe.
It's the BUMPED up torrents that receive the death sentence. You know the ones that now have the recycle icon next to their names, appear on front page and have the original upload date underneath them.
The sad ironic thing is the bumping up and freeleeching happens when there is usually lack of content. there is lack of content because like 70% of all uploads are deleted now. But once the old torrent are bumped up to the front they are also deleted.
So in this rate the website will delete everything by the next year if this doesn't stop. Only mediocre chaturbate videos will remain and all the good uploaders will leave. -
@forthepaul Fair viewpoint...... but just fyi.... yesterday i literally freeleeched an old, NOT bumped-up torrent....one that happened to be old & that's all, nothing else special about it....and this morning it was deleted.
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This gets stranger and stranger...
I recently freeleeched an old torrent that I uploaded a long time ago--it was dead, and I thought it was a good one, so I wanted to give it some new life.
It was not promoted to the top of the search list with a recycle icon, which I thought was SOP for freeleech torrents...and I was concerned that it wouldn't have any visibility. Nevertheless, very soon quite a few users found it and successfully downloaded it. And, it hasn't been deleted...so freeleeching is not always the kiss of death.
I am reminded of what Nobel winning physicist Richard Feynman once said: "The Universe is not as strange as we imagine; it's stranger than we can imagine."
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@eobox91103 yes. I had a freeleech-out last week, where it was fine / didn't end up deleted.
To me, it seems to happen to about 1/3 of both my freeleech-outs and freeleeches that i download.
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Even when it comes to the massive deletions of torrents, its not ALL new ones, just usually the top of the list for a few for a hours a day. Sometimes freeleech torrents that are bumped to the top get caught up in it all.
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@krad3434 Sounding like the key to this thing is Hall Monitor syndrome....some a self-appointed censor or two going "Oh I don't want that torrent to be popular - I'll DMCA it." Abusing the power.
Or??
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@blablarg18 said in Vanishing torrents ...:
Hall Monitor syndrome......... a self-appointed censor or two
This could explain some of it. There are some "activists" around who like to impose their preferences on others. (The "one star rating troll" comes to mind.)
There are probably many pieces to the DMCA takedown/vanishing torrent puzzle, and as users we're pretty much left to speculate on our own, perhaps discovering patterns here and there. The owner/operators of the site quite understandably can't/won't comment on this, for everyone's protection.
While it's disappointing to see things go away, there's still lots of good stuff to be found. If one searches for torrents tagged "Bareback," the search engine maxes out at 20,000. Even something specialised like oral sex with hairy guys:
gets 151 hits for active torrents.Some clever searching will turn up a wealth of material to keep our internet connections frying like bacon.
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@eobox91103 said in Vanishing torrents ...:
some "activists" around who like to impose their preferences
Since you bring it up, I'll cite a few examples I've seen.
Remember it's "this should be OK" type of freeleeches, vanishing.
- one was Island Studs, 3 happy naked guys out shooting a rifle
- another was amateur video, alpha-faggot fucking, top is verbal & uses f-word
- farther back in time, one was that early Cadinot juvie-school movie (you know which)
We can debate if people's erotic preferences are valid but....
Karen the Censor narrowing things for us, MORE than legally required, taking away the debate, is plain vandalism. -
@blablarg18 said in Vanishing torrents ...:
Karen the Censor narrowing things for us, MORE than legally required, taking away the debate, is plain vandalism.
I totally agree. What I'm puzzled about is how Karens can cause a takedown--presumably that is only done in response to the copyright owner or their authorised agent. We'll probably never know the real story here.
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Whoever is uploading single OF scenes and giving it stupid names like "Beefy stud fucks again" need to stop! I am sick of begging people in the comment section to ID the guys in the videos.
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@eobox91103 ok I can't see a pattern.
Among those that vanished today:
- American BBC orgy bareback
- Hot hypno videos
- Horny Hung Straight Passenger Fucks Rideshare Driver
This morning they happened to be on the main page, ie. recent & popular.
None of them struck me as "studio porn" or especially copyrighted / defended.
I opened their tabs, got called away, came back hours later, they had vanished.
Whose torrents benefit, by staying up, when other torrents are disappeared?
Is hypothetical Censor Karen protecting a particular uploader or porn studio, by killing the competition - killing anything else that grabs people's attention?
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@dilemmax said in Vanishing torrents ...:
Whoever is uploading single OF scenes and giving it stupid names like "Beefy stud fucks again" need to stop! I am sick of begging people in the comment section to ID the guys in the videos.
People aren't going to put MORE effort into uploads that get deleted lol. This is about as good as it'll get sadly unless this ends.
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@blablarg18 said in Vanishing torrents ...:
@eobox91103 ok I can't see a pattern.
Among those that vanished today:
- American BBC orgy bareback
- Hot hypno videos
- Horny Hung Straight Passenger Fucks Rideshare Driver
This morning they happened to be on the main page, ie. recent & popular.
None of them struck me as "studio porn" or especially copyrighted / defended.
I opened their tabs, got called away, came back hours later, they had vanished.
Whose torrents benefit, by staying up, when other torrents are disappeared?
Is hypothetical Censor Karen protecting a particular uploader or porn studio, by killing the competition - killing anything else that grabs people's attention?
There's hasn't been a pattern this time which is why everyone has been thrown off and suspicious its just a random member.
The freeleeches getting removed gave it away that they are just trimming off the top every few hours.
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@blablarg18 The creators of Hot hypo videos are pretty quick with takedowns. It's been like that for the last 2-3 years.
I'm pretty sure the first and last torrents are OF videos so I'm not surprised they are gone.
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R Rotron referenced this topic on
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Okay so did you guys get the timing right on when the Karen thing usually happens?
I posted a completed series three days ago. It didn't last an hour and got DMCA'd. I posted it around 17:00 GMT. A day after, the same title got uploaded by another user but at a lower resolution and I'm glad that post stayed on and still there as of today. It was posted at around 19:00 GMT. The timing seems to be too random and I think this happens ones your post gets seen on the the very 1st page (Top 50) of newly uploaded torrents.
So if I post mine again, I know that there is a possibility that this might happen again and I get locked out for 90 days? Since most of you guys know what I have been posting and they are from different languages. Is it okay for me to title them on their native language and put the English translation on the description or then before the 7 days grace period to edit torrent post expires I edit them to reflect the English title. Can you guys give me your thoughts on this if this is just a waste of time to do.
Also, how do does web crawlers work? Do they take a look at the torrent scheenshots, title only, or descriptions also and comments too? All text, everything?
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@Rotron I have to back out here. My general suggestion is folks keep observing & reporting until there is a pattern.
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