Vanishing torrents ...

massafera

@krad3434 the thing is, porn sites are getting less and less popular. The future of gay porn will be content from fan sites. Actually, it already is the new reality. Content creators are more popular already than a lot of websites.

If gaytorrent doesn't do something to fix this, I think this site will "die" in a few years if admins don't do something about this. People will start to migrate somewhere else because this just isn't working.

Which is a shame because I do like this site a lot. Have been here for over a decade,

krad3434

@massafera
The porn sites are in a weird state, a lot of OF creators who stick to the SW profession eventually just move onto work with studios then eventually rentmen if they keep up with it once studios stop hiring them, unless they make their own studio or w.e.

Studios are mostly either in the giant conglomerate owned by M*ndgeek or niche and able to stay afloat with subscriptions and selling other products etc.

OF itself is teetering based on how Twitter ends up. So much fansite promotion is done through twitter that can't currently happen on ANY other social media site that it'll be interesting to see where this all goes. It doesn't help that it seems OF is hitting a saturation point. Some creators are hot but simply have shitty content lol, and try to nickle and dime for it with PPVs onto of subs and continued sub bonuses.

As for this site. I can't speak much to how things will go. Gay torrenting sites are scarce, especially compared to any other type of torrenting site lol. This is still one of the largest and most updated even with the ridiculous take downs.

We'll have to see whats done and whether or not this will be a one of or an annual end of year experience.

djsoapbubble

@Rotron Hahahaha! OF is not bad per se, but as I said before if that camera ain't movin', my ass ain't interested, lol!

djsoapbubble

@krad3434 Yep. Uploading and being willing to share with the universe for my horny mates ain't easy. I'll take the screenshots myself to give peeps "an understanding" of what the video quality is like. No, I ain't going on some other website and then uploading beau·coos of professional pictures for the torrent I'm willing to share. What I do not like (that I'm powerless over unless I really want to get tacky with watermarks) is that these members either download it or upload it here as if people are stupid. Then again, members here do not "do their homework" if that makes any sense as I do appreciate other members who call out a duplicate. Hell, I do. I don't play. No ma'am, no sir. Nuh-uh.

And I DO NOT like Gay-Top.Net. Taking other people's torrents on here and then slathering their shitty ass watermarks as if they have "legal rights" to something. OMG. I really don't want to get started with this major dweeb. Or toad. God damn.

krad3434

I'm curious if the free leeches being taken down is also hurting peoples chances to grow their ratio without seedboxes.

Grabbing freeleeches, even ones I had no interest in was how I had a decent ratio when I first started. Studio videos were like 1 gig or so, so it never hurt TOO much to grab.

Grabbing an OF you really want can easily be 10gb to like 120gb+ depending on the creator. I hadn't really considered that too much before.

eobox91103

@krad3434 One way to help a ratio is to download a new torrent and then select only a few (maybe 10% by volume) of the files to actually be downloaded to your computer. (This is easy to do with uTorrent by unticking boxes; it's probably similar with other clients.)

This way you'll be among the first to get that material, and then be a "source" for other downloaders who are likely trying to grab all the files. It also increases the probability that you'll be left with something playable if the torrent is taken down quickly.

The only disadvantage to this strategy is that a torrent for which you haven't downloaded all the files will still take up one of your download slots, even if you have all the stuff that you selected. After the initial surge of people downloading from that torrent, you might want to delete it if you have a small number of allowable slots.

dilemmax

@eobox91103 This is my strategy with large torrents. This is why OPs should continue seeding even after the torrent is reported.

krad3434

My ratio is fine, currently I actually would like the files uploaded but unless someone actually does something about the reports its pointless lmao.

Like I can't fathom who can have the rights to enough files to get rid of the following at the same time minutes ago: 3 separate OF creators (2 managed to finish because they were under 10 gigs, one hasn't even been removed, the 3rd was 36 and was taken down in about 10 minutes), a black porn actor who has worked for like several of the studios in the torrent including ancient f*ckermate ones that didn't even come in 1080 and a half rip of a defunct site from like 2012 lol.

Estebanquito

So this is the end of the site??

2econdspark

It's painfully obvious that they are using crawlers to find onlyfans torrents and report them as DCMA.

I'm almost certain that they have users on the site that programmatically check new torrents for OF content and then immediately issue a DCMA.

They could even be as sophisticated as to parse the image files and use a program to look for the OnlyFans watermark in the bottom left of the photo.

I'm going to try a few different uploads and see which ones stick.

In the meantime - please consider getting an invitation to gay-torrents.org and uploading your OnlyFans rips to that torrent site as well. They don't seem to be issuing DCMAs over there.

2econdspark

If all of this is true - what's stopping us from uploading torrents with a publicly available photo from a performers IG or twitter. Wouldn't that deture the bots?

krad3434

@2econdspark said in Vanishing torrents ...:

Ive actually been purposefully not mentioning the other sites so they dont have to go through this crap lol. I'm highly suspicious its a member. Even crawlers can't identify some of the files that are removed because now things that aren't just fansite uploads are being removed, and just as quickly.

That sites already way less active upload-wise, it couldn't possibly survive whatever is going on here.

And based on the take downs I've seen its not scanning the images because some people have simply just taken twitter profile images and not screenshots from OF videos and still gotten removed in minutes.

And that doesn't even speak to all of the non-OF videos that are also being removed at random due to being bumped to the top.

djsoapbubble

@krad3434 Yeah, I haven't uploaded anything for the past two and a half weeks. Logged in right now and have received two notifications. I believe they were both Raging Stallion. Oh, well. I'm not donating to this site if they don't get a handle on this.

therock07

@Estebanquito said in Vanishing torrents ...:

So this is the end of the site??

This has happened before and it will happen again, but it should eventually pass just asin the past. When? Who knows? Could be days, weeks, maybe even a month or more. Just have to be patient.

therock07

@therock07

For those curious, I've done a little digging in Google's Transparency Report (https://transparencyreport.google.com), same as I did last year during similar circumstances. Some highlights:

This domain
(https://transparencyreport.google.com/copyright/domains/gaytor.rent)

As you might have expected, the number of requests have skyrocketed recently, reaching an all-time high last month (25k+). However, this isn't the first time this year that a very high number of requests has occurred: March and July featured similar peaks. Between these peaks, the number of requests substantially dropped to relatively stable levels. However, note that the more recent valleys still featured 3-5x more removal requests than in previous years. Clearly, takedowns are up both in general as well as during peak removal periods.

The most recent datapoint is Nov 24th. Nothing for December thus far, but it will be interesting to see what the next datapoint reveals.

The big 2 copyright reporting owners
MG Premium Ltd.
https://transparencyreport.google.com/copyright/reporters/141552

Paper Street Media, LLC
https://transparencyreport.google.com/copyright/owners/26249

The big 3 reporting organizations:
MG Premium Ltd.
They've always been one of the biggest takedown reporting organizations, but their most recent datapoint reflects by far the highest # of takedowns they've ever processed.

Takedown Piracy LLC
https://transparencyreport.google.com/copyright/reporters/1620
Relative to its history, takedowns are on the lower side.

xTakedowns
https://transparencyreport.google.com/copyright/reporters/17607
Relative to its history, takedowns are on the lower side.

Onlyfans
https://transparencyreport.google.com/copyright/owners/279096

Interestingly, OnlyFans no longer seems to be making requests itself, which had been the case through the end of 2021. Since then, that figure has been nil. Why? Well, by far the highest reporting organization through that period of time was DMCA Force, which made its last request on Dec 22th 2021. Back then, the final significant peak of OnlyFans takedown requests occurred on November 15th 2021, followed by a sharp downturn in requests. This would seem to align with the wave of DMCA takedowns on this site which peaked, then abruptly disappeared toward the end of last year.

Finally, scanning through some of the recent requests on an individual basis:

MG Premium Ltd. seems to process requests Monday through Thursday while taking the remaining days of the week off.
Gamma Entertainment through DCMA Force does its big batch weekly on Sundays.
Takedown Piracy LLC does its big batch weekly on Mondays.

Rotron

@therock07 Intriguing and very informative. I did not know this was possible to do. Thank you very much. Data really enlighten things. You could work as an economist. I hope we could have more data like this.

dilemmax

@therock07 wow. thanks for that. I learn a lot when people post in-depth analysis like this.

Looks like Chris Damned does a lot of takedown requests.

krad3434

@therock07 Thanks for the data.

I'm guessing a lot of the reporting is offloaded to other companies. I think the days are inconsistent because a bunch of files were just removed and its Friday.

I imagine most of their work is for streaming sites, so its fascinating this one is targeted so much.

eobox91103

To borrow a line from The King and I, Is a puzzlement.

I got a notice yesterday that a torrent I posted was taken down...but I built that torrent by taking three "parts" of a story that were downloaded through three separate torrents, and then merging them into a single file as it was much better to view that way. (I gave credit to the three other torrents.)

Those other three torrents are still live on the system, which is a good thing. But it's very strange.

Jetope

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